What have you noticed on your rewatch?
Like many (most? all?) I have rewatched the the game. For me it has been twice over the weekend and I am sure I will watch it a few more times this week.
What have you noticed on your rewatch that you didn't notice watching live (or in person if you were there)?
Fun thing: CJ (I think) was knocked down on Loveland TD pass. He got up and signaled TD while the ball was still in the air.
Football thing: On the MS TD breakup it is amazing how far he came to make that play. He was positioned on the left side of the defense and must have made up 20 yards to make that play. I'm not so sure it was even his guy.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:00 AM ^
There's a reason Seth & Brian hate when Klatt covers our games. He does UFR analysis in real time so Seth/Brian have to try really hard to come up with something he missed lol
November 28th, 2022 at 11:26 AM ^
Klatt is the best color guy in football imo, college or pro. That said, while I agree with him on many things, he's been wrong on several fronts as well.
He was pushing midseason on about JJ not being able to throw and connect deep balls, true. But also didn't acknowledge most big ten teams took the death by slow torture refusing to bring up the safeties. As well as Michigan was content to deliver the slow torture, Corum and Edwards 4-20yd carries at a time all the way down field. This is difficult for a QB to get into a rhythm and the same for WR's and TE's when they are smashing the db's every play blocking to then get off the los and run a great route without established timing. JMO.
The only rec that is off sync right now big is Andrel and not sure what's going on there but he is out of sync. I hope he gets it back too cause he can also be a down field weapon not to mention a big physical rec when he needs to be.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:20 AM ^
My friend and I kept mentioning this live: we thought Klatt was high af. He’s usually really good but I thought he was awful this game; he was incensed about things that I thought were 50/50 calls such as UM deferring, bleeding clock at the end of the half to ensure OSU doesn’t get a possession, some of OSU’s punt decisions, etc.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:41 AM ^
Klatt was correct on all of the things you mentioned.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^
Why was he right by questioning the decision to defer to the second half? At the beginning of the game Klatt made it seem like a terrible idea, which it wasn't.
November 28th, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
Maybe you and your friend were the ones who were high “af”.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:24 AM ^
It's Johnson that's more of the problem. "THEY SAID HE COULDN'T THROW THE DEEP BALL!"
My man, YOU have called half a dozen Michigan games this year. Who is "they"???
November 28th, 2022 at 9:28 AM ^
The ones who called the other half dozen?
November 28th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^
Who is “they”? Is this your first visit to a message board?
November 28th, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^
"They" could very well be us MGoBlog posters, lol
He called it like it is, JJ was like 33% on deep balls going into this game
November 28th, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^
On my rewatch, I wanted to track this. Stroud started out 12/14 and the first drive was certainly scripted (hence the high tempo). I suspect they took 5 minutes of each practice and ran those ~10-15 plays over and over again.
But after that..... very pedestrian 19/34
When I was watching the first time, I was hoping this was a case of a team (OSU) coming out full of emotion and a scripted drive, but as the game settled in, the better team (MICHIGAN) took control.
My rewatch pretty much confirmed this. CJ first TD was huge to deflate the emotion (kudos to Klatt for pointing this out) and settle the game down. To me that was the biggest play of the game. It was 3rd and long, OSU blitzed and it took our 5 star athletic QB to throw a dart some 25-30 yards in the air, on target to give CJ an opportunity and CJ making a play.
JJ relaxed from there, gave Michigan real life and energy and deflated the energy from the OSU crowd. Their game plan was predicated on the principle that JJ couldn't beat them and he just did that. Couple that with the very next offensive play where he connects with CJ AGAIN and now OSU is stuck with a game plan that isn't working....
Any other result and we are punting back to OSU all charged up with the emotions leading 10-3 halfway through the 2nd quarter.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:37 AM ^
Another thing I noticed is that after OSU scored its second touchdown half way through the second, they scored one (ONE!!!) fg over their final 7 drives. That's insane.
We got very lucky that the intentional grounding was not a pick six. That would have turned the game into 14-3 or 14-0, and would have totally changed the complexion of the game.
Conversely, OSU got very lucky we didn't block their botched fake punt. That, however, would not have changed much.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:39 AM ^
CJ first TD was huge to deflate the emotion (kudos to Klatt for pointing this out) and settle the game down. To me that was the biggest play of the game.
Agreed, that is probably the biggest play of the game. Imagine if it failed and we had to punt it back to OSU there? It could have been a Buckeye deluge that we could not recover from.
Instead it flipped the entire game. Ohio State was stunned.
If you told me that you were going to take away one of our big plays in the game, but that I could pick a play that was off-limits . . . that is the play I would protect.
November 28th, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
JJ getting that throw off against his body to a long put under huge pressure on a dime was off the charts.
And what a play by CJ.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^
Totally agree about Robbins. He was roughed and the refs called it a running-into-the-kicker penalty instead (vs. Nebraska).
I hope he can heal up for the Conference Title game.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:07 AM ^
Michigan keeps winning.
Don Brown's Ghost showed up for OSU.
JJ isn't a game manager like I thought.
Minter is an amazing DC.
Sainristil is incredible.
Donovan Edwards is the crown jewel of dynamic personality and talent.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:35 AM ^
Don Brown died? Damn...
November 28th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^
November 28th, 2022 at 9:08 AM ^
Agreed about the MS play. There have been some phenomenal M defensive back plays over the years in big games. Certainly the Woodson interception against MSU is one of the highlights. This one is comparable even though it wasn't an interception. It was a highlight for the ages and will be forever remembered. It saved a touchdown and cost OSU important points at a pivotal time of the game. MS had other great plays during the game as well. Cannot believe he came in as a wide receiver.
Also, the offensive line play. Those Edwards touchdowns were things of beauty when you rewatch the action The holes opened by the right side of the line would have allowed anyone a free path to the end zone. The fact that the runner was Edwards meant that he chose the correct hole and couldn't be caught.
One more thing: the OSU-centric BS handed out by the Fox announcers was unconscionable and never corrected as the game continued, especially in the second half. You had the idea that Michigan's superiority wasn't due to its own play or OSU mistakes but merely one-offs.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:25 AM ^
All of these guys play both sides of the ball growing up, but I agree Sainristil should have been converted to DL. He would be the smallest bestest DL ever,
It is the announcer’s job to make the game interesting, as if that needs to happen around here. I am convinced that after having Gus & Klatt all year, that the complaining means nothing.
November 28th, 2022 at 12:14 PM ^
On that first run, Edwards broke through the line, sized up the DB's angle then engaged the next gear! His acceleration from that point was incredible!
November 28th, 2022 at 9:09 AM ^
How open our receivers were and how Will Johnson shut his man down.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:09 AM ^
It looked as if there’s were huge holes for Stokes on a couple runs if he had seen them and cut back. Corum takes both of those for long gains.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:14 AM ^
On the one he slipped else he probably had 10-15 yards
November 28th, 2022 at 9:10 AM ^
I noticed Day melting down and berating his staff and players on the sidelines constantly… total opposite to how Jim and staff conduct themselves … my take was that CJ wanted a penalty throwing his hands up then he kept them up in the TD signal lol
November 28th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^
I think you're right! I will check it out.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:05 AM ^
I recall some fans lamenting that Jim ‘doesn’t seem right’ in the season following “the spot”. They thought he lacked fire, he wasn’t as vocal when they felt we were shafted by a call. Rumor was he was on some medication, maybe he had CTE, maybe the game passed him by?
Or maybe he channeled that hate/anger/frustration and started planning for this day, quietly, as Hartline would say, “in the dark”.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:11 AM ^
I posted this in the MGoPodcast thread, it's relevant here too:
It's time to acknowledge for the record: Our secondary can cover.
Turner, Johnson, and Green are lockdown corners; Moore, Moten, and Paige are excellent in bracketing elite receivers and keeping them in the yard; and Sainristil is a nickel that's worth (stopping) a dime.
And they are all fast, sure tacklers.
They are a hard lock to pick, especially in the red zone.
I rewatched the red zone play where Stroud threw his first pick. He had all freaking day. But . . . he had nowhere to go. Every OSU receiver was well bracketed and the throwing lanes were all occupied by a Michigan defender.
He finally had to give up and run, and we saw why he's not a runner. He gets tackled from behind and heaves up the grenade-lob pick.
I thought we were in trouble this year against OSU because we did not have Hutch and Ojabo and we showed no signs of being able to get pressure without them. What I did not factor in was how good our secondary has become in coverage. It buys us the extra time that Hutch and Ojabo didn't need.
Even the relatively few OSU completions to All-World Harrison were well-defended.
That's a defense that is going to work against TCU or USC.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:37 AM ^
Agreed, coverage has been excellent. It is interesting, because it seemed for much of the year like it might be our achilles heel, with so many jump balls chunking us.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:19 AM ^
The thing about those jump balls is that they were almost always well-covered. They just happened anyway. They never seemed like they could be sustainable. (And they weren't.)
Harrison had a couple of those too, but like the rest of the year, they were not sustainable even with Harrison.
November 28th, 2022 at 12:13 PM ^
Agree about the secondary and blanketed coverage. It isn't as flashy at QB pressures and sacks from 2021. But what a job to limit CJ in a completely different way.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:14 AM ^
Purdue is an under rated football team and has nothing to lose.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:44 AM ^
I mean...they have a B1G Championship to lose.
November 28th, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^
Not really m…everyone expects a blow out. And it should be. As Indiana and Illinois also should have been.
I’m sure the bright lights will have our attention but I’m always a bit paranoid.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:05 AM ^
They run the same offense as Ohio State but with worse players. And they have no defense. I was more worried about Iowa last year than I am about Purdue this year.
Only 3 weeks ago, Iowa stuffed them in a trash can to the tune of 24-3 ON THE ROAD. And our team is way better than Iowa while doing similar things.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:14 AM ^
Does anyone know what Stover did to get the second unsportsmanlike conduct penalty? I believe it was on a punt. Gus and Joel and the TV cameras never covered it?
November 28th, 2022 at 9:19 AM ^
I looked specifically for it and could not find it. Simply not shown.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:27 AM ^
Maybe someone at the stadium saw it and can comment?
Gus kind of gave a glance during the "booth transition" that it might have been egregious. I can't remember ever seeing an entire broadcast crew completely ignoring an "unsportsmanlike penalty"
You could hear the sideline yelling, on the broadcast, in the background late at the end of the play.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:22 AM ^
Nobody seems to know. Even the 11 Warriors guys were asking this question.
All we know for certain is that it had to be stupid.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:31 AM ^
Nope. I haven't seen a thing about it. Fox cut straight to a video feed of Gus and Joel talking and completely glossed over it and didn't show a replay.
Was also frustrated they just didn't say a word about the Stroud fumble that they called forward progress even though he wasn't held up at all. Terrible call and I'm jut glad Stroud threw a pick the next play and that it was a blowout so didn't even matter.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:32 AM ^
To me that was a play where the ref blew his whistle too soon and he just covered his butt by refining his call stating that Stroud's forward progress was stopped. This is mainly because as it certainly appeared the we were about to pick it up for a scoop and score, by the book they can't award us the ball.
Bad officiating but fortunately it didn't impact the game, being up 22 we could just wave it off and move forward. Had we been down a score and REALLY needed that TO....Oh boy every tinfoil hat would have been coming out of the wood work....
November 28th, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^
I don't necessarily disagree. The QB protection is so over the top now that I've seen worse get called forward progress but it's still frustrating because it absolutely is not the spirit of the rule.
Plus even if they blow the whistle dead if he would have called down by contact instead of forward progress we could at least be correctly given the ball on the recovery spot.
November 28th, 2022 at 4:27 PM ^
That guy is my least favorite buckeye this season…just a tool.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:14 AM ^
That people who have been whining about our style of offense, receivers, passing game, have no idea what they're talking about and don't see the big picture. M's ability to force your safeties up to stop the run game can not be understated.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:23 AM ^
I love the Buckeyes / Knowles defensive schemes. Perfect to slow down a Big 12 offense. Don’t change a thing.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:32 AM ^
Knowles was puzzling hire. The Big 12 doesn't have an offense that is comparable to Michigan's style of play. He's seen plenty of passing spread with tempo, but that's not the way most B1G teams play. Pair that with OSU's underperforming front 4 and the pavings will continue.
November 28th, 2022 at 9:58 AM ^
2121 - exactly. That’s much of the reason why I love what Knowles brought in. “4-2-5” is all I’m thinking - and, I love that they are implementing that.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:19 AM ^
I thought the big plays in the passing game were pretty important actually.
November 28th, 2022 at 10:22 AM ^
Why were they so open and why did the uptempo passing team only score 3 2nd half points?
November 28th, 2022 at 11:54 AM ^
Isn’t it obvious? They wanted to make sure you had ammunition to tout your superior fandom. What could be more important today than dissing fellow Michigan fans?