way OT: curing allergies with hookworms?

Submitted by Rodriguesqe on

Anyone know any one/ try this themselves? For those who don't know, its apparently a bit of a rage that hookworm infections can lead to allergy immunity.

If your like me nice weather is synonymous with dry itchy eyes and sneazing. Allergy medications have lead to migraines in the past for me, so I'm very interested in doing this even though it sounds rather icky. 

Curious if anyone is in the know. Especially curous about MgoHealthcareprofessionals.

LSAClassOf2000

March 8th, 2016 at 7:52 PM ^

Wait, I thought that you were supposed to use cauliflower for that, and that you were suppose to tape it to the face of an agitated cat before applying it to the dog. If I was wrong, I have rather a lot of explaining to do to the cats because they've been good sports about it until now. I guess I'll get some hookworms at lunch tomorrow and see where it goes.

Tacopants

March 8th, 2016 at 7:28 PM ^

No licensed medical professional is going to recommend that getting an intestinal parisite is a good idea.

You should ask your doctor. If he says yes, fire and report your doctor and get a new one.

mgoblueben

March 8th, 2016 at 8:25 PM ^

I thought I'd share my opinion on the matter since you think it's a complete farce.  The immune response that causes allergies is similar to fighting a parasitic infections (Both TH2 cell response leading to IgE release, allergy is a memory like response to an allergen that releases IgE in huge amounts to sensitized Mast cells).  In laymans terms, by making the body focus on a chronic parasite infection, the immune system doesn't get as caught up worrying about minor allergens.  Now if you have anaphylactic reactions it wont do much of anything to help you.  But by keeping the immune system busy with a parasite you can avoid developing allergies.  There is a lot of evidence that allergies are a first world problem.  Looking at the correlation with chronic parasite infections and allergies in endemic populations, this theory is gaining a lot of steam in the medical community.  Allergies are almost non existant in these regions.  And despite what many think, the most common parasites are pretty benign.  Obviously having a tapeworm is not good as well as giardia, trypanosomas/chagas/sleeping sickness, schistosome, etc.  But if they could ideally do enough research to finding a happy medium, it is definitely plausible. Ancylostoma duodenale and Necator Americanus aka Helminths are relatively benign and nearly a billion people are infected. Same theory is used for Acute Dermatitis which is often referred to as a suburban illness related to allergies and is often rare in endemic communities with parasites.  So I guess you can fire me now...

TJFB

March 8th, 2016 at 9:09 PM ^

I have spent my professional career working on immunology in the Bay Area, and I logged in to post something very similar to this. There is a very large body of work that has demonstrated a negative correlation between parasitic infections and succeptability to not only allergies but other diseases of the immune system such as IBD (inflammatory bowel disease not in before delete). I'm not saying that I would eat hookworms to treat my allergies (luckily I don't have allergies) but the OP isn't crazy for asking this question.

Rodriguesqe

March 8th, 2016 at 9:15 PM ^

Thanks TJFB and mgoblueben.

I know a doctor cant prescribe this, but would you expect an honest opinion or just a "no, don't do that"?

UMChick77

March 8th, 2016 at 9:19 PM ^

So if it can keep the immune system "busy", in theory it could benefit those with autoimmune disorders? Let's say for instance Hashimato's thyroiditis? (Some speculate that is an allergic reaction in itself anyway)

umrinkydink

March 8th, 2016 at 10:47 PM ^

The allergy/parasite response is the body's immediate defenses just going into overdrive (the mast cell/IgE response that was mentioned earlier), resulting in more acute symptoms, while most autoimmune disorders are different types of hypersensitivity that are slowly and more chronic, utilizing the immune system in a different way.

Wiki has a chart for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersensitivity

Allergies are Type I hypersensitivities; Hashimoto's is a Type IV.

Everyone Murders

March 8th, 2016 at 7:36 PM ^

Have you considered bloodletting?  It cured George Washington of his sore throat.  As a matter of fact, after his last treatment, he never suffered from a single earthly ailment again.

FauxMo

March 8th, 2016 at 7:40 PM ^

Theodoric of York: What's wrong with your friend here? Hunchback: He broke his legs. Drunkard: I was at the festival of the vernal equinox, and I guess I had a little too much mead and I darted out in front of an oxcart. It all happened so fast. They couldn't stop in time. Theodoric of York: Well, you'll feel a lot better after a good bleeding. Drunkard: But I'm bleeding already! Theodoric of York: Say, who's the barber here?

jabberwock

March 8th, 2016 at 7:40 PM ^

the average trial dose is 10 worms.
That 10 worms that you feel bore through the arm patch into your skin, then they travel through your circulatory system, through the heart and lungs, down your throat and eventually into your intestines.

Where they hook on & start syphoning your blood.

They may "turn down" the volume of your hyperactive immune system thats causing your allergies, but you have to remember they are simultaneously making you more suseptable to other diseases.

If you've gpt $4000 & a plane ticket to Mexico what the hell, GO FOR IT!

Wolfman

March 8th, 2016 at 8:15 PM ^

I've found they have a lot of other shit down here, almost all natural as well, that appear to be quite effective in minimizing the things that bother us in the states. Not introduced to it until my third winter down here, but growing in popularity is Mezcal. You either like it or you don't, but my son really likes it as do most others that hang out at the  "younger bars" in town.

I have been fortunate in the six years I have been coming down. One scorpion bite and one case of salmonella. The scorpion bite just took a shot in the ass as a safety measure. I don't think the natives even bother with it. The salmonella, on the other hand, took about a week. Doctor provided an antibiotic too weak and after about 4 days, already in a weakend state, symptons began to reappear. Another trip to the clinic, stronger shot and much stronger antibiotics. Keeps your energy level down for quite awhile, but based on some of the stories I've heard, I have been quite fortunate. But a lot of gringo, Canadian influence in this particular area, so standards are much higher.  

CarrIsMyHomeboy

March 8th, 2016 at 7:43 PM ^

Sometimes--especially when it comes to "quick fix" medicine--the internet can be so fucking inhumane. I don't fault the guy for believing this. I fault the pusher. There's nearly zero chance the original author of this idea actually believed the BS he was typing. And even if he knew, stupidity is not an excuse for those with influence.

dearbornpeds

March 8th, 2016 at 7:43 PM ^

The first person to try this actually went to a village in Africa and walked barefoot knowing he would become infected. He became sick due to the infestation but when he recovered, his asthma and allergies were much improved. He (or someone else) tried to make a business of this by selling infected fecal material. The business was shut down by the FDA.
There is a legitimate research lab in England trying to study this question. The underlying theory is that a parasitic infestation will cause the immune system to direct Immunoglobulin E (IgE) against the parasite as opposed to triggering allergic reactions.