Washington and Oregon to Join the Big Ten
Looks like we finally have confirmation that they'll be joining in 2024. My understanding is that McMurphy has been a pretty solid source on realignment.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/oregon-washington-join-big-ten-leave-pac-12
August 4th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^
Man, the will they/won't they has been all over the map the last few days.
Last I checked the board about an hour or two ago, the post said "Pac-? Still Has a Pulse."
Guess someone pulled the plug and smothered with a pillow since then.
Authorities looking for a man in a black turtleneck and hat, believed to be a B1G official:
I posted it. What happened was there was a meeting this morning pushing for all the schools to sign the Grand of rights, but the Big Ten came back at the 11th hour with a new offer for Oregon and Washington. The pac ? schools really tried to save the conference.
The Big10 has to think about more than sharing revenue today. With schools like Stanford, N.D., BYU, Miami, Fl. State, Ga. Tech, UNC, Duke, Baylor, Syracuse, Kansas, Clemson, Ok. State, Virginia, BC, and Arizona, they could have the cream of the crop, enjoy total legitimacy and never have to play an SEC school ever again.
With the teams I mentioned, you could totally lock up college football and basketball and be on TV from September to April almost exclusively. recruits would want to go to a Big10 school and compete with the best. That's what it's about.
The next media deal would be crazy lucrative for everyone because no conference would have a better roster of schools with brand quality, and eyes from coast to coast and from top to bottom. The Big10 has to be thinking about the long term benefits (20, 30, 50 years from now and not just about sharing what's on the table today. It's about the future and insuring your own relevance for the next 100 years.
This is just the beginning. This thing will swell to 24, 28, and probably 32 schools. I think it's good they get this over with now, so the dust can settle. Perhaps the Big10 will lead in bringing enforcement to blatantly egregious recruiting violations that the NCAA won't for the SEC.
But the NCAA has cracked down plenty hard on OSU, Penn st, USC, and Michigan.... oh never mind.
Like the Big Ten, Hyman Roth always makes money for his partners.
Right, just ask him. He’ll tell you. Also, he’d give 4 million bucks just to be able to take a piss without it hurting.
I'm on board with "Really Big". Don't have to change it when more teams join.
Big10
Great Lakes division (UM, OSU, Ill, Wisky, Northwestern, MSU, Indiana, Purdue, Penn St or Minnesota?)
National division (The rest)
Fresh Coast
West Coast
BiggyB1g
“Who had it reversed back? Snip, snap! Snip, snap! Snip, snap! I did! You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person!”
I guess we can kiss that Texas home and home goodbye
August 4th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^
Holy sh** that was quick (if true)!
(edit @1:03) Looks to be true, both The Athletic and ESPN'S Pete Thamel also reporting it.
AP News: Big Ten has cleared the way for Oregon and Washington to apply for membership
(... AP sources say)
Since my son wants to go to UW, I'm happier than a car full of Husky puppies.
Tailgates for Michigan games are going to be epic.
It's a great stadium and a great place to be on a Saturday in the fall. I was there the last time we played, and in fact blew a game in enormous fashion to wormy Rick Neuheisel. We were about to go up 16-7 with a chip-shot FG in the 3rd qt, because of course Lloyd was playing for FG's. It was blocked, bounced perfectly up to Washington's fastest player and it was 13-14 instead. Then a play or two later a screen pass from Navarre was mishandled by the RB and he popped up and out to a DB just standing there, and suddenly, in like 1 game minute, what was supposed to be 16-7 was 13-21. We almost clawed our way back, but didn't have enough.
Worse than that, actually: 10 minutes to go in the game, the FG would have put us up two scores on a day where Washington gained a total of 268 yards of offense. Making that FG probably clinches the game.
We don't think as much about that game because it happened on September 8, 2001.
Band of Brothers premiered on September 9th, 2001. Then Tuesday, September 11th, 2001 happened.
22 years later and it still hurts.
August 4th, 2023 at 11:50 PM ^
I flew from Washington to LA on the 10th-11th red eye after my weekend in Seattle. I slept in and didn’t find out about 9/11 until that night.
I was the drunk one in Pioneer Square that night (though I was also at the game).
So what if the barfly in camouflage pants and sunglasses said she normally doesn't date a guy like me? I had enough liquid courage to prove otherwise.
And I feel badly about this behavior, but my friend and saved ourselves 20 min of line-waiting by walking out of the bar and into a cab in 2.4 seconds. I didn't realize there was a line until the cabbie smiled and whirred away. Please accept this as my confession as I have tried to pay forward happiness and harmony since.
Oh! Contact me fall 2024 for the games in Eugene and Seattle! Now I live PNW!
August 4th, 2023 at 12:54 PM ^
So our 2024 schedule is pointless again right?
August 4th, 2023 at 12:56 PM ^
It's got to be, yeah
Which is why I never understood the obsession with protected rivalries... Obviously more teams were going to join the B1G, it was just a question of when. So don't try to make the permanent perfect schedule, make something that works for the next few years then reevaluate.
That is what they did though. They only made a 2 year schedule.
Well, U-M will play OSU & MSU.
But everyone else? Back to drawing lots, I guess.
Michigan's 2024 schedule:
Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, PSU, OSU, Wisconsin, Iowa, MSU
Ohio State's 2024 schedule: Indiana, Illinois, Rutgers, Minnesota, Purdue, Maryland, MSU, UCLA, Michigan
This is setting up nicely for the B1G going to two, tiered divisions...and the conference champion will come from the "Elite" division. And please get rid of the protected rivalries.
A conference of Michigan, OSU, PSU, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin, Iowa and MSU would be a good place to start. What a scintillating TV schedule!!! MSU's 0-9 in-conference record would be very satisfying. Use a relegation system to swap the two best and worst teams from the divisions for the next year.
I said this before and now it applies in force, but let's just reconfigure the divisions to Cornfields and Coastlines (the four pac12 schools, Maryland, Rutgers, and Wiscy and NW wse campuses are literally on the shores of lakes)
@Washington, @Oregon, @USC, @UCLA, PSU, @OSU, Wisconsin, Iowa, MSU
probably.
Close but I think OSU doesn’t play UCLA and has Rutgers twice
Okay, cool, don't hook 'em.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
August 4th, 2023 at 12:55 PM ^
Unpopular take: I really hope their reduced payouts are temporary. I think it’s really awkward to have multiple tiers of membership
August 4th, 2023 at 12:56 PM ^
I can't imagine they wouldn't be. Even Rutgers and Maryland eventually reach full payouts.
It's the same kind of deal that Maryland and Rutgers got. It'll escalate to eventual full revenue.
Of course they are. They wouldn't join for a permanently reduced share.
I haven’t seen anything confirming or denying that, but if you have, please do let me know. I’m skeptical because if they aren’t additive enough right now to warrant full shares, I don’t know why they would be in the future. And in that case, I’m not sure why the Big Ten would have added them
If you want to avoid what just happened to the Pac-12, and the Big 12 before it, you don't create a permanent financial disadvantage for some of your schools.
I hope so to, I'm not in favor of tiered membership. Most likely the reduced payout is temporary until the next TV negotiations or near to. I can't imagine a scenario where Indiana is getting paid 2-3 times what Washington or Oregon would get.
It's temporary but they will be allowed to borrow against future earnings until they reach a full share.
They will probably have to work something out to escalate their shares until the next TV is negotiated to account for the extra schools/more eyeballs.
My understanding is they will be lower until the next tv deal is negotiated.
the payouts they will be getting are higher than either the PAC or BigXII could offer regardless.
If you think payout tiers are bad, wait until you see scheduling. Illinois, MSU, Minnesota, Rutgers, Purdue, etc. will have to play late games on the west coast while Michigan, OSU, and PSU get the nicely scheduled afternoon games against our left coast newcomers.
Ohio State will play @USC for a 330 EST kickoff, and Michigan will play @USC for a 10pm EST kickoff just wait.
The only thing for sure next year is we will travel to USC and Osu will have USC at home. Book that 100%.