Vote in college football on not stopping the clock anymore after a 1st down
Except in the last 2 minutes of the halfs:
Leaving it in the last 2 minutes keeps the increased chances of last minute scores.
I hate it. IIRC, when the NFL (the king of making money) wanted to get games closer to 3 hrs, they shortened timeouts (one 30 second timeout) and shortened halftime. They didn’t eliminate plays.
I don’t like the impact to stats due to the loss of plays/game. We won’t be able to compare individual or game stats going forward. Season stats are already out the window due to the ever changing number of games.
Not stopping the clock after first downs is only going to shorten the game by 8 minutes. This is based on their research. Fuck this.
How many less plays per game do you think Michigan will run? Maybe 4-6 maybe? What a shame.
The studies have estimated that this will eliminate 7-8 total plays per game. The game clock starts anyway (typically with 28-34 seconds on the play clock after the ball is spotted), so running an extra 6-12 seconds per 1st down for 56 game minutes equates to 7.x less plays per game, on a cumulative game average.
They're saying they're doing it in the name of safety, pointing to the fact that two teams could theoretically play up to 17 games starting in '24, with both a conference championship game and without a playoff bye/advancing in the CFP.
I'm just concerned with not only diluting the product more (game ratio decreases in relation to constant commercial ratio), but to me more importantly is the increased variance of a game with 5-10% less plays. For a bruising running team (aka Michigan, especially vs nonconference cupcakes) there will be an even more pronounced game reduction with long run-driven drives producing more first downs. This equates to less possessions. Michigan could score on long time-consuming, first down gobbling drives, but 1 fluke turnover and we've got a coin flip Army situation...extreme case, but absolutely tips towards more variance in outcomes as opposed to a stronger team wearing down a more well-rested, less-battered opponent in the 4th quarter of games.
The studies have estimated that this will eliminate 7-8 total plays per game. The game clock already starts anyway (typically with 28-34 seconds on the play clock after the ball is spotted), so running an extra 6-12 seconds per 1st down for 56 game minutes equates to 7.x less plays per game, on average.
They're saying they're doing it in the name of safety, pointing to the fact that two teams theoretically could play up to 17 games starting in '24, with conference championship and without a playoff bye.
I'm just concerned with not only diluting the product more (game ratio decreases in relation to constant commercial ratio), but to me more importantly is the increased variance of a game with 5-10% less plays. For a bruising running team (aka Michigan, especially vs nonconference cupcakes) there will be an even more pronounced game reduction with long run-driven drives producing more first downs. This equates to less possessions. Michigan could score on long time-consuming, first down gobbling drives, but 1 fluke turnover and we've got a coin flip Army situation...extreme case, but absolutely tips towards more variance in outcomes as opposed to a stronger team wearing down a more well-rested, less-battered opponent in the 4th quarter.
'We're making this change for your benefit." - The Elites.....End result - Zero benefit for the Masses,more $$$$ for the Elites.
Making a ticket have less entertainment value and giving people more of a reason to stay home.
Michigan will have drives that last an entire quarter plus if they do this.
Like many others have said, I’m not a fan of this either. It’s not the on field playing time that’s the problem. It’s not batters and pitchers getting an entire stretching workout in between each pitch. It’s the f’ing commercials.
Do you enjoy watching batters adjust their batting gloves 4-5 times per at bat?
I’m amazed anybody watches live sports with the ridiculous amount of commercials. I have been using a DVR since 2001 to skip them. I can’t imagine sitting through that many commercials.
But the commercials give me a chance to come on here and air my grievances.
We will see this year if it works! NFL games on fox are usually around 3:05 - 3:15 hours. I'd guess college games may reduce down to about 3:20 hours, which would be an improvement.
I hope they don't approve the incomplete pass rule. They can make it as close to the NFL as they want, just don't go past those rules.
If its implemented to decrease football it always, and I mean always, becomes a thing. They arent trying this out they are implementing it for good but giving us loud mouths a pacifier labeled “may not happen” to calm us.
A lot of people make up slippery slope topics that dont exist. This is one that very well exists. They will keep picking away at plays per game and increase commercial minutes per game until you suddenly look up and the clock is running on an incompletion. To watch the game get ruined by commercials and see rules put in place to take away plays per game is just beyond infuriating.
Honestly I love college football as it is. I love the games. There are smaller things if change but... Football Saturday's in the fall are one of my greatest joys. I don't need it to go faster
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Most folks here still mad about Illinois game, I see.
= less actual college football and more commercials. More money grubbing by NCAA.
Watching Army go on a 18 play TD drive that uses a quarter and a half of game time will be awesome!
This won’t change anything significantly. The media payouts will require commercials, and if there’s any thought about it - commercial time won’t be getting any shorter regardless of what they do.
And, who pays for this? You, me, and regular consumers. The costs for advertising find their way back into what we pay when we purchase the product - if it’s a refreshment, hotel, snack, insurance, etc…
I'm on board if they take 2 TV timeouts away at the same time. Shorter game means not as many TVTO.
I really hate any rules changes that arent for the entirety of the game . Either dont stop the clock for the whole game or leave it alone .
Personally i like the clock stoppages after first down for the college game .
I vote for 12 minute halftimes like the nfl
According to the SI article reporting on this proposal, the NCAA committee found that FBS games were 11 minutes longer than NFL games in 2022 on average (3:21 vs. 3:10). The difference in halftime lengths accounted for 8 minutes (20 minutes vs. 12 minutes). So other than halftime, FBS games were only 3 minutes longer than NFL games.
Now here's something that's hard to believe: From 2018-2020, televised games were only 2 minutes longer than non-televised games. It's the equivalent of just one 30-minute commercial per quarter. It's not clear what the comparison group was. Aren't all FBS games televised?
Here's the article: https://www.si.com/college/2023/02/20/college-football-shorter-game-rules.
The commercials have gotten way out of hand. I used to watch all kinds of games every weekend. Now it's usually just Michigan because that's about all I can handle.
Whatever, I hardly watch games live. I finish mowing my yard then turn on the game 45 minutes after it started. I usually catch up in the middle of the 4th quarter. Basketball to. I can watch a college basketball game in 45 minutes.
NCAA is so concerned about the length of the game that they are doing everything they can to shorten it EXCEPT for the quite obvious observation: The amount of commercials airing.
I understand that they want Ad revenue, but it’s getting to the point where we’re no longer watching the game and, instead, more advertising.
The logistics are not making sense and you can’t tell me they’re not already making money/revenue from advertising and elsewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if the game is, in total, two hours long and, with added commercials, 4 hours long. This is sickening has we’re getting deprived game time for Ads.
The best thing to happen to college FB is the BTN's "BIG Football in 60". It gives me half of my Saturday back. Other than the Michigan game and huge non-conference games that interest me, if there is a BIG game of interest, I just monitor the score on Saturday then wait to tape the 60 minute version and watch it during the week without the stupid commercial breaks.