Victors Club poster: Meyer to step down
A poster at Victors Club, DChapman12, who works in "risk management" -- the discipline of helping corporations and other large institutions through legal and PR crises -- says Urban Meyer is stepping down. Relevant quotes:
Outside Risk Management Firm on campus. Priority to protect the University. Going to take quick action to protect the University. Much bigger than football. Athletics department may see additional shake up. Gene Smith may be out as well. Expect to see quick action and PR from the University voicing a united message of intolerance.
When challenged by multiple posters as to his source, he responded:
Not connected to scoop in any significant way whatsoever. Just stumbled my way to it because of my circle involved. Any other situation outside of risk management work, I’m not a source nor do I have any sources. Hope that answers your question.
It's telling that OSU has not put out any press release thus far, nor as Urban Meyer or the OSU Athletic Department. They are all clearly going back and forth with each other, their comms people, their lawyers, and possibly this outside risk management firm to figure out how to respond.
There are several elements of the McMurphy report that are damning, aside from Urban lying at the Big Ten Media Day. (1) the fact that Smith was pressured by Meyer confidants to not press charges in 2009; (2) the fact that the 2015 incidents were common knowledge within the OSU community with no reaction; (3) the fact that Zach Smith, as Earle Bruce's grandson, likely received special treatment from Meyer and OSU. Ambitious reporters will be all over these elements of the story and possibly many others.
I get it but this is outside football for me.
If all is right in the universe we will never have the chance to beat him on the football field, and I'm ok with that.
I don't expect the C-Bus media to do any work so why not from internet posters?
ugh... part of me want him to resign based on moral reasons....
but... part of me want him to be around while coach harbaugh brings UM back to the glory days and it makes meyer to ask what his deal is.
just came across this also. "Rolling Stone article claims Urban Meyer might have covered up an Aaron Hernandez drive-by shooting"
Article from 2013. Nothing to see here. But does prove that nothing will come off the latest controversy. For once I'd like to be wrong please.
I didn't notice that, so thank you.
I actually would be a little sad to see Meyer get fired right now. In my opinion, Harbaugh finally has Michigan Football ready to compete with everyone, and I was looking forward to a potential 5-7 years of battle with a Meyer-led OSU team running on all cylinders.
^this
Fuck him, I want to beat his stupid ass.
It would only take 2 straight wins over OSU to put Meyer under the broiler.
I’d argue it just takes one. If there is one thing OSU doesn’t know how to handle, it would be losing to its rival. They literally wouldn’t know. It’s happened only twice in 17 years.
Columbus would get sent back to the Stone Age if we beat them this Fall.
I would love for Urban to step down. This is sick and totally what Ohio State represents. Everyone wants to bash Jim Harbaugh for not "winning" and bash him on how "weird" he is. You know what, I literally called his when Ohio state won the national title, that not too long from then, Ohio State will fall under another cover up violation.
I hope that school goes down in flames, and it is not because they are better than my beloved Michigan at football. It is because of the arrogance and cockiness of that fucking state as a whole. I hate everything Ohio, but most of all, I hate women abusing assholes names Zach Twitter Smith from Ohio.
I want him to stay for a year or two, get mired (meyered?) in controversy, lose badly to Michigan every year he is there and then be shown the door in disgrace.
No way. Not going to happen guys. You do realize what all went down when he was coaching at Florida, right?
OK then.
Right, but currently, in 2018, there is this huge #metoo movement going on. Things are much different in 2018 than the were in 2008.
I am aware of that.
Also, these are allegations. Where is the police report, the criminal police investigation, arrest record and formal charges?
I'm just not seeing it. Allegations to the media and allegations on social media are not the same as facts.
Can someone explain the difference between this and Izzy/Dantonio/MSU?
Is it that there here is more evidence that Urban knew? Is it that OSU is higher profile?
There's tangible evidence Urban knew + he lied at Big Ten Media Days
+ he was likely instructing others to pressure Courtney Smith into not pressing charges on multiple occasions
The president of MSU was forced to resign, so it's not like no one took the fall.
I thought that was due to Nasser.
Press conference at 3:45 to announce they have hired Bill Belichik.
it’s funny because it’s true. if not him, then saban
I don't know if you're joking about Saban, so I'll ask you anyway.
Why in the fuck would Saban coach OSU when he can continue ruling his empire (and NCAAF for that matter) in Alabama?
Hasn't Jim Tressel's show cause with the NCAA expired? They could hire him as an "interim" coach.
If this indeed is what unfolds, I am grealy conflicted. First, if allegations are true, he is the scum we think he is and deserves to be fired. Second, I would have to give props to ohio for treating the situation correctly, regardless of past transgressions. Lastly, as a lifelong Michigan fan, I would have much preferred it to see Urban's job come to an end at the hands of six straight beatdowns at the hands of The Team, The Team, The Team, led by Coach Harbaugh.
So Random anonymous poster at Victor's Club is the new Counter Strike?
What does he know about recruiting?
EXCLUSIVE: Longtime Urban Meyer assistant Zach Smith's ex-wife, Courtney Smith, opens up about reported domestic violence and what she believes Meyer knew. pic.twitter.com/dNWA9x2F4y
— Stadium (@WatchStadium) August 1, 2018
I gotta say, she's an awfully loyal woman to still keep his last name after he beat her up and she divorced him......
There are lots of reasons to keep a last name. Such as wanting to have the same last name as your two children. Don't be a prick.
Stadium TV is a fledgling (albeit well-backed) sports network that broadcasts some mid-major and FCS conferences. Getting that interview is a pretty big scoop for them, but also speaks to how the story has been covered by the larger sports media.
I believe Brett McMurphy (was part of the ESPN lay offs) will be working for Stadium, which is why she gave the interview to them.
not buying this is at all, but it’d sure be nice
Yep. Nope. Not buying it. No. Never. No way. NFW.
If this is true, and I am not ready to believe it, then there are far worse things that have yet to come out. I just can't see this being enough to take him down.
Although with how willing he was to step down at Florida to save face, I guess this could be true.
FWIW it was just announced that Meyer and Smith are now meeting. Lots of speculation as what will come out of that obviously.
Bribery ?
Oh man, Urban is about to fire Smith isn't he?
Gene Smith? If it is Gene Smith he is probably begging Urban not to fire him.
Which Smith? The Ex or the ex coach?
Either way, what possible reason for it other than, let’s get our stories straight....
Seriously, why are they meeting?
Which Smith? The Ex or the ex coach?
Either way, what possible reason for it other than, let’s get our stories straight....
Seriously, why are they meeting?
They are meeting to make sure they both tell the same lie to media questions.
Ah the school of Chris Carter, they are getting their story straight about Smith being the fall guy. Deny, deflect, then blame.
I would add that the Title IX issues are serious. The federal government has been extremely aggressive in pursuing violators of Title IX, and the higher ups at OSU will be acutely aware of the consequences for the university as a whole if they don't act decisively here.
...are the higher ups in ohio as incestuous with their athletic programs as those in East Lanstucky? (no offense to Kentucky)
I seem to remember various posters on here swearing that there's no way Dantonio will survive at MSU. Not only has he survived, it hasn't even significantly affected his reputation.
Hollis & Dantonio shredded a lot of documents, but he's definitely not out of the woods by any means.
He is not out of the woods, but he is laying in the weeds...
This is exactly the scenario that was played out in the sparty discussions. The lack of respekt sparty gets nationally plus their entire BoT protecting the knobs they slobber on is very different from a nationally prominent program like ohio, Michigan, et al. That said, I do believe there is a line of demarcation where an institution of prominence then gets a hall pass where a lesser institution will get the death penalty (see Penn St and SMU)