USMNT fails to qualify for Russia 2018

Submitted by MGoPoe on

Lose 2-1 to Trinidad & Tobago coupled with Honduras beating Mexico 3-2 and Panama beating Costa Rica 2-1 spells doom for the US.  2022 starts now!

denardogasm

October 10th, 2017 at 10:33 PM ^

Could say the same about the consistently shitty refereeing in football, or the cheating in college basketball, or the lack of defense in the NBA.  Typical closed-minded American bro thinking to believe 3 billion people all over the rest of the world are bitches for liking a "fake sport" more than American football.

jbrandimore

October 10th, 2017 at 10:56 PM ^

With some Mexican guys and a couple from Columbia. Even amongst themselves they thought it was a complete embarrassment, and there was a high percentage chance the game was fixed because Mexico never made an effort after they fell behind. You can bag on me all you want, but those were futbol guys saying that.

denardogasm

October 10th, 2017 at 10:25 PM ^

Maybe Michigan should start playing at Pioneer.  The quiet of playing in front of 400 trinidadians seemed to be very intimidating tonight.  How much time does Guzan have left?  Seems like he's been around as long as Howard and Howard played the worst game I've seen him play tonight.  Is there a young guy waiting in the wings?  Goalie has been the one consistent position my whole life dating back to Keller.

arrowhead

October 10th, 2017 at 10:25 PM ^

First, the international organization will miss much $$$ from the USA. Advertisers have to be pissed. Second, do what most of the nation does -- ask what the hell is a sport that you can't use your hands while wearing underwear?

Jay Leno once pointed out that with 11 million or so illegals who come across the borders why  can't someone find 11 who can play soccer. And why can't we find just one knockout QB?

 

mgoblue0970

October 11th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^

No.  We needed a fucking tie to move on.  

If one is expecting two other teams to lose or draw to back into the tourney, then you don't deserve to be there in the first place.

BJNavarre

October 10th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^

T&T was pretty clearly the better team tonight. Awful performance. Nobody on the team has any vision, except Pulisic and Dempsey (if he plays). Bradley was OK. Everyone was awful. Howard looks like a 60 year old man out there. No idea why he's still out there. 

Hopefully the crop of youngsters pan out for the 2022 Qatar debacle. Seems like with soccer gaining significant momentum, that's maybe not a complete pipe dream anymore.

AC1997

October 10th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^

While I won't argue that having more top Euro players would help, I don't think the MLS excuse is as big of a deal as many say. I actually think that the MLS is responsible for many of the smaller countries making huge improvement in recent years. It is hard to understand how this team looked like a Juggernaut three days ago and a club team tonight. Add to that the constant flipping and stalling plus the phantom goal by Panama and I think we all could use a break from international soccer.

garde

October 11th, 2017 at 8:30 AM ^

The MLS is hurting the USMNT because of its style of play. Players are not comfortable playing with the ball at their feet in tight spaces and the tactics are elementary. You could see Pulisic shaking his head a few times in recent games when some idiot like Omar Gonzalez decided to smash the ball 30 yards down pitch hoping someone might get a head on it rather than giving the ball to a wide open Pulisic 15 feet away.

The USMNT should not be starting more than 2 MLS players in any signifcant match if they want to compete.

But this issue starts with youth development. Kids in the US are thrown a ball at their hands...kids from other countries have the ball thrown at their feet. They are more comfortable with it. I used to live in Italy and a buddy's brother played on a youth AC MIlan team..these kids were like 8-10 years old. They had far better technique and understanding of the game than high school players in the US. Why? Because of coaching and development of skills. They aren;t tossed on a huge field to play when they are young..they primarily play five a side from a very young age, but more importantly are drilled in skill exercises and tactics. Games aren't important at that age in football/soccer..developing ball skills are. And developing ball skills with your feet is much harder than using your hands with a mit, shooting or throwing a ball. Touch and comfort with the ball is SO crucial. School kids in the US aren't juggling or playing alley soccer games at lunch. They are shooting hoops or tossing around a football...kids from around the world in soccer nations are messing around with the ball at their feet becoming more comfortable with it every day. By the time they are 10, US players are already a few years behind. By the time they are 17, they are WAY behind.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 10th, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^

Man, I wish I was as good as Arena at forgetting things that just happened an hour ago.

Earlier tonight I figured Arena would coach the team through the WC and then step aside, or be steered aside, for a more long-term guy.  Now I hope he never coaches so much as another USMNT practice.

Yeoman

October 11th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^

In context, it's much worse. It starts with "Nothing has to change."

Actually, no. It starts with "There's nothing wrong with what we're doing. Certainly as our league grows, it advances the national team program."

There it is, the federation's priorities in a nutshell. Arena's in charge because he's on board with it.

Wolverine4545

October 10th, 2017 at 11:02 PM ^

This is absolutely absurd. The fact a country of our size and resources, not to mention fascination with sports, cannot qualify for the biggest tournament in the world is downright embarrassing.

They need to take a hard look starting at the top. Why did we fire Bradley again? Can anyone tell me this? A country of 330k qualifies and the US is watching from the couch.

Unbelievable

AnthonyThomas

October 10th, 2017 at 11:11 PM ^

Half of the current roster peaked five years ago, which is unacceptable in a country of 300+ million.

I mean, fucking Iceland, a country with a population half that of Detroit, qualified in Europe. CONCACAF should not be very hard!

socalwolverine1

October 10th, 2017 at 11:14 PM ^

Those of us who watch a ton of international soccer know that the US is not a good quality team. Just look around European leagues and see how many Americans are stars on the world stage. Answer: you can count them on one finger (Pulisic), let alone one hand. The fact is, Team USA is a middling team in the worst qualifying group (CONCACAF) in the World Cup. The question remains why we can't field a top five team given the tens of millions of American kids who grew up playing the sport.

BursleyBaitsBus

October 10th, 2017 at 11:18 PM ^

Psst... Starts with M, ends with S. 

 

MLS has become developing grounds for players from Central America instead of the US these days. 

 

Gotta get our talent to Europe and KEEP THEM THERE (looks at Bradley) 

Yeoman

October 11th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^

But that hardly affects your point; what a contrast to the current roster.

  • Howard/Everton
  • Spector/West Ham
  • Bocanegra/Rennes
  • Bradley/Mönchengladbach
  • Onyewu/Milan
  • Cherundelo/Hannover
  • Beasley/Glasgow Rangers
  • Dempsey/Fulham
  • Gomez/Puebla
  • Donovan/Everton
  • Holden/Bolton
  • Bornstein/Chivas USA
  • Clark/Frankfurt
  • Buddle/LA Galaxy
  • DeMerit/Watford
  • Torres/Pachuca
  • Altidore/Hull City
  • Guzan/Aston Villa
  • Edu/Glasgow Rangers
  • Findley/Real Salt Lake
  • Goodson/Start
  • Feilhaber/Aarhus
  • Hahnemann/Wolverhampton

The People's Jones

October 10th, 2017 at 11:14 PM ^

ITT: people wondering why a country with 4 other professional sports leagues that are the best in the world can't come up with soccer players