Update on Legends Numbers: not completely gone
Just read this over at the great MVictors site.
- Nothing is official, but U-M is indeed evaluating the Legends program and considering changes.
- The evaluation is being driven, in part, by feedback from the players.
- McCready’s understanding is that they do intend to maintain the Legends distinction, but are considering honoring those players in a different way.
- All options are on the table including a presence in the stadium to recognize the Legends.
- Hackett is soliciting input from the Legends/families and has already connected with one other Legend/family. Hackett will be talking with all the Legends families and keeping everyone in the loop as this moves forward.
- Timeline is TBD, but McCready’s understanding is that they plan to settle this before the season starts.
I say do something with the blank canvas that is the box. Put national championship years and the Legends numbers up there and be done with it.
I agree, I dislike the patches. I don't understand why the numbers can't be returned to circulation...there are way too many players on a team to restrict them, and I don't think it's really disrespectful to those that are already retired to be reissued. I also dislike any special designation attached to them: if a guard wears #98, fine by me. The only "special" jersey to me should be the #1, because of the tradition that has at a specific position.
March 30th, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^
I don't get the hysteria around this. Wear them or don't. It won't diminish the players who made them great.
2 is the only jersey that shouldn't be worn.
Why only #2? We've had two other Heisman winners.
March 30th, 2015 at 10:41 PM ^
Lets put helmet stickers above the suite boxes. MOAR clutter!!!
I know I'm in the minority on the helmet stickers because like the big house, the helmets are epic on their own without clutter. I know people won't back me up on the stickers but I would think many would feel the same about the big house.
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Yes, please no more clutter. They're football players NOT 4 year olds with a sticker book. "Good job wittle guy, you get a special sticker!!!" Just play the damn game and enjoy the best helmets in the land and the best stadium. Honor the legendary players somehow, but not by cluttering up things that dont need no more clutter ya hear!?!?
I agree completely. The press boxes look great blank and I don't need it looking like Penn State or some nonsense. That ring of champions thing has all the info you want just outside the stadium.
I will also back you up on the helmet stickers, not a fan. But I'd rather have helmet stickers than crap on the press boxes.
Patches are the way of the future. If a player with a legends patch become a legend we can just add a double patch or a patch on top of the other patch. We could also add patches to the helmets along with the stickers. Maybe add some numbers and a patch or two on the pants and we'd be good to go! Maybe the players can wear special eye patches as well!
Doesn't the NCAA have a rule about changing numbers for one game? Or maybe it is OK if you give the other team enough notice. It seems to me that a couple of years ago Florida changed the number on one of their stars so that the other team couldn't find him.
I think the numbers should be issued the same way other numbers are, no changes just for good play. A highly rated freshman could be issued a legends number. After a while it may even be a recruiting tool (We think you are good enough to wear number 11). But I would still have a patch on the jersey, just not so obtrusive as the current ones. I also think that the numbers should stay within the position group, more or less. The Wisterts were number 11 and we all know they played the line, but they also played defense, so 11 could go to a defensive lineman, included an DE. Nothing strange about that.
Harmon was a single wing tailback, so 98 dould go to an H-back, a tailback or a quarterback, or even a slot receiver.
Before they started un-retiring jerseys. #1 goes to a great receiver. #2 goes to a great cornerback. Forget all the rest of it.
Oh, and get off my lawn.
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I'm fine with the legends numbers, but not every season "just because." As someone else noted, a player should earn and want it. The fact that Funchess had a different number all three seasons was ridiculous.
I like the patches, always have.
But really like your idea as well - that looks great.
Since my hexadecimal solution is gaining no traction, let me try three digit numbers. The NFL already does this with their officials. Instead of having numbers go from 1 to 99, go from 1 to 199. In business, if your solution was to identify 105 players using 100 numbers, you'd get laughed out of the room. It's only because of history and tradition (not bad things) that we keep trying to shoehorn 105 players into 95 (because of retired numbers) numbers. Linemen can easily fit another number on their uniforms, especially if it's a slim "1". Are the Yankees laughed at because they put numbers on their uniforms way back in the day? Heck no. Is the Michigan football team laughed at because they put wings and stripes on our helmets? Definitely not. So let's be leaders and best and drag college football into a future of 3 digit numbers. Just think of all the great numbers we can retire with the extra numbers now available. #7 goes to Rick Leach and #41 goes to Rob Lytle. Some stud QB comes in and he wants the #7? Think how cool he'll look rocking the #107. OK, maybe not.
The problem with the legends jerseys is that Brandon made way too many of them. It should be 3-4 max with Woodson, Howard, and Harmon etc. It's just confusing when 11 people are wearing these numbers. Now that they're out there you can't take them away without pissing a lot of people off.
I'd put up 11 national championships, 915 wins, 3 heismans etc. on top of the press box. It's looks a lot better to recruits and players that way instead of seeing all these years from a really long time ago.
just wondering
How about every other week?
you're sticking with this weekly idea, are you?
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Impressive work in gussying up that blank canvas
I don't advocate the idea of cluttering up the stadium grounds with statues or the pressbox with a ring of honor, etc. Those are all rather generic approaches to honoring players that we see in stadiums--both pro and college--around the country.
That was the smart thing about the who Legends jerseys concept. It was unique to Michigan, easy to execute and it re-introduced a small set of numbers (#11, #47, #48, #87, #98) back onto the field that had been gone for decades.
If having a patch on the uniform or giving the top players in a position group certain numbers is causing a fuss with the current team or the fans, then keep it simple. Let the retired numbers stay on the field, remove the patches or any other visibile.distinguishing markings on them and go from there. If a player wants to ask for a number change to a legends jersey, then let him do it. Funchess went from #87 to #1, and although it's not one of the legends numbers, there is a legacy about the best WR getting that number. Funchess asked the coaching staff about it, etc., and he wore it last season.
Conversely, if a player doesn't want to switch, then that's okay as well. If you're the leading TE at Michigan and you wear #88 (as Jake Butt does now) and you don't want Kramer's old #87, then fine.
It'll be interesting to see how and when Michigan honors Charles Woodson once he retires from the NFL. The other two UM Heisman winners had Legends jerseys, but that honor may or may not be bestowed upon Woodson. That's not to say he won't be recognized, but it won't be in quite the same manner as Harmon or Howard were either.
with retired numbers or championship years or any other such stuff. A zillion other stadia do the same thing. Looks tacky and has been done to death.
I'm OK with legends numbers or patches, but use them just once a year at homecoming.
If TPTB insist on something more permanent, put bronze plaques on the walls of the end zones, or on the plaza outside the stadium and inside the gates.
Or just re-retire the numbers.
/end rant
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I'll be ecstatic as long as those patches are off the jerseys.
Personally I would like to see all of the numbers restored without restriction. I still would like to see the players whose numbers were retired honored, maybe like the monument park in Yankee Stadium. To further honor the players I like the idea of having the names on the boxes. Post the names, years played and maybe include the number, Lambeau Field comes to mind.
I don't think the patches are needed and I think anyone who wants a "legend" number should get it, if it is not already in use. Those young men should already know who wore the jersey prior and the history that goes with it. I don't want to see players changing their numbers for one game or anything like that. I have never been a big fan of retiring a number, there are many ways to honor a great player without doing so.
March 30th, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^
March 30th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^
To me, the monolithic blue is classy, impossing, and statement-making No advertising, no self-promoting, no Halo. Pure wow factor. Putting writing/numbers/years/graphics on them will soon make Michigan Stadium look like every other junked up venue. Except for the piped in rawk muzik, Michigan Stadium is not like every other junked-up stadium. Just MHO.
I like the active approach to honoring the legends. Designate a couple of the big home games each year as a "legends game' honoring one legend in particular. Have the current player at that position wear the legends number for that game only. Have the legend on the cover of the program with a history inside. Invite the legend and/or his family as honored guests with a small halftime ceremony. Have a giveaway for the first couple thousand kids in the gates featuring the legend on a ball or mug or pennant or something similar.
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