November 23rd, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
He gone.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Nice almost knowing ya, Xavier!
Of course, if Cade keeps doing what he did Saturday.....
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:51 PM ^
Of course, if Cade keeps doing what he did Saturday.....
The staff won't let that happen.
November 23rd, 2020 at 5:17 PM ^
Sigh, he had such a chance to be the only speed in nonexistent space.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
He gone.
edit: it happens to the best of us
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
Awww, shit. Here we go...
November 23rd, 2020 at 5:44 PM ^
Is there a tweet or a link? Is it true?
Alabama currently has three WR commits all ranked in the top ten ahead of Worthy.
November 23rd, 2020 at 6:53 PM ^
Crap ! I went to an Alabama board and they're confirming it. Why can't we have nice things ?
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
Players visit other schools when they're committed. It's not great, but it also doesn't mean he's gone
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
If you're speaking in technical terms, yes. This is a temporal issue.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:42 PM ^
Or decide:
Win vs Start
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
We lost against Wisconsin and had good recruiting news. Beat Rutgers and get bad news.
Just debating merits of hiring/firing coaches based on recruiting in a pandemic.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
I would be questioning how competent these coaches are given how difficult a time they had finding out that their backup QB could execute their offense while their starter flailed.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:53 PM ^
I can give them a pass on naming Milton the starter before the season. He has a lot of qualities you can't teach. I don't think his flaws would have been that obvious until you saw him in live game action.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:58 PM ^
ha, you said "give them a pass." you must be new here.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:30 PM ^
I don't get the joke. Until like three weeks ago, >90% of the users here (myself included) made excuses for most of the problems Harbaugh has had.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:58 PM ^
I agree, and don't think he played too badly against UM and MSU. He missed deep throws wildly, but otherwise was okay. It went downhill, though, the last two games.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:10 PM ^
Definitely agree. I was always waiting until the Indiana and Wisconsin games to pass judgement. Both of those teams were going to be able to give him more pre-snap looks based on returning talent and scheme. Figured MSU would stay basic with limited practice time and coaching changes. I put the MSU game more on the o line than Milton.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:54 PM ^
Minnesota game was a bit of a tell in that 1) Minny regressed to norm, but we didn't know at the time and 2) Milton ran the basic offense really well, with a lot of short throws and some pretty decent intermediate, middle of field throws, but 3) Minny had no pressure or creativity to their defensive scheme.
At MSU, he started regressing in that his lack of consistency with intermediate to deep throws, yet still made a handful of really, truly beautiful NFL throws. Yet, the last two games he just seems to have lost his trust in his own eyes and those poor throws to short WRs and deep passes being way off just seems to have pushed him into a self doubt.
Milton regressed to norm because, for mental reasons, he cannot show consistent growth in-game. He should be conscious of the type of throw he has to make, but he just slings everything like Wildthing. Sometimes it is a thing of beauty to write ballads about, but most of the time he strikes out. I hope they can get him to trust fundamentals and practice the basics over and over until they get to be muscle memory, but I don't think it will happen this year.
November 23rd, 2020 at 5:40 PM ^
You say downhill as if there was some form of gradient downward. This felt much more like falling off a cliff.
November 24th, 2020 at 6:28 AM ^
So what exactly do you think coaches get paid to do? You give a lot of free passes.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:34 PM ^
You gotta remember that Milton was working against our secondary in practice. Rocky Lombardi looked like a Heisman candidate against them. Can't imagine how good Milton looked.
I also don't think any of us would have guessed that Cade would do better than Milton after that Minnesota game. We now know that they suck. We didn't know that before. And we didn't know that Milton would lose confidence so easy. But we knew he had a crazy work ethic and desire to learn. Just hasn't worked out for a variety of reasons. But I don't think it was as cut and dry as it looks now
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
I think Milton's biggest problem is his inability to see the entire field and then to deliver the appropriate ball to the appropriate spot. Some of those things are apparent in practice, some are not depending on the drills they are doing, especially if the defense in practice is sub-par. He presumably has the arm strength to get away with things versus Michigan's secondary, but so against a better secondary.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:05 PM ^
Because the decision was made based on them facing the Michigan defense. One looked like Elway; the other, Montana. At that point I don't blame them for picking the guy with the measurables.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:09 PM ^
This the ubiquitous mgo-overthinking it take. Suddenly Michigan's offensive coaches can't figure out how good their players are because their defense is so bad. Guess what, tons of teams have bad defenses and crank out elite offenses.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^
I think the simplest answer is the right one - Milton is a practice star and it didn’t translate to games.
November 23rd, 2020 at 5:09 PM ^
So Milton is the Joe Bolden to McNamara's Ben Gedeon.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:53 PM ^
Lloyd almost f'd it up with Brady. . . it's not unusual
November 23rd, 2020 at 7:00 PM ^
But Lloyd isn't the heralded "quarterback guru" like our current HC is suppose to be.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^
(In some kind of attempted Marvin Gaye voice)
Weeeeeee don't get to have nice things, no no no
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:33 PM ^
That's what happens when the program sucks.
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November 23rd, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
It's weird with the pandemic but guys visit schools even when they're committed and nothing much comes of it. And Bama has 3 WRs ranked higher than him already in their class; obviously you'll talk a top-100 guy if he's available but that's a crowded class already.
If he leaves good luck to him, but this recruiting cycle is so disjointed I try not to get too high or too low either way.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^
Losing a WR recruit isn't going to break this team or program. I'd be more concerned if he was a top-level OL or DL recruit.
November 23rd, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^
Absolutely. It would still suck just because I really think Worthy is a possible elite guy. I also wouldn't be shocked if we hear about guys taking more trips up to UM in the coming weeks as teams and staffs start shaking out.
November 23rd, 2020 at 2:22 PM ^
I'd be more concerned if it was a DT commit, oh wait, we don't fucking have one.
Oh well, at least last year we..... Oh wait, we didn't fucking get one last year.
November 23rd, 2020 at 5:03 PM ^
That's RR level recruiting failure. Dudek took over in 2017, we've had recruiting holes beginning in 2017 that should never happen at a school like Michigan. Guy needs to go... along with Harbaugh and the entire D staff.
November 24th, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
I can tell you from the outside people can’t stand Dudek. Recruits think he is annoying & parents think he is immature. Dudek spends half his day on social media taking shots at opponents, getting into twitter spats & pushing agendas like he is a political strategist.
A regional recruiting analyst said the players nicknamed Dudek, “Matty Bitch Tits.”
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
Is this for hockey?
November 23rd, 2020 at 4:58 PM ^
No. If this was hockey, I would not have clicked.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Not good Bob, hope he stays with his commitment to us.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
Since we are a basketball school, it's worth mentioning in this thread that a credible basketball insider at 247 now believes we may not be done in 2021. And I assume that if we take another, the only way we do so is if he's a high 4 or 5 star.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:09 PM ^
that guy's not very credible though...:)
November 23rd, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
So we’re trading Xavier Worthy for Jaden Hardy? I wouldn’t be mad at that.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^
I’m a huge Xavier Worthy guy, but Jaden Hardy would legit make us the best team in the country, assuming the rest of the class shows up.
November 23rd, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
Duke is gonna have 3 of the top 6, plus #16 in the 247 Composite. As usual, that probably puts them ahead of everyone else.
November 23rd, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^
There’s smoke that Baldwin might pick Milwaukee.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
It's Bama, the Harvard of College football education.
If you get the invite and acceptance letter, you at least need to visit. Just hoping he doesn't fall in love with their engineering program.
November 23rd, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
Not sure if it is the Harvard of College football education, but from what other recruits have told us it is at least the MIT of College football education as the Dean is one heck of a football guy!
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^
gone.