U-M Hockey vs NoDak - Friday NCAAT Open Thread

Submitted by I Bleed Maize N Blue on March 29th, 2024 at 7:10 PM

One appetizer down, two almost finished. Then it's time for the main course. FYS/WMU awaits the winner, winner, chicken dinner. Let us feast!

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griffinm9

March 29th, 2024 at 11:33 PM ^

When we sacrificed the basketball team to the sports gods, do you guys think we got enough credits for both a football and a hockey championship?

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rob f

March 30th, 2024 at 8:00 AM ^

Huh wut?

Assuming that's a typo and you're referring to the 1997 Michigan Football National Championship, there was nothing less complete or less definitive about that championship.  That '97 team had a helluva defense and an efficient-if-not-spectacular offense led by a QB who then went on to a pretty decent NFL career (and for good measure, a young guy on the bench who would go on to have a pretty darn good Michigan career, beat Bama, then become the NFL GOAT).

They faced a tougher non-conference schedule than the 2023 team, beat 4 top-10 and 7 top-25 teams along the way and got better as the season progressed. The final four-game stretch?  All against ranked teams and only one of those was at home (ohio state).  And this '97 team of ours finished the  season by winning the Rose 🌹 Bowl, a game that has for decades been a struggle for Michigan Football.

https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/schedule/1997

We. Met. Every. Challenge.

I have no doubt we'd have beaten Nebraska and silenced big mouth Scott Frost (and his mom) no matter where the game could have been played.

So f*** Scott Frost and his mom. As for all those anti-Michigan coaches who showed their asses by gifting a share to Osborne because they were to lazy and cheap to go shopping and spend a few$$$?

F*** them, too!

 

/end rant

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rob f

March 30th, 2024 at 2:17 PM ^

The '97 team climbed every mountain in front of them. They were the conquering heroes vs every foe.  I feel absolutely no need to disparage the accomplishments of either of those teams by declaring one did something less impressive than the other.

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crg

April 2nd, 2024 at 1:53 PM ^

Who said anything about "disparaging" their accomplishments?

What they did was outstanding.  My point is that what the 2023-2024 team did was even more so.

K2 is a massive and incredible mountain... but it is not Everest.

 

Also... anyone saying that a team who overcomes all challenges placed in front of them in a given season deserves a championship had better advocate just as strongly for teams like 2017 USF, 2010 TCU, 2009 & 2006 Boise State, 2008 & 2004 Utah, and numerous other teams that were shunted to the side despite overcoming every obstacle in their path.

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AlbanyBlue

March 30th, 2024 at 1:25 PM ^

Disagree on more complete/definitive. The only thing that makes it LOOK that way was a coaches' poll that was obvious bullshit and rigged to give Tom Osborne a lifetime achievement going-away present award. Everyone with a shred of intelligence knows that Nebraska would have lost to Missouri if not for an obvious kicked ball AND a phantom fifth down. Everyone with a shred of intelligence knows the coaches' poll was rigged. 

Take that bullshit away and Michigan is every bit the consensus champion they were in 2023. 

[EDITED to clarify -- On re-read, this post sounds aggressive toward CRG, and I didn't mean it that way. I just get fired up thinking about the "shared" title BS talk for 1997. My rant wasn't meant toward you -- just that situation in general.....]

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crg

April 2nd, 2024 at 1:58 PM ^

Agree about the bs on the Coaches Poll (and we all know what went on with that).

My point here is two-fold:

1)  There was at least some reasonable doubt that Michigan was "worthy" of the 1997 championship simply because there were two good, undefeated teams left standing.  A poorly designed system was not capable of resolving this problem.

2)  The 2023-2024 team was the only team left standing - in a year that put more challenges ahead of them than what the 1997 team had to face.

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griffinm9

March 29th, 2024 at 11:37 PM ^

Flash back to 1994 when Michigan beat Lake Superior four times and then played them in the tournament. Sparty has that now. IIRC, the Lakers won it all that year.

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