trueblueintexas

July 20th, 2020 at 3:12 AM ^

This will be really interesting, while dominant in their conference, and having some success having won at least one championship in football and basketball in the past 10-15 years, St. Thomas isn’t even really a D3 elite. Mount Union, Wisconsin-Whitewater, and Mary Hardin-Baylor have been far more dominant in football over that time. There are about 4-5 basketball programs consistently better. 
While the circumstances dictate the waver, there is a reason it takes so long to make this move. They could easily become the worst team in every sport they compete in for many years. I wonder how great their President will think this move is then. They will also need to make significant upgrades to their sports facilities and they don’t have a ton more room to do so. 
 

Tshimanga

July 22nd, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^

You're giving St. Thomas more credit than they deserve. St. Thomas has never won a D3 national title in football. They were runners up twice in 2012 and 2015. Both times losing to Mount Union by 14+ points. 

However, they have won two national titles in basketball in 2011 and 2016.  They were always the MIAC's traditional powerhouse in basketball. But you are correct, their prominence nationally in both sports has all been over the last decade. They do not have a long storied history and tradition of athletic dominance. 

Their football stadium is very much that of a D3 school. Theyre going to need a $25-$75 million renovation on that alone I would assume? 

I'm guessing they will also have to build a completely new basketball arena, I'm not sure you can renovate their tiny D3 gym into a D1 level arena?  Probably need some improvements for soccer and baseball facilities. Everything else should likely suffice. 

I would love to see St. Thomas become a D1 doormat for the next decade, especially in football. 

Quailman

July 20th, 2020 at 8:34 PM ^

No, the conference affiliations for St.Thomas were announced at the same time of the announcement of moving up to D1. They are right in the press release from St. Thomas that was linked in the other thread. The ESPN link he has in the O is from the same day as the official announcement and has the same info.

This is just WD trying to get upvotes for being "in the know", but forgetting that someone else posted it and he commented on it. 

Big Brown Jug

July 20th, 2020 at 11:28 AM ^

It was a little more complicated.  St. Thomas is a large, urban,  well-funded university with an enrollment about twice as large as the next biggest school in the MIAC.  Most of the other schools are small, outstate liberal arts colleges in small towns that have recruiting and resource disadvantages due to where they're located and how much they have to spend on sports.  

So it was definitely a competitive thing, but over the years St. Thomas also evolved into a culturally awkward fit in the MIAC.  

jg2112

July 20th, 2020 at 1:31 PM ^

With relevance to Michigan, from December 2010:

 

A University of St. Thomas graduate might have helped keep Brady Hoke from becoming the University of Minnesota football coach.

Ron Fowler, a 1966 St. Thomas grad who has been CEO of a large beverage distribution company, has pledged $5 million to the San Diego State athletic department, the first $1 million to be used on salaries for Hoke, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.

The Pioneer Press initially identified Hoke as the early target for the Gophers’ football coaching job.

“Frankly, I didn’t want it out, but I did this because I wanted to make sure Brady was going to be here and San Diego State wouldn’t be looking for another coach with a new president coming in,” Fowler told the San Diego newspaper. “It came down to: If not now, then I was going to have a lot of regret if Brady left. …The football program should be driving revenue. I have a chance to do something good. Let’s get it fixed.”