Shemy is on HARBAUGH, not Warde.

Submitted by MaizeBlueA2 on May 22nd, 2023 at 10:33 PM

Listen, enough. The sheep and the torch and pitchfork mob need to relax.

I fucking hate when I have to say this, but I'm going to say it. Sigh. "As someone who works in college athletics, reports directly to an AD, and has worked at 8-9+ different schools...solely in college athletics administration, I know WTF I'm talking about on this one."

Gross.

Moving on. One of my pet peeves is the mob mentality people have about the job of an athletic director, when most fans couldn't give you 3 lines of an ADs job description.

I'll start with the lede, this Shemy debacle is not on Warde. That hiring is solely on Harbaugh, his sport administrator, and UM HR (I don't know if UM Athletics handles its own HR or if they just post positions and manage interviews while central campus HR processes everything...different schools handle it differently).

Warde is responsible for the hires who report directly to him...that's head coaches and executive level admin. Like every other AD in the country, he's not involved in any other search.

I mentioned this in another thread, I've hired over 25 people in my career, I've had an AD be part of the search a grand total of TWO times. Both times were when I chaired the search for a new head coach. If I hired someone on my staff and they had Shemy's Twitter history, that's on ME and HR...the AD wouldn't have a clue what's going on. It's simply not their job.

Also, there is no way in HELL Warde is telling Jim who he can and can't hire in his program. Maybe if he tried to hire Art Briles as OC or something, but not no damn Asst. Director of Recruiting. Warde doesn't have time for that. Nor should he, that is not his job.

I wouldn't be shocked if Warde didn't even know about this hire until right before it happened. If Harbaugh has a position open, it's on him and his staff to fill it. Period.

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Now how does this happen? It's actually not that complicated. I bet $1 Shemy was hired like most Football staffers, as an "at-will" employee. These folks typically have contracts and they can be fired at any time.

With that said, they don't go through the same hiring process as your typical faculty or staff member would. Shemy wasn't applying on UMich.edu and going through a standard interview process led by HR. Football staffers never go through that process (compared to say, an Asst. Director of Marketing).

As a result, stuff like this can happen. Shemy's background check was a criminal one, I guarantee it. Once he passed that, it was done. There was no one checking his social media likes because it wasn't your typical hiring process. I doubt anyone checked Minter's or Patridge's or Denard's either.  It just doesn't happen within a football program (at least not before now).

It also makes it easier to fire an "at-will" employee...if he was a faculty or staff member, there would be a shitstorm about whether or not his likes actually broke any UM policies. If he was a professor, there is NO WAY he would be gone this quickly (or at all). Hell, if it was me...I'd still be there. They would have to go through notices, Legal Affairs probably has to get involved, it would've been a process. It would have never happened this quickly.

The fact that he's gone so quick tells me he was an "at-will" employee (unless Harbaugh just shamed him into resigning on his own, which I suppose is plausible, but based on the salaries these guys make...you can't run the risk of someone being like, "no - you will have to fire me").

Anyway, Warde is far from a perfect AD. When he was hired, I called him a B+. That's exactly what he's been. Nothing special, but definitelty above average. But Michigan just tied an all-time school record for championship teams. This year Michigan had four student-athletes who won the "Heisman" in their respective sport. Revenues are high. Warde Manuel is locked in.

I'm guessing Michigan adds to its HR staff and has someone who looks into this stuff going forward. This could've been an assistant coach on ANY team at Michigan, they're all at-will employees and they all get hired outside of the standard University hiring process that takes forever (you can't wait a month to hire an assistant coach because you're going through interviews, reference checks, background checks, etc. - and when you want to fire these folks, you don't want litigation, you want them gone...with or without cause). I'm not saying the position wasn't posted, I'm saying the hiring process is different. 

So blame Jim Harbaugh for this one, he's the one at the head of the table for hires within his program. Just like every other head football coach. 

...lol, I'll be damned if my ADs have spent a single second worrying about hires in our FB program that aren't head coach or coordinator related. I could only imagine Warde telling Jim who to hire into his program. That goes for every sport.

 

/endTEDTalk

Monkey House

May 23rd, 2023 at 6:32 AM ^

I know we live in a culture now that the mass isn't happy until someone is thrown into the sun but I don't care about this story anymore. It's over. 

slblue

May 23rd, 2023 at 6:54 AM ^

As another who has worked for decades with University administrators, and HR professionals, I can say with some certainty that each hiring scenario is relatively unique. There are norms and usual practices, to be sure, but involvement in hiring decisions varies.  As a result, I see very little value in generalizing in an effort to assign responsibility (blame or credit).  And yes, I realize that message boards like this exist in large part to allow those with limited information to opine on sports-related matters.  But on this one, I’ll respectfully take a pass. And I think that’s just fine.

CFraser

May 23rd, 2023 at 7:29 AM ^

The kids who grew up with social media are going to see a lot of this type of stuff in the future. I don’t have social media but if I did when I was a kid…hoo boy. I definitely have said idiotic things thinking it was funny or whatever - you know, dumb kid stuff.  But now it’s all recorded for eternity. Just waiting for your employer to mine. 

Booted Blue in PA

May 23rd, 2023 at 7:36 AM ^

I had a conversation with two of my nephews about this very topic, a decade ago.....   I warned them that shit posted on social media will exist forever.    As it turns out, the things that concerned me for them, bi weekly pics of drunken binges and the like, seem to be pretty much ignored or accepted.  

 

njvictor

May 23rd, 2023 at 8:06 AM ^

Jim made the hire, yes, but Warde as AD has to personally vet someone with the last name "SCHEMBECHLER" given the magnitude of that name in regards to the program right now. If there wasn't a pattern of inaction and incompetency by Warde, then I'd agree, but at some point the buck stops at the top

S.G. Rice

May 23rd, 2023 at 8:26 AM ^

Stop it, nobody is telling me I'm wrong when there is a chance to BREAK OUT THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS AND RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!  FIRE WARDE!  FIRE HARBAUGH!  FIRE SHEMY AGAIN!  FIRE EVERYONE!

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kyeblue

May 23rd, 2023 at 8:51 AM ^

Jim Harbaugh is Warde's most expensive and most valuable employee, by a wide margin. And Jim Harbaugh is not a mystery and everyone knows his vulnerability and Warde has to know better. It is part of Warde's job to not letting Jim Harbaugh walk into trouble absent-mindedly or unwittingly, no matter how stupid this sounds. Nobody says that Warde should personally vest everyone Harbaugh hires but he should've had a process in place.  

goblue2121

May 23rd, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^

It's not that big of deal and all of this is getting way too much attention. Twitter is a clown show and getting worked up about likes means you have way too much time on your hands. 

ChuckieWoodson

May 23rd, 2023 at 9:28 AM ^

Hindsight is always 20/20.  Nobody goes into a hiring expecting this to happen and it's certainly an exception and not the norm.  Enough of the bullshit finger pointing.  Shit happens.  They handled it and now it's over.  Can't wait for the next novel from a poster who has to share his feelings on the matter. 

Red is Blue

May 23rd, 2023 at 9:50 AM ^

Could very well be different in Academia and College athletics.  But everyone we hire starts off on a probationary period.  Ie, everyone is "at will" for their first 6 months.  This allows for being able to more easily dismiss them if new information comes to light about the hiree.  Like information that would have prevented us from hiring them if it had become known earlier.

KRK

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^

The only part I take with issue with is making a huge assumption that Warde didn't know a guy with the last name Schembechler was being hired to work at UM. I can't believe someone didn't run that by him before, or immediately after the hire. I agree with the fact that Harbaugh has some culpability, maybe more than people are giving him, but to say that this would never be on Warde's radar, nor should it be, is a stretch.

trueblueintexas

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:55 AM ^

I can't believe someone didn't run that by him before, or immediately after the hire.

Given what happened, I'm guessing it was immediately after. Harbaugh hired the guy. It made it's way up to Warde. At that point, the general public and media had already done the digging. If Harbaugh hadn't already made the choice himself, someone in the org let Harbaugh know it would be in the school's best interest to fire the guy. 

BTB grad

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^

Sam on WTKA mentioned many reached out to him as the story broke who said they’ve known about Shemy’s views for years (Ira said he had to unfollow him on FB years ago because of the extreme things he was posting) and that it was an open secret and not a surprise.  Just the smallest amount of digging around and the football program could’ve avoided this mess.

denardogasm

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:26 AM ^

But does there really need to be ANY blame?? It was a mistake, they owned it, they fired him immediately when they found out.  It's not like he was an addict who beat his wife but they kept him on because he was a good recruiter who couldn't actually coach but was the son of an old friend and knew about all the coach's extracurricular activities at the local steakhouse. Hypothetically of course, that would be a worse situation.  UofM athletic department clearly doesn't have a crystal clean track record but this doesn't even move the needle for me. They made an oversight. They took care of it quickly.

brose

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:31 AM ^

I don't know the in's and out's of this, and neither does anyone other than 3 or 4 people.  It was an egg on the face moment, they found out about it and he was gone. 

goblu330

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:33 AM ^

Honestly if I were Harbaugh I would just consider leaving.  They hired a dude, it wasn’t a fit, so they booted him.  Swiftly. People are going PSYCHO about this and it is out of control.

mtzlblk

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

Thank you for being the voice of reason AND experience on this. It never seemed to me like this was Ward's doing at all.

The moment the hire was announced I thought, "that's a bad idea" simply based on Schemy's statements that victims in the Anderson fiasco were lying and how tone deaf it was for Harbaugh to bring him on. It never occurred to me that Ward had a hand in it, as I assume Harbaugh has pretty much carte blanche in hiring his staff. In fact, I doubt Ward even dares to try and mess with that process.

Then the Twitters......and, well.....I thought how awful it will be to have someone who supports those kind of "alternative and diverse" (🙄) opinions (read blatantly racist, homophobic, etc.) representing the team in any way. I assumed it would get swept under the rug like some other recent items (I'm not going to rehash it, but finish the investigation, at least interview the players, and ffs sign the forms this year) and it would go away. By the time I looked, Schemy was already in heavy delete mode on his account and it felt like a fait accompli.

Part of me was thinking "maybe Ward will actually do something about it?" No idea if that occurred, or who the lucky person was that had to go tell Harbaugh "no way" and explain to him that this is "out there" now and every non-white, non-straight, non-whatever recruit and their parents will know about it. I have to think that his coaches/main recruiters were the ones to lay it out for him, or perhaps he saw it himself and corrected it. We'll likely never know, but one thing is for sure......this isn't something you can smear Ward with.

bronxblue

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:58 AM ^

This is good context but I also think there is some hand-waving away of the fact that even if this is the current state of the process, the process keeps fucking up to an extent.  I think Warde gets dragged for a lot of things that aren't quite his responsibility but he also tried to bury the Mel report and then kept arguing to retain him despite ample pressure against it, he wound up having to fire the volleyball coach shortly after giving him a new contract for detrimental conduct, and various other minor transgressions and missteps.  Yes, these assistants are relatively low-level employees to the AD but (a) you should still have processes in place that do more detailed background checks even if it means firing a guy a couple weeks later when something comes out, and (b) need to recognize that whatever may have been appropriate 10-20 years ago in terms of diligence doesn't work anymore with social media and the like.  This was a public-facing role that was going to rely on social media heavily; it took 10 minutes to look into Glenn's public twitter history to see this stuff.  This isn't some junior admin in accounting; this is a recruiting spot that is, by its nature, part of the public face of the University.  Sure, Warde isn't expect to weigh in on every hire but the processes his administration apply to these hires was insufficient.  And if that means allowing Harbaugh to make these types of hires and then fighting with him afterwards to fire the guy because it comes out, that's his job.  It's why he's paid millions of dollars, in part, as the guy who has to have these types of conversations and make these decisions.

Both him and Harbaugh share equal blame in my mind - Glenn's politics were apparently well-known around the school and while a guy shouldn't be barred from employment no matter how stupid and ill-informed they are, if it's going to hurt his ability to do his job then someone higher up has to make that call.  Neither of them did and so they turned a nothing issue into a multi-day one.

 

los barcos

May 23rd, 2023 at 11:03 AM ^

Thanks for this information - this is exactly what I mentioned yesterday and got a lot of replies from online ADs who claim Warde should have personally signed off on this hire and it was yet again a failure of his leadership.  Geesh - tell me you've never worked for a large organization without telling me you've never worked at a large organization...

Zoltanrules

May 23rd, 2023 at 11:18 AM ^

Everyone needs a break here.

Let's talk about the Michigan State Police squad car dash cam video chasing Lester the escaped steer on 1-75 in Oakland County.

Police posted the video of the chase on social media, because, in the state police's words: "if there are no pictures or video it didn’t happen." It shows some cowboy wranglers on Sunday catching a steer that had been on the loose along Interstate 75 for weeks.

snarling wolverine

May 23rd, 2023 at 5:32 PM ^

Once again, like with every other shitty thing that’s happened under his watch, we can come up with plausible deniability on Warde’s part.  The problem is that we have too much a pattern of incompetence coming from the athletic department by this point.  
 

Is it Warde’s personal job to check a prospective hire’s social media likes?  No.  Nor is it Jim’s job.  But it should have been someone’s job in the athletic department - but no one did it, even though it could have been done in a half-hour. That we had no one with instruction to check up on this kind of thing, as a routine measure, is embarrassing.  That’s on the AD.

25dodgebros

May 23rd, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^

This is the best take on this self-inflicted wound.  Hiring someone for any position on the football team at the University of Michigan is not like hiring a mid-level engineer for an auto company.  Especially if that person has the last name Schembechler.  The hire will be scrutinized and his past, present, and future actions will be scrutinized by media, alumni, opponents, haters, and hangers-on.  The notion that no one at U of M had the responsibility to do any screening of the new hires' social media accounts screams incompetence.  

Michigan Realist

May 23rd, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^

Everybody gets offended these days. The pussy line is getting longer and longer.