Sean Payton to Broncos
This would seem to end our annual Harbaugh to the NFL cycle
February 1st, 2023 at 1:19 PM ^
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Rob
Sounds like you're answering your own question there... Good news is im not a narc anymore
January 31st, 2023 at 5:09 PM ^
Back in the day, I worked with Steve who's wife was named Beth. They had a son who's name was Seth-true story. Later Steve joked and said of they had a second child, they'd name he or she Beve.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:26 PM ^
Hopefully she gets to spend lots of quality family time with her brother Darlar
January 31st, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
That's a clumsy portmanteau. I wonder if her mother is a vermouth drunk.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:43 PM ^
Loy Vaught says that’s crazy.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:07 PM ^
Not good, because it takes the pressure of UM to get an extension done with Jim Harbaugh. People seem to think the extension is for Harbaugh's benefit. It's not. He made over $7 mm in 2021 (and donated $1+ mm to AD employees) and over $10 mm this past year. The extension is for recruiting. No extension and '24 recruiting gets much more difficult. Whether Harbaugh leaves after '23 or not, we need a good '24 recruiting class. If Michigan does not get an extension done, the class suffers and whoever is the HC in '24 suffers. And UM suffers. Harbaugh will be fine under his existing contract and will get more NFL interest after the '23 season. He will have very good options. UM ... idk about that.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:12 PM ^
On the other hand it probably has no impact on anything. People worry too much.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:19 PM ^
Especially this one...
January 31st, 2023 at 5:21 PM ^
Well, "probably" is a great word. It is about as non-committal as possible. I think you are wrong. I don't think "probably" there will be no impact. And what if there is? Is it worth the risk? For what? A dick measuring contest between Jim Harbaugh and Warde Manuel? Is that how this great run is going to end? After 2007, the 2008-2010 dark years, the 2011-2014 forgettable years and even Harbaugh's first 5 years trying to right the ship, we are finally back. And we are going to eff it all up because Jim Harbaugh is difficult or quirky or whatever? If we are this stupid, we deserve another decade of mediocrity.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:49 PM ^
So you'd rather have the threat of Harbaugh going to the NFL, whether true or not, in addition to Harbaugh's contract uncertainty hurting recruiting? Lol what
January 31st, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
Are you responding to me? Rather than what? Would I rather have a great '24 class and deal with this next January or a crappy '24 class and deal with this next January? I think I will take door #1.
January 31st, 2023 at 6:53 PM ^
How’s that number 1 ranked basketball class working out?
January 31st, 2023 at 5:10 PM ^
Here comes all the NFL didn’t want him, Sparty and TSDS (STDS) trolls.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:13 PM ^
Looks like we've crossed the finish line with Jim staying at Michigan. Unless the finish line gets moved back again, this should do it until next year.
I hope Jim gets to be the highest paid HC on the Big-10 and maybe Top 5 in the nation. at least. Remember, Michigan had a $17M surplus in their budget this past fiscal year so the $$$ is there to pay Jim what he deserves.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^
They really wanted Jim Harbaugh.
But they got second best.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:20 PM ^
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January 31st, 2023 at 5:22 PM ^
Odd fact: Jim Harbaugh and Sean Payton were born six days apart in December 1963.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:44 PM ^
I mean they got their consolation prize. Not bad.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:50 PM ^
Good. Now leave us alone. We have National Championship to win
January 31st, 2023 at 5:50 PM ^
Ha. This might end it for this annual but expect it to start again in 330 somethin days.
January 31st, 2023 at 5:59 PM ^
It must be true. Schefter's a Michigan man. Michigan undergrad, Northwestern professional school. Like someone else I know.
January 31st, 2023 at 6:43 PM ^
Is Oakland still in play?
January 31st, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
Is Oakland still in play?
January 31st, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
So, is Payton going to be on Harbaugh’s staff in Denver? I thought JH to the NFL was a done deal…
January 31st, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
That's why they call him Payton. You gotta pay a ton to get him.
January 31st, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Even though this news is out there, Harbaugh will still have a 3rd interview, hell maybe a 4th
January 31st, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^
But what's his buyout
February 1st, 2023 at 12:56 AM ^
For the last couple of weeks, there have been countless posts about our head football coach and our AD. These seem to be the consensus views on this Board:
1. It is essential that M offer an extension to JH because of 2024 recruiting.
2. All this NFL talk re: Harbaugh was nonsense.
3. An extension with more $$ & a larger buyout will insure JH will stay at Michigan after this year.
4. Everything is the AD’s fault.
IMO, there are serious flaws with the logic and reasoning on all four points.
1. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the extension JH signed last year go past the 2024 season? Furthermore, the damage to 2023 & maybe, 2024 recruiting is not a result of a contract issue. It is the direct result of JH’s dalliances with the NFL the last two years
2. All of the reporting re: JH having interest in the NFL the last two years was accurate. He did fly to Minnesota, interview, and said that he would have accepted the HC position if offered. This year, he spoke with Carolina, then, Denver, and, then, inexplicably, after stating that he was staying, welcomed the Denver owner to AA for a face to face meeting and interview.
3. A contract extension with a larger buyout will have zero impact on JH’s decision to leave for the NFL. An NFL team that really wants him will have no problem forking over the $$ to get him. And don’t come back with some suggestion of a ridiculously high buyout amount. JH won’t sign that. No top college head coach would.
4. The situation over the last two years was entirely JH’s fault. JH has not only entertained NFL offers, he has been dishonest throughout the process. He had that Albom interview after the Vikings turned him down saying he was here to stay and forever done with the NFL. That turned out to be patently false.
He then sent out that tweet after talking with Ono and a week later, met with the Denver owner. Once again, he was dishonest. If his tweet was the truth, all he had to do was tell the Denver owner no thanks, don’t come to AA, I’m staying at Michigan, I’m not going to talk with you. BUT HE DIDN’T DO THAT! His actions completely undermined the credibility of his earlier tweet.
As for our AD, this idea that he mishandled, mistreated and “insulted” JH is totally hogwash.
Fact #1-In any of the big time programs we compete with, JH would have been fired either before 2020 or shortly thereafter. You think Ohio State would have retained a head coach who was 0-5 vs us, 3-3 vs MSU, 1-5 in bowls and zero B1G championships? All of the other top Power 5 schools would have fired a head coach with that record.
Our AD should be commended for sticking with him, but formulating a reasonable revised contract that was heavily performance based. He accomplished something no major program AD has done recently. Got the head coach to take a pay cut but gave him the ability to make the same amount of $$ with incentives. And, he, unlike all the “experts”, accurately gauged the lack of NFL interest with JH at that time. I would argue that he lit a fire under JH. JH has certainly been a different coach since then.
JH has been an outstanding coach the last two years, resulting in the best back to back seasons since the days of Yost and Crisler. And, not to take anything away from the 1997 NC team, but, if the last two teams played under the 1997 rules, they would have been 11-1 & 12-0 playing Utah both years in the Rose Bowl, who they probably would have beaten, and, at worse, been #2 both years with the possibility of a co-NC one or both of those years.
But both years, JH ruined the off season and recruiting by his NFL dalliances. And, even if the NCAA situation is total BS, it was certainly not a result of anything the AD did or didn’t do. One more headache JH has added to the mess. All of this together, all 100% the direct results of JH’s actions, have negatively affected recruiting.
And, sadly, this will go on every single offseason until JH ends up back in the NFL. What the AD should be doing now is assessing potential HC replacements for the inevitability of JH’s departure.
I am happy he is here for at least one more year. This may be the most talented team we have had since 1997. We have a legitimate chance at a NC and when I look at the other contenders, I think we should be the favorite. I look forward to another 13-0 season, a win in the semifinal and an appearance in the NC game. Then, we can say goodbye to JH when he most certainly finally returns to the NFL, thank him for the greatest three consecutive years of Michigan football in over a century, and, then, we will find out whether our AD can make the right decision for his successor. GO BLUE!!