Remember '16 UCF/Scott Frost lost 51-14 but "out hit" us
September 16th, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^
I think if we’re looking for reasons to dislike Scott Frost, there is a more viable candidate from around ‘97
September 16th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^
Exactly. That was when his punchable face developed.
Sam Webb had the perfect reaction to his "out-hit," comment after the Central Florida game two years ago. He just laughed and said, "wow, Scott Frost has not changed."
September 16th, 2018 at 5:28 PM ^
This might work for fans... but as far as the team goes Im pretty sure not a single one of them were alive yet in 97.
September 16th, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^
You don't think anyone on the team is 21 years old?
September 16th, 2018 at 7:26 PM ^
Honest question: wouldn't our guys have done the same thing if the roles were reversed? I don't understand why people get all over Frost for advocating for his team and coach. That's what competitors do
September 16th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^
No, because there's no role reversal necessary. Both teams were in basically the same spot in '97. Michigan handled it with class and was not rewarded. Nebraska handled it without class and won half a national championship that they didn't deserve, with special assists from Peyton "waaaah that was my Heisman waahhh wahhh wahhh my daddy said it was" Manning and Phil Fulmer.
September 17th, 2018 at 2:14 AM ^
I'm not saying that I agree with what the coach's poll did, but if #1 Michigan had done to #8 Washington State what #2 Nebraska did to #3 Tennessee (and Peyton Manning), Michigan would have finished #1 in both polls.
12-0 Nebraska beat the snot out of 11-1 SEC champ Tennessee 42-17.
11-0 Michigan just barely hung on against 10-1 PAC10 champ WSU 21-16, with the game going down to the last seconds.
If you want to secure an undisputed championship, don't leave it up to the judges' scorecards. Knock your opponent out and there's no question.
September 17th, 2018 at 6:35 AM ^
Did you watch the Nebraska-Tennessee game? Yeah, Nebraska won by a lot. Against a Tenn. team whose QB, Peyton Manning, seemed physically incapable of throwing more than 20 yards or so. Looked as if he was playing injured.
Michigan also had the more impressive wins against two common opponents. And Nebraska needed an illegal play just to get into overtime against a mediocre Missouri team.
I like the saying about "don't leave it up to the judges' scorecards." It's a good frame of mind for handling an opponent in a boxing match. But it doesn't really apply to the context of the judges deciding which winner of two different games should be champion--those judges necessarily go to their scorecards.
September 17th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
The performance in the bowl game in on Jan. 1, 1998 was just as important as our performance in our bowl game 50 years earlier in 1948.
From the Bentley Historical library website for UM sports history:
"Michigan and Notre Dame had traded the top spot in the polls through much of the season. Notre Dame was No. 1 and Michigan No. 2 in the final regular season poll. In an unprecedented post-bowl games poll, the Associated Press named Michigan No. 1 on the strength of the Wolverines' decisive win over Southern California in the Rose Bowl. Notre Dame had been less dominant in its season ending win over the Trojans."
September 16th, 2018 at 2:44 PM ^
Yeah pretty weak bulliten board material
September 16th, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
Bulllettin, not bulliten-Pretty weak spelling material
September 16th, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^
Bullet-tin. FIFY
September 16th, 2018 at 3:34 PM ^
Fwiw, you spelled it wrong, too.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:36 PM ^
Doah, incorrect correction!
September 16th, 2018 at 10:59 PM ^
D'oh*
September 16th, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^
Ugh, can we give this thing a rest? It was during a post game interview he said something like “we came out strong, I thought we out hit them in the first half”. It was a generic coach speak comment and for some reason people have held on to it for 2 years.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^
"It's hard to say when the score is what it is, but we came in here and outhit those guys today," Frost said. "Standing on the sideline, there was no doubt who was hitting harder. Our guys came in hungry and wanting to do that. It's rare you can come into Michigan and rush for 300 yards on them. They had to run a fly sweep in the fourth quarter to get to 100...
"There was no lull. We outhit them in the first half, I thought we outhit them in the second half. They've got a lot of playmakers and they made a bunch of plays. But standing on the sideline, watching the impacts and watching the collisions and watching the line move, I thought we won that battle."
Plus the guy (and his mom, apparently) is just an assclown in general and deserves mockery.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:29 PM ^
Michigan barely had to run the ball, Scotty, because Speight spent the entire game carving up your shit pass defense to the tune of 312 yards, 4 TDs and a QBR of 93.8 (100 is perfect).
Watching him lose at Nebraska is very satisfying.
September 17th, 2018 at 7:34 AM ^
Scott Frost is nothing like Brady Hoke. Frost is loud, uber-agressive, and suffers from too much testosterone. Hoke was simply Dave Brandon's passive little prison bitch. Plus, Frost wears a headset.
September 16th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^
Uh, Scott, you had 275 yards, not 300. Your team had their asses handed to them.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:58 PM ^
It stuck in my craw until now, and I'm just a fan. If I was a player from the 2016 squad, I would take it very personally.
If I was a coach I would use any slights against my team to the max. Works quite well for little brother.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^
Shut up mrs. frost!!!
Should have taught your son some better sportsmanship.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:54 PM ^
Remember it? If you read the board you will see numerous references to it everyday.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:04 PM ^
I have no real problem with Scott Frost. Now, Scott Frost’s mom, on the other hand... I can’t stand Scott Frost’s mom
September 16th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^
I hear she hits harder than hell
September 16th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
She's the key to the Black Skirt defense . . .
September 16th, 2018 at 5:48 PM ^
Stacey's mom, however, . . . .
September 16th, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^
Got it goin' on.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:18 PM ^
OP we remember. The "out hit us" meme has been used ad nauseam any time Scott Frost is mentioned.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^
I need to hear it more, it takes a lot to get me nauseated- need to hear Harbaugh say it this week to the press and start a pissing match with Frost
September 16th, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
I know the out-hit comment is a meme around here and that we all like making fun of it, but I honestly don't mind it. We had just annihilated his team, and he was trying to find something positive to say to his guys so that they could keep their heads up and go into the next week not too down on themselves.
What was he supposed to say? "Yeah, we suck and I saw no redeeming qualities in our loss today?"
September 16th, 2018 at 3:31 PM ^
I do not think he was the first college coach to ever suffer a beat down. Say something positive in the locker room to them, but do not go before the media and make yourself look and sound like an assclown, unless of course you are an assclown and want to make sure we don't forget it.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^
It's not like he said it in the locker room and it happened to get recorded. He went before the media, after losing by 37, and was bragging about how UCF "outhit" us.
I was ready for him to go on to explain that he "heard football."
September 16th, 2018 at 3:30 PM ^
He blocked me on twitter after that game because I said he looked like Scut Farkas from A Christmas Story.
This was about 3 hours after the game. He was just hanging out on twitter blocking people.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
If I were a reporter I would ask Harbs this week: "Jim remember in '16 when Scott Frost's squad allegedly out hit you guys, but you won 51-14, will your guys be up to the challenge of a hard hitting Scott Frost team?" Answer could be priceless.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
WD not gonna lie that's pretty amazing. You have my respect for that. If you mailed him a Davy Crockett hat I'd put you on my Christmas card list.
September 16th, 2018 at 6:18 PM ^
Being blocked on Twitter is amazing?
September 16th, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^
They did kinda outhit us in the first half of that game.
As for comments from over two decades ago, I don’t care. Sometimes I just want to win the game because its a contest.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^
We were up 34-7 at halftime
September 16th, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
I didn’t say that they outscored us in the first half. From coach:
"They hit well, that was a good, physical football team and I was impressed with the way they tackled, I was impressed with the way they played," Harbaugh said. "I was very impressed with their speed. I agree, they played very well.
Whether or not they outhit us really doesn't matter to me. It’s mostly an opinion thing, but for a coach that is building a culture l can certainly understand him saying it. I also don’t understand why M fans would get their undies in a bunch over it.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
It is possible to say something positive about how your team played without demeaning the team that just annihilated you in the game. How about, “the score may not have reflected this, but I thought we played hard from start to finish, we ran the ball really well, and did it in a very hostile environment.” It’s just poor sportsmanship to talk the way he did. At least, that’s how I see it.
September 16th, 2018 at 8:54 PM ^
That's exactly what happened in '97.
Brian Griese lobbied for Michigan after winning the Rose Bowl and going undefeated "I don't know what more we could do."
He made his own case, with class. He never said a word about Nebraska.
But Frost came out and trashed Michigan left and right to make his case.
It left a bad taste in our mouths, and is why to this day many of us want to see his ass get kicked. Especially since he has not changed, he's still a classless dick.
Let's roll the fucker.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:07 PM ^
Methinks M fans on this board must have plenty of other reasons to get their undies in a bunch Mr. Negative 10 million points!
September 16th, 2018 at 5:43 PM ^
In my lifetime I’ve learned that M fans have never lacked real or imagined reasons to get their panties in a bunch.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
No way. I have no idea what you're talking about, op. This is news to me.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
Hope his QBs try to outhit Bush.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^
LOL. Martinez looks a buck75. Bush will snap him like a twig! Then it's all walk on QB's!
September 16th, 2018 at 5:12 PM ^
6 foot 2 inches 220 lbs - not twig-like.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:19 PM ^
220 is a farce, he is a lightweight; an accident waiting to happen. Proved that already- a true freshman with little time in the weight program. Hope they run him a lot. Winovich will will murder him.
September 16th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
Yeah, and he moves well. If he plays, he will be a tough player to stop.