Records of the 10 youngest teams in CFB
This board needs to take a chill pill and go with the flow for the remainder of the season.
I was listening to Michigan Podcast last night (good listen for all of you on the ledge) and a list of the 10 youngest CFB teams was brought up in a tweet by Michael Spath per Phil Steele.
The respective records are:
UM. 5-2
USC. 6-2
MSU. 6-1
Ill. 2-5
Duke. 4-4
Ark. 2-5
Pitt. 3-5
Stanford. 5-2
TAMU. 5-2
UF. 3-3
I'd say 5-2 is pretty damn good considering we don't have an Oline, QB, de facto RB or WRs like many of these other schools do. (Looking at you Stanford, USC and TAMU especially!!!)
I doubt a Jim Harbaugh Michigan is sitting at 5-2 with talent like Bryce Love, Sam Darnold, Stanford Olinemen, or Christian Kirk suiting up for the Maize n Blue.
Yes, we probably should be 6-1 but shit always happens against MSU.
We got 3 weeks of semi-decent teams to improve against until Wisconsin and OSU.
Relax.
October 26th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^
Another delusional fanboy. Im starting to think the stereotype is true.
Dantonio racked up 200 yards of O on what was considered a top 5 unit in a half. They outplayed us in the 1st half and sat on their lead intelligently in the second
Do you understand football or scheme?
October 26th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^
...maybe not much. Also, he should've known better than to throw the ball in the rain storm. Kelly did the same thing last year at NC State in an actual hurricane.
Instead of INTs on back-to-back possessions, he should've kept the ball on the ground and, at worst, turn the game into a punt-a-thon and try to flip field position. Instead, we threw picks in our end of the field and had poor field position the entire 4th quarter. It was poor game management.
October 26th, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
"Harbaugh coached like he didn't realize a murderstorm was in the forecast."
I completely disagree with this and it smacks of hindsight being 20/20. I think it's the exact opposite. They realized it was in the forecast, and planned for it, and that planning (to virtually everyone before the game) was this: that there would be a significant weather delay in the second half. No one, and I mean no one, expected that there wouldn't be. That fundamentally changed the nature of the way that game was planned, because in decent weather (or even just light rain), which it would have been had there been the expected delay during the worst of that storm, we were doing just fine after the halftime adjustments. In addition, that second halftime would have provided opportunities for more adjustments. It was just a freak fluke that the game wasn't delayed. Seriously, no one saw that coming.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^
There is absolutely no way that Harbaugh was planning for a "second halftime". That would be asinine.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^
I thought it would have almost assured that we would've come out of the delay and retaken the lead. But you can't gameplan around a "hope".
October 26th, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^
Sure you do. You just don't ONLY game plan around it. Again, never said that.
October 26th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^
You made it seem like that was their go to plan, as if their entire gameplan was foiled because there wasn't a weather delay.
October 26th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^
I thought I was pretty clear in saying that I disagreed with the poster that I was responding to who said it was like the coaching staff didn't know it was coming. I should have been clearer.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^
I'm actually curious about which part is so stunning to you that you'd go to lengths to actually insult someone over it? If the suggestion is that the coaches should plan for the adverse weather (which... duh, yes) then part of the contingency planning for the adverse weather is just as equally that you won't play in it because of delay. Nowhere did I say that they were banking on either one, just that part of any rational contingency planning in that circumstance would have involved planning a gameplan for if that a delay would occur, which would have let the worst of the bad weather pass, with the game resuming in far less bad weather. I mean, literally the entire gameplan would have been different under that circumstance and any reasonable person going into that game who looked at the radar absolutely was sure that there'd be a delay and could be reasonably certain of about exactly what time of night it would happen. To the point that they extensively talked about it on the radio pregame show.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^
It would be asinine to NOT plan for it. It would also be asinine to ONLY plan for it (note that I clearly did not say that).
October 26th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 2:19 PM ^
that resulted in INTs.
October 26th, 2017 at 5:03 PM ^
It doesn't matter, if Coach Harbaugh would have ran the ball every down in the second half and we didn't win, you would be complaining that he didn't throw the ball when MSU was playing all out run defense.
The better team doesn't always win, but what do I know, I'm not an expert like you...
October 26th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^
...with a guy struggling in regular weather, I don't know what to say. At any rate, the better team won that night. Five turnovers says that the better team won. Also, the rushing statistics (158-102) say the better team won.
October 26th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:18 PM ^
2 weeks to prepare against a depleted MSU squad at home.
That should probably be a win.
October 26th, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^
I agree.
now name a team (excl. Rutgers) where if M loses the TO margin by 5, that we should expect to win.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:01 PM ^
This team has had 7 weeks to improve and they haven't really shown any kind of improvement.
I'm not holding my breath that they will figure it out in the next 3.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:36 PM ^
I don't know what to say. O'Korn was not the reason we lost to PSU, which is what everyone expected would be the case. He has improved greatly since MSU.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:01 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
What, was Mo Ways finally, somehow, going to do better than DPJ has so far?
October 26th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^
That punt return TD was huge.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:09 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 10:18 AM ^
Why are we thinking enough improvement to beat WI and OSU will happen? There really isn't a reason to think any of the three games will be 21 point wins. Probably all within 2 scores.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^
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October 25th, 2017 at 11:09 PM ^
I'll be ok with 9-4 and a bowl win provided we seriously contend for the big ten title next year. We return pretty much everyone.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:26 PM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 12:12 AM ^
Hilarious considering he's regarded as one of the top interior OL for 2018 draft. Cole is a NFL OL.
Michigan OT is in shambles that Harbaugh seriously looked at grad transfer OT this season and Cole had to move to LT beacuse there is a huge need to fill at OT.
October 26th, 2017 at 1:36 AM ^
A roster hole this year does not necessarily mean that it will be problematic next year as well.
Unless you're a 5 star lineman, chances are you're going to have to redshirt and put on some lbs.
Hopefully, 2 out of Filiaga, Honigford, Newsome, Steuber, Hudson work out for 2018 with Runyan, JBB and Ulizio returning as backups.
Onwenu, Bredeson returning and Ruiz at C with Hall, Vastardis and Spanellis behind em for OG.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:18 AM ^
When it comes to OL, we've been saying this for years now.
October 26th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
I think next year's OL is likely still going to be bad. Yes Onwenu, Bredeson, and JBB return as starters but only Onwenu has looked competent out of those three. Whoever we replace Cole with is going to be a downgrade, and you're probably looking at inserting two FR(RS)/SO into the starting lineup.
There's literally nothing outside of hope to suggest that next year's OL is going to be much better than this year's version. All of the same issues on this year's line -- talent, youth, inexperience -- are going to be there next season as well.
October 26th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^
rarely see times on the field because they aren't strong enough or physically mature enough to be able to block against grown men.
Just because you're throwing out names doesn't mean they're a stud. Recruiting stars matters less once you're on the field. What matters is if they're a NFL player or not. That can come from anyone from no star to 5 stars. Right now, Cole is a bondafide NFL player and scouts consider him a IOL whether if it's C or OG. Cole is playing out of position at LT but isn't doing a bad job there.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:49 PM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
Well, then... It's the same deal as last year and the year before and the year before that and...
October 26th, 2017 at 12:01 AM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
The thing is, if Harbaugh is the coach his track record shows, Michigan should bounce back next year and be quite good. It shouldn't be a Hoke 2014 situation where the team stagnates and regresses all over despite being more experienced and talented. Its just a matter of will we make certain adjustments and will some lucky bounces go our way when it comes to a title.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:40 AM ^
If Dylan is a lights out QB and wins the starting job and can actually complete long passes down the field, then yes we might. But Odds are it will be a Wilton and Peters battle and Sp8 will win and continue to be that so/so QB. I see losses to ND, OSU and possibly MSU on the road. 2019 may be our year.
October 26th, 2017 at 6:41 AM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 8:47 AM ^
Why do people keep saying this? Last year was THE year and we all knew it then and no one was saying "next year...". Unfortunately we blew it by turning it over 3 times against OSU and came up 1 inch short, so people started talking about 2018 and beyond.
October 26th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
9 seems unlikely. I think 8 wins is our ceiling now.