Rational Takes - Who do we get?

Submitted by clarkiefromcanada on October 31st, 2020 at 3:58 PM

I'm a longer term season ticket holder (back when you could actually go to games and things like that). I'm upset with this outcome and you too are probably upset with this outcome.

Rational takes then: who do we get if the Harbaugh experiment hasn't worked? Looking back at RichRod, Hoke and now Harbaugh (and I acknowledge the this team is a lot better off than Hoke era) but not good enough. 

So who do we get? 

Do we sell our souls and get Urban. Honestly, on this day, I think I'm willing.

PaulWall

October 31st, 2020 at 4:01 PM ^

I don't know.  Are there institutional constraints that will handcuff the next coach? Like players having to attend class, is that harbaugh, or is that no matter who is there? 

A_Maized

October 31st, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^

F outta here with the attending class bs!  This excuse making and enabling doesn’t help.  Sick of hearing about OSU players not attending class while they have more academic all conference players than we do.  Sick of all the excuses.  The constraints are the arrogance that surrounds a portion of the “Michigan Man” mantra.   We are getting out-recruited, out-worked and out coached.  We won’t win simply because we are “UM”.  If we prioritized excellence Harbaugh would already be gone.  We recruit mediocre enough without also having the only coach in the conference who is not under contract past next year.  They haven’t extended the contract because he is mediocre and they haven’t had the balls to pull the trigger because he is a “Michigan Man”.  End rant.  

GoBlueinOhio

November 1st, 2020 at 10:42 AM ^

I 100% agree. We need to get away from the Bo lineage. We need someone to run the program like it should be. Bring in fresh ideas. We have the money, we just need to get the rest of the university to understand that. I think after the Ass kicking osu will put on us, it will start to make sense to them. 

Guy Fawkes

October 31st, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^

I dont give a shit who we get. Maybe just someone who can answer questions coherently and doesnt embarrass the shit out of the entire fanbase. And someone who recruits normal and doesnt leave big fucking gaps all over the field. 

Toby Flenderson

October 31st, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^

Michigan probably needs a cultural rehaul in this program, from top to bottom. 

And by this, no one with Michigan ties, not one. Michigan needs a high-energy, elite recruiter, because this is what college football is going towards. 

atomicpunk

October 31st, 2020 at 5:41 PM ^

Your "rumblings" are wrong. Fickell isn't coming to Michigan, trust me, nor is Urban Meyer. As posted in another thread, Michigan would have a better chance hiring Ryan Day away from OSU (and there's zero chance of that) than getting Urban Meyer to even say the word Michigan. Go get a "Michigan Man," they're the best, right? Maybe Desmond Howard will take the job... he's most certainly stupid enough. 

MGoStrength

October 31st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^

I think the rational take is we really missed our #1 CB that opted out today.  

And by this, no one with Michigan ties, not one. Michigan needs a high-energy, elite recruiter, because this is what college football is going towards. 

The problem with that is, none of the proven elite recruiters would be interested in UM.  That list is short...Meyer, Saban, Sweeney, Smart, & maybe Fisher.  None of them are coming to UM.  There is no savior for UM...no guaranteed guy like with OSU & Meyer that can come in and win immediately at an elite level.  UM has to chose between a good, but not great JH and the unknown.  You can take an overhaul approach.  Maybe you'll get Rich Rod 2.0.  Maybe you'll get Dabo Sweeney.  But, you're going to have to pick between a guaranteed good thing that will never satisfy the fan base or take a shot at greatness and possible get worse.  I'm thinking they probably keep sticking it out with JH until he's ready for a change, which is probably another 2-3 years unless you hits the lottery.

mitchewr

October 31st, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^

We don’t just need to hire someone from the outside. We’ve tried that before with Rich Rod. That’s not enough. We need to also expel ALL of the “old guard” and get them out from being involved in the program. You can’t hire an outsider and stick him in the middle of an old regime and expect things to work out. You have to scrap the whole thing and start from scratch.