Question on "Ohio State and other Big Ten teams" collusion

Yea but they didn’t buy tickets I guess? Idk this is so crazy. Everyone is suspended or nobody is. These talking heads are out of their minds. Stephen A. And Paul Dweeb are on a ban Michigan from the playoffs rant. Absolute morons that have no idea what they’re talking about. Never played. Again, absolutely batshit

Understand that OSU had a vested interest in our game. They would have much preferred to play TCU than us, if they would've made it past UGA. 

If they had our signs it really shouldn't matter because we beat OSU by 3 TDs and change and they had our signs.

We lost that game because JJ threw 2 pick 6s, we had the ball 3 times inside the 2 and came away with 3 points, and the defense busted mutliple times. From a practical standpoint, they don't matter.

From a NARRATIVE standpoint, it would further that literally everyone does this. But as TCU hasn't been trying to get us penalized, I'm not sure we should blow any smoke their way. OSU, Purdue and RU gaslit the big ten with crocodile tears - don't know exactly who else did too but all of them deserve all the smoke. Let's keep TCU clean in case we jet to the Big 12.

Loyalties are to themselves. Imagine how much it will hurt trying to recruit against our rivals if they are bringing in Natties. Or if they make it to the finals, who would they rather play. Seems to make sense. 

The TCU game is a great example of what adjustments can be made in the 2nd half regardless whether a team knows your signals or not. Its obvious some of UM’s yearly conference opponents are not as privy to this earth-shattering concept as others.

Also - If you’re spending up to 5 hours a day going over this situation, I hope you’re considering a job in research or organizational policy. I would add your recent work under the “Other Skills/Talents” section. 

Now it is clear that Ohio State is the ring leader and Rutgers its lackey. Other Big Ten teams, even if they are currently in the ring, should be aware that they could be the target too. 

"seems like their loyalties aren't with the B1G"

Not sure if this is sarcasm. No Ohio State doesn't care about Michigan or the B1G.

They only care about their cult fan base...like the 35 year old kid who tapes himself watching every game while wearing batting gloves.

It’s funny (not funny, truly) that a common narrative about the TCU game when this first broke out in the media was “that was a game unlike any other that Michigan played last year” as if that was because Michigan didn’t have TCU’s signs. There were absolutely articles and talking heads that said that. But what IF it was a game unlike any other Michigan played because TCU had Michigan’s signals. I think that is absolutely plausible.

Yes, TCU probably had a good share of Michigan's signs as sign stealing is extremely prevalent and commonplace.

No, we don't care because we are not standing on 3rd base with a big pack of Charmin.

No, it isn't why Michigan lost.  TCU outplayed Michigan and Michigan made too many mistakes to win a football game. 

Good luck on the job hunt. 

If Ohio State shared our signs with Purdue, they absolutely 100% shared them with TCU too. They did not want to face us again

The FUCK YOU list

1. ESPN.  With the exception of Des, don't come to AA on 11/25!

2. NCAA.  Double for you Charlie Baker.

3. OSU and Ryan Day.

4. Paul Finebaum aka (Dick with Ears!)

5. Big 10

Seth and Brian have said that when they do the play by play analysis for UFR, they can usually tell when a team is decisively winning the play call RPS in a way that indicates they may have the other side's signs and it's making a noticeable impact. 

They haven't called out TCU as one of those games, so my guess is that any signs UM or TCU had didn't make much of a difference.

How could we have scouted TCU when we didn't know we would play them?

Our D was absolutely abused and we threw 2 pick-6's...that is why we lost.  Stop talking like the rest of the people saying that the only reason why Michigan wins is because they know the plays.

If OSU is colluding with Rutgers and Purdue, its only fair that we start the game with a 62-20 score.

No.  
if we’re shitting on 3rd base for being a whiny bitch about sign stealing and claiming it doesn’t change outcomes because everyone does it…

Then we can’t claim victimhood of claimed sign stealing as well.  Choose a lane.

Yes, the TCU game was closer than the last 2 depantsings of OSU by UM, but we lost to TCU due to

1) 2 pick 6’es

2) Overturned TD which became a turnover at the 1 yard line

3) Turnover on downs inside the 3 yard line.

A bunch of low probability shit for a team probably 14-17 points better on paper.  Shit happens.  It happened that day.  That’s why they play the games 

Michigan lost to TCU, because of poor execution and an egregious call (or two).

OSU and Rutgers sharing their intelligence with Purdue prior to the B1G CCG is just teamwork - it’s not collusion - they were just working proactively together .. across divisions.. in a creative way to advance Sportsmanship.   Yeah, I think that’s how those three - and any others involved - will try to spin it.

If they gave them to Purdue, then it is pretty save to assume they gave them to TCU.

I wouldn't expect them to want us to win, whether for conference pride or $$$.  We are more than happy when they lose.

We lost to TCU because natural grass puts us at a disadvantage, they were prepared, we were unprepared and we didn't execute.  Probably a couple of blown calls.

If you can't find anything better, you could always take Portnoy up on his offer.

It wasn't lack of B1G loyalty that OSU cared about.  They were worried about maybe having to play Michigan again and getting their asses kicked for the second time in a season.

Poor, poor Greg Schiano, who is now so very, very upset that Rutgers might get distracted now that it has been revealed that Rutgers was in on the conspiracy to steal Michigan's signs and give advanced, in-person scouting  to our upcoming opponents! It's just so UNFAIR!!!!

https://sports.yahoo.com/ticked-off-greg-schiano-responds-182117577.html

Poor baby!

The only appropriate response is to win the next three games by 20+ points each..... and then the B1G Championship by 35 points..... phuk them all!!!!

What's clear is Pettiti has paid too much attention to the mob to release a statement nationally about respecting due process to kill this story. 

Because he has not he has opened Pandora's box of shit kicking and mudslinging and things are getting uglier because he's a money guy not a LEADER.

Guarantee tcu knew our signs. Coach knew we were stealing them from opponents so he talked to teams who had them and clearly shared them.

You have various B1G teams unsolicitedly calling TCU to warn them about Michigan stealing signs, and you're not going to assume they're sharing other info?

It's fucking sick, but it is what it is. Goading the B1G commissioner today to punish us based off no evidence is taking it to another level. Again, our opponents are showing how deep in the shit they're willing to go.

I'm all for scorching the earth, but this needs to be settled on the field.

I mean if we wanted to complain we could say TCU knew which gaps were running through everytime and that is why we couldn't run inside zone but all that information can be learned by WATCHING MICHIGAN TAPE FROM THE SEASON LOL.

My memory of the TCU game is a bit fuzzy but I remember a lot of broken plays by that red headed QB being the difference.
 

Well we lost by 6. JJ threw two pick 6’s and we fumbled on the TCU 1 yard line following a play many believe Michigan should have been awarded a TD on. If we’re going to talk about “the difference” in that game, Duggan and broken plays aren’t what I’d go with