Quadfecta Watch for this weekend
With three major rivalries, the odds are pretty low that the perfect weekend will happen where we win and all three of them lose. But this weekend looks to have the best chance we've seen in a while.
Notre Dame is an underdog to Syracuse.
Michigan is a big favorite over MSU.
Unfortunately, Penn St. is an underdog to OSU despite playing at home.
Can any historians tell me if the Quadfecta has ever happened? I know we've gone 3-1 a few times.
October 27th, 2022 at 4:34 AM ^
Now THAT would be fantastic!!!!
October 27th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
I would like to see a #1 vs #2 The Game. That would require a couple of losses in the SEC.
October 27th, 2022 at 5:06 AM ^
I called that Penn State win a few years back. Not feeling it this year though. Penn state would need their own JJ to have a chance to win.
October 27th, 2022 at 7:21 AM ^
I subscribe to the theory that Penn State looked so I prepared for us because they spent the entire bye week prepping for OSU because they thought they had a better chance of beating them instead of us. Let's hope!
October 27th, 2022 at 5:42 AM ^
Who is Rutgers playing?
October 27th, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^
More importantly, who is Illinois playing?
October 27th, 2022 at 1:21 PM ^
Why is Rutgers playing?
October 27th, 2022 at 3:41 PM ^
What even is a Rutgers?
October 27th, 2022 at 6:07 AM ^
So (in order of scheduled game):
Notre Dame loses, Ohio State loses, and simultaneously Michigan wins while Sparty loses?
That would be a phenomenal college football weekend from Michigan's perspective.
I'm also curious about this. Has this ever happened? If so, when?
What about 3-1? If so, when?
For 3-0, I can only think of November 25th, 1995. (Michigan won, Ohio State lost in the Game; Sparty lost to Penn State; Notre Dame didn't have a game.)
October 27th, 2022 at 7:30 AM ^
I found 1 such example of the "Perfect Week" on 9/12/2009. MSU lost to CMU, OSU lost to USC, and the Good Guys beat ND!
There are likely more instances... I just stopped after finding this one.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:15 AM ^
working in finance, that was a rough time..... yet a week where lil bro was humiliated by a MAC team, ohio lost and we beat the domers..... that was a welcomed bright spot.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:53 AM ^
I remember that day well. I was in the hospital with my wife as they were deciding when to induce the delivery of our second child. Was a perfect week for me in multiple ways.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:15 AM ^
Great day that was!
I was in AA for the game. Remember hitching into a tailgate with a TV watching the last minutes of a Dan LaFevour led CMU march down the field on MSU and win (Antonio Brown was also on that CMU team).
Followed by my boys in Blue whooping Charlie Weis and Jimmy Clausen in a back and forth slug fest. Really thought Tate Forcier was going to be the real deal after that game.
Must have been pretty hammered because I do not recall the OSU/USC game......
October 27th, 2022 at 7:06 AM ^
It's definitely happened, although I can't come up with a specific example. Check years in which OSU was down, especially.
October 27th, 2022 at 7:33 AM ^
I'd rather see it happen on Nov. 26.
And it could. The key piece would be the Wolverines beating the Bucks. MSU plays at PSU that day, and Notre Dame is at USC.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
Why not both? It can be the year of eternal happiness, where BPONE is finally conquered!
October 27th, 2022 at 7:39 AM ^
Well, it seems as though, here, most are choosing to "cut off their nose to spite their face". Relative to Clemson jumping Michigan in the polls-Michigan fans should be rooting for ND. Relative to Penn State remaining in the running for a B1G Championship and CFP inclusion-Michigan fans should be rooting for OSU. Here, an OSU win does nothing to endanger Michigan's largest goals. The higher OSU is in the standings of the college football world when Michigan plays them the better. A Michigan win or narrow loss in Columbus at the end of November will be enhanced by an OSU win this Saturday. Here, I am rooting for Michigan's biggest and best interest-which include ND and OSU wins this weekend. This is a very easy call for me to make.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:06 AM ^
I think you're over-looking Michigan's odds of winning a 3-way tie-breaker at 1-1 with PSU and OSU. In that scenario, Michigan would be on track to take it on the basis of having Illinois on the schedule (ironic, but thus far true). And a 1-loss Big Ten champ is exceedingly unlikely to be excluded. PSU got excluded in 2016, but they had been (1) blown out by us and (2) also lost to Pitt.
So, I disagree with your nose-spiting premise. Our hearts and heads remain aligned; root against OSU.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:13 AM ^
agree - a PSU win gives us other paths to the B1G title
October 27th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
Wouldn't that make 2016 PSU a 2-loss Big Ten Champ?
October 27th, 2022 at 8:10 AM ^
I found it odd rooting for Iowa last week while knowing it did Michigan no good for them to lose.
Against PSU, it’s better for PSU to win as we might win the three way tiebreaker and go to the playoffs as 1 loss Big Ten champions in the unlikely case we lose to OSU.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:56 AM ^
I'd rather ND lose this week, then beat Clemson in a couple weeks with a .500 or losing record.
I'm rooting for PSU to lose a close game to OSU. That will help legitimize the top of the B1G East while keeping alive a top 3 matchup between undefeated teams in The Game.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:12 AM ^
That is cold, brutha. That is cold.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^
Ohio State could lose every damn game, and I would enjoy watching it just as much as they did when we sucked!
October 27th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^
It'll be a cold day in Kamchatka before I ever root for OSU or ND to win, much less both.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
Your analysis is more consistent with a pre 2000 pov which is to root only for what is best for Michigan. Emotions regarding rivals, like the OP’s post, should have nothing to do with rooting for or against rivals. Rather, we root for what is most likely to get us in the playoff.
1) Always root for a Big10 team in non conference play. The only exception might be an undefeated ohio team.
2) It’s not clear in the case of OSU vs PSU. In a 3 way tie M might have an advantage. On the other hand, the loser of a close The Game among two undefeated teams has a good shot at the playoffs. If Clemson loses 3) ND is down. We need a stronger ND to knock out Clemson.
October 27th, 2022 at 7:40 AM ^
I would really enjoy seeing an undefeated Wolverine team dominate a #1 ranked OSU team in the shoe this year.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:58 AM ^
I would really enjoy an undefeated Wolverine team dominate an unranked OSU team in the shoe this year.
October 27th, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
damn - that is a spot on response
October 27th, 2022 at 8:40 AM ^
I feel like we've seen 3 losses before but I can't remember a time with all 4. Would be nice to see.
Also, would be a hell of a parlay.
October 27th, 2022 at 8:53 AM ^
Beat Staee!!!
October 27th, 2022 at 1:23 PM ^
I love that the MSU one is smaller.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:19 AM ^
I have no hope for psu but my Lord wouldn't that be amazing if somehow they won and Michigan won? Talk about euphoria.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:20 AM ^
ND will beat Syracuse
OSU will pound PSU
Michigan will have a close, nail-biting victory over MSU
October 27th, 2022 at 9:24 AM ^
Since some people have already pointed it out, for the lions fans out there, can we add in a lions win on Sunday to this? Seems like it would have had to happen but the lions I think add a bit more intrigue to the discussion with their ineptitude.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:24 AM ^
How do the outcomes of 3 games equate to a quadfecta instead of a trifecta?
October 27th, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^
I believe its MGoPodcast lore that a Michigan win combined with Ohio State losses and a Michigan State loss (three outcomes) is the Michigan Trifecta and if you add a Notre Dame loss to it, its the Michigan Superfecta (four outcomes -- "quadfecta" isn't a thing).
This particular hypothetical week could produce the four outcomes but on only three games since Michigan plays one of the other relative parties.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:53 AM ^
Just to clarify....
a Michigan win combined with Ohio State losses and a Michigan State win (three outcomes) is the Michigan Trifecta
How is a Michigan State win good?
October 27th, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^
Whoops. EDITed.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:52 AM ^
FIFY
That's a pretty thin rationale. What the OP described is simply a trifecta, ain't no quad about it. Toss in a Bama, Tennessee, or Clemson loss and now you're talking quadfecta.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:28 AM ^
OSU losing, won't matter, because we still need to beat them, to go forward in the Big Ten and into the playoff.
October 27th, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^
We can hope they lose to PSU and then lose a trap game at Maryland the week before The Game, can't we??
October 27th, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^
The OP's thread title immediately made me think of the Quad Stacker from Burger King. Not really a BK fan, haven't been to one in years, but when I was in high school, hoo boy those were a huge go-to for me. Which probably explains why I was overweight in high school. Shoot, now I could really go for a Quad Stacker. Thanks, OP. Now my morning is ruined.
/s
We'll see what we get from ND. They did go beat BYU the other week and I felt like they turned a corner, but then lost to Stanford and had an uninspiring UNLV win. Hoping they can do something, ANYTHING, against Clemson.
I don't have much faith in Penn State to pull off the upset. They're better equipped to handle OSU's passing attack than they were Michigan's running attack. I was listening to CFB Nerds Preview this week for OSU/PSU and I was shocked at how statistically mediocre PSU's rush defense was, even prior to the Michigan game. But their pass defense is up there, and they've got some dudes at corner, so who knows, maybe they can at least mitigate what OSU will try to do. But unfortunately, even if PSU's defense puts up a fight, I don't see their offense being able to do much. They had a generational talent with Barkley in that 2016 upset, and Penn State opted to play that game at night. For some reason, they didn't do that this year. A white out night game is probably worth a TD by itself for Penn State, but they did themselves no favors by making this a noon game. PSU always plays OSU close at home in those night games.
Probably wouldn't have mattered, but why not give yourself every possible advantage against arguably the best team in the conference?
October 27th, 2022 at 9:42 AM ^
Why was there not.... How was there not a hate week hype video posted yet?
October 27th, 2022 at 9:48 AM ^
One play, series, and game at a time.
A Blue Out seems quite appropriate for this team, and Michigan. (Though, a Buckeye loss to Penn State really doesn't mean anything to determine the B1G East champ unless the Bucks lose a second game, which - I don't think they will do. Though a Bucks loss in both this game, as well as @ Maryland, wouldn't cause me any angst.)
Go Blue!
October 27th, 2022 at 10:24 AM ^
I went back as far as the 1997 season. It's only happened twice:
Sep 12, 2009: OSU lost to USC, MSU lost to CMU, Michigan beat Notre Dame
Oct 2, 2004 (edit): OSU lost to Northwestern(!), MSU lost to Iowa, ND lost to Purdue, Michigan beat Indiana
October 27th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^
2004, not 2005. I remember watching Northwestern beat OSU. Epic.
October 27th, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^
2018 we beat MSU and Purdue throttled OSU. 2011 Both MSU and OSU lost (MSU’s loss was to ND). That’s to my knowledge the last two times that occurred.
I’m thinking it happens this year last game of the year with USC beating ND, Penn St beating MSU, and the good guys winning in Columbus