OT:Bigfoot
Hey everyone. I have had Bigfoot discussions with a lot of people so I thought on a boring day with not much going on, why not see what the Mgoblog community thinks about the topic.
I am a believer, but not sure if Bigfoot is extinct, supernatural or has somehow just managed to stay hidden (government cover up potentially). I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I always like to keep an open mind on ALL topics.
I have a hard time believing that American Indians and many other indigenous peoples have made up these stories for so many years. Yes, I think a lot of people who come up with sightings are full of it or crazy, but that doesn’t settle the debate in my opinion.
Some of the areas I have spent time in where I could definitely see this thing hiding out are East Texas (nothing for miles and miles and plenty of Forrest. Crawford County Michigan, East Tennessee and areas in Central California near Sequoia National Park.
Do you think Bigfoot could be real? Still today? Supernatural? ( I always keep an open mind to this).
What do you think of my observations?
What areas have you been to in this country or world for that matter where something like this could elude humans?
Last note, The Patterson Gimlin film still looks real to me. The suits they make nowadays are not even close to how real that thing looked.
Take it easy, everyone.
Your statements DO NOT match your name at all.
Definitely irony - I always joke about "drinking the Kool-Aid" but find it nearly impossible to buy into something without insurmountable facts.
From what I’ve seen on his tape, pad level is an issue.
Not a bender at all.
That was his junior film. Check out his senior film.
I can’t be convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald acted at all. That was a mob hit.
And Ruby was the clean-up guy
Absolutely he was. Kill the guy that won't be around to say he didn't do it.
Isn't it basically proven that Oswald didnt work alone, but just not known who 2nd shooter is?
That's a good question. My impression (based on a cursory review of theories) is that two shooters is considered proven because a number of fairly smart people really believe it to be true. I've never seen any evidence that "proves" that there were two shooters.
Again, though, this knowledge is neither extensive nor up-to-date, so I'd love to hear more.
Read 'The Devil's Chessboard', by David Talbot. You'll gain a whole new appreciation about what probably happened surrounding the events in Dallas that day. It's a biography of John Foster Dulles.
Depends who you ask. The government wrote it off as a single shooter thing and closed the book on it.
Oswald was definitely at the TX School Book Depository. And he had peripheral dealings with gangsters. I can't be convinced he was in the 6th floor window. Oswald definitely had a screw loose. Fascinating historical event, at minimum.
I think there was a mob hitman in the 6th floor window and another beyond the grassy knoll. I think JFK was hit from two different directions. I also believe it was a retaliation for the Kennedy family coming down on the mob, who rigged the election for JFK. Chicago and New Orleans families of the mob, primarily. And there are accounts that Oswald was actually in the lunch room of the school book depository when the shots were fired. The circumstances around him allegedly killing the cop JD Tippett are even stranger. I don't believe that Oswald was entirely innocent, and I think he was involved in something he shouldn't have been, but I can't be convinced he pulled a trigger that day.
I have no 'authority' on this matter other than a bunch of reading and some watching of different accounts.
All fair points. I personally believe that aliens have to exist just because, statistically speaking, the odds of us being alone in a vast and infinite universe are small. Some other planet somewhere in a vast ocean of billions of galaxies, with an infinitely higher number of solar systems, has to be within a similar habitable zone to ours. Hell, I believe there is other life within our own galaxy. There's possibly over 200 billion stars in the Milky Way alone. Even if 0.00001% of those solar systems had a planet in a habitable zone, that's still 200 different planets out there that could support life. Perhaps extremely advanced life far beyond our own current capabilities.
But until we can physically prove they exist, I will readily admit that's all I have to go by. Just personal belief.
Presumed infinite universe ;)
I'm with you on 9/11, but the problem is that the way in which the buildings fell violate all laws of physics. You could do experiment after experiment and could never re-create that result. So that always makes me question things.
Didn't they fall straight down, following the gravitational law of physics?
buildings fall straight down like that all the time. YouTube proves that.
I believe that these legends and things become such a phenomenon because we can't explain everything. And so people fill in the gaps in our knowledge with their best guess of what is happening. Does a lot of ridiculous stuff get poured in those gaps? Yes. But, we don't really know everything that's out there. Nor can we definitively say what someone else saw.
It's possible that the answer could be somewhere between 'these things don't exist' on one end and the kookiest explanations on the other.
The recent revelations about the Navy's reporting of UFOs are very interesting. It doesn't prove anything but its a big deal - our military is actually acknowledging that there are things in our airspace that they cannot explain. Again - this creates a new gap in our understanding of the world and we can only make educated guesses as to what it might be: the Russians? Chinese? A secret program from within our own military? Beings from another planet or dimension? Could be - the point is: we don't know for sure. But this is a long way from 'there's no such thing as UFOs' and 'people who see these things are insane' and 'it's a trick of the eye.'
The absence of evidence is not necessarily the evidence of absence. It's a big-ass universe out there and we'll learn a lot more about it in the near future and maybe we'll find the answers to these questions.
(for the record, I'm generally not onboard with Bigfoot - I think someone would've shot it or hit with a pickup truck by now. But then again who really knows? Also - I think 9/11 truthers are irresponsible and flat-earthers are flat-out stupid).
Can Bigfoot play LT?
I will only believe one exists if a wolverine is videoed with a ripped off head in its mouth, sauntering along a path in the forest.
Bigfoot lives!
There's actually a family of 8 of them living in Pacific, MO and traveling all over the country all year long.
The oldest one is 44 years old and has feet up to 66 inches in diameter!
Grave Digger today, Grave Digger tomorrow, Grave Digger forever. 
It's a shame the Bigfoot vs. Grave Digger rivalry barely gets to happen anymore.
My girlfriend's dad swears he saw it on a hunting trip in Canada
End. Of. Thread.
Girlfriend!!?..........
“You wouldn’t know her, she’s from Canada.”
That would've been a Samsquatch sir...if in Canada.
bigfoot, like the loch ness monster, doesn't exist. Funny now that everyone has a camera in their pocket, these legends are never found.
Not trying to be a dick, but the "everyone has a camera" argument is incredibly weak. The vast majority of "everyone" never sets foot on the majority of acreage on the entire face of the planet. As a result the idea that a small # of rare creatures can inhabit our planet without being photographed by humans is not only plausible, it happens quite frequently.
How many of the rare creatures found "all the time" are 2x the size of a normal human?
I'm not saying it isn't plausible, or even possible.
There's just not one spec of evidence.
But they supposedly exist in North America and even the US. Some people in here act like there are vast swathes of America that just go completely unmonitored and it's absolutely not true.
There is very little inhabitable land area that remains unexplored, and virtually none in the U.S. But maybe they’re all hiding in a ditch in Wyoming.
High res Infrared satellite imaging.
Do you have any idea how many trail cams hunters and parks departments have set all over this country?
I agree with this. There's the stat that 95% of the world's population lives on 10% of the total land. The millions of people in large cities are automatically disqualified from the "everyone has phones" argument, so you're really just talking about a small handful of people that live in rural areas and carry phones on them when they are out in the woods.
I think Bigfoot could exist, but I know the Loch Ness Monster is fake. They've done a scan of the entire Loch Ness and found nothing, and there is also not enough fish in the water to maintain an animal of that size
I saw an interesting documentary as a kid in the 80s where big foot is adopted by a family, so no you are not crazy.
Link for anyone interested.
That was a gripping saga that made ET look like science fiction.
Yeah I saw one too about a six million dollar man kicking the shit out of a bigfoot one time. Bionic vs alien bigfoot. Good shit Steve.
He was really cool when voiced by Hugh Jackman in Missing Link! So there's that
I believe in Bigfoot as much as I believe in religion, which is none.
You don't believe that some people believe in and worship a higher power?
Now if bigfoot appeared in church he might believe.
Some of the areas I have spent time in where I could definitely see this thing hiding out are East Texas (nothing for miles and miles and plenty of Forrest.
I'm from southeast Texas and I can confirm that the East Texas hill country has no shortage of Forrests. They still revere Nathan Bedford Forrest and name their kids after him because he started that wholesale bedsheet club they like so much.
Stupid is as stupid does
There are "hills" in East Texas? I thought it was just an extension of the Louisiana swamp!
Need to go.
Come on! We all know Tim Peeler saw Bigfoot in North Carolina.
If this doesn't convince you, I don't know what will.
Nope. There's no possible way a population of creatures such as "bigfoot" exist... not in North America anyway. There are literally millions of motion sensing game cameras throughout the continent constantly surveying some of our wildest areas... and guess what? No bigfoot.
Millions in North America? Source? That sounds too high. Yes though, there are a lot of motion sensing cameras for wildlife research, and apparently hunting.
No one will ever read this because I'm posting a month later but...
Since I was a kid, I've always thought that some strange things could live in the (sometimes very large) medians between divided highways. They'd be almost completely undisturbed aside from the road noise and the occasional emergency vehicle turnaround. No foot traffic, no hunting, etc.
Some medians in North America are more than 2 miles wide. A few examples of wide ones for the 0 people reading this: