OT: Wagner Chief Prigozhin Believed Dead in Completely Accidental and Non-Suspicious Plane Crash
Multiple outlets reporting Yevgeny Prigozhin was on board a small plane with 7 passengers and 3 crew that crashed while en route to Moscow from St. Petersburg. LINK
It's believed the plane may have slipped and fallen out of a window on a high floor.
Check the wagers you made when the "Wagner Group Rebellion" occurred June 23-24. If you had "he survives 60 days or fewer" you still cover. I took the early line at 30 days and bet the under so I'm out $100.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
His days were numbered. He should've gone to Africa, where he'd would've been protected by his forces there. It'll be interesting to see what happens in Africa now. There's a power vacuum, which gives the West an opportunity.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:57 PM ^
Maybe this is actually part of a plan to do just that. If everyone thinks he's dead it would be easier for him to hide.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:59 PM ^
If the new head of Wagner is Pevgeny Yrighozin, you just might be on to something here.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
Yes, since the West has done so well filling power vacuums in other countries. 🙄
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^
Africa was where Wagner was making their money. Not sure if operations change much. I doubt Putin as the reach to change much there. May be more of a fiefdom-ization of Wagner operations.
I suspect Ukrainian operations are in for a shake-up. Another mutiny, more chaotic than the last, could be in the cards.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
They Yamamoto’d his ass. No, wait, they Rommel’d him.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
Took too long.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^
How ironic.
August 23rd, 2023 at 5:04 PM ^
And as the plane crashed down, he thought
"Well, isn't this nice"
August 23rd, 2023 at 10:20 PM ^
I saw an article that said the last radio communication from the pilot was “It’s like raaaaaiiaaaaiinnn…”
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^
Faked his own death. Genius
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:11 PM ^
Did his food taster die too?
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:15 PM ^
I’m sure they bet on this at Iowa and Iowa State…
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
What else would they bet on - Iowa vs Iowa St?
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:19 PM ^
Article says he was on the passenger list, not the plane. Big difference there.
This whole saga has been so soap opera that I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a “but he survived! And escaped with a wig and mustache! And lived happily ever after in…ummm…Belarus…” coda.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:35 PM ^
This whole saga has been so soap opera that I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a “but he survived! And escaped with a wig and mustache! And lived happily ever after in…ummm…Belarus…”
Right? I could see this working out for both Prigozhin and Putin. Putin gets to look tough again by having everyone belive he got revenge, and Prighozin gets to dissappear quietly out of the spotlight.
A plane crash with no identifiable body seems like an optimal way to get that done, innocent victims be damned.
August 24th, 2023 at 8:20 AM ^
In Putin’s Russia, where nothing is true and everything is possible, it’s not far fetched. Even less far fetched is that Prigozhin in fact died but they’ll make it look like it may have been a staged psyop just to keep people on uncertain ground. That is the bent of Muscovite propaganda: to maintain perpetual disease and uncertainty among the population, to obliterate the notion of truth as something capable of being verified.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
So then how surprised would you be to learn that there was a second plane, also owned by Prigozhin, that landed safely in Moscow shortly after the first one crashed...
I'm going to put my money on "Prigozhin arranged for the first plane to be shot down, to create a diversion that would allow him to land on the second plane and escape Putin's grip".
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:01 PM ^
Is this a legit source?
(Not trolling here, I honestly don't know)
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^
The Twitter account itself is fairly reliable, as far as I know. But I'm taking all of this information with a huge grain of salt.
To be clear, I was mostly being facetious about Prigozhin arranging for his own plane to be shot down to fake his death. All of this is pretty bizarre, but if reports are getting out that his body has been identified in the wreckage...well, it's hard to refute that. (But then, I also question who is releasing the information to the media saying he has been identified. Hence the grains of salt.)
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
Yeah him faking his death reads like it's straight out of a bad hack job short story that any creative writing teacher would flunk sight unseen, but then again so is.... waves hands wildly at everything in sight.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^
I need to see this coming from a reputable source, and not some random account on Twitter no offense. There is too much misinformation / disinformation out there, and too many accounts with blue checks that aren't legit.
August 23rd, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^
It’s coming from a *lot* of sources. Including Wagner-linked places.
August 23rd, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
The second plane was flying in the *opposite* direction, from St Pete to Moscow.
You are delusional.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:24 PM ^
The fact that he would get on a plane ever again is crazy (at least within Russia). The fact that OTHER people would get on a plane with that guy is maybe even crazier.
*Also not completely sure he was on the plane.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Damn. I had him falling out a window in the office pool.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
Got eem.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^
Did he accidentally fall out of the airplane window shortly before the crash?
August 23rd, 2023 at 5:29 PM ^
Yes he fell out of plane but it vas accident. He try take photo of field and push self-destruction button by accident. That vill happen...
August 23rd, 2023 at 9:42 PM ^
Tell them eet is vork of Moose and Squirrel.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
The most surprising aspect to this is 9 other people were willing to get on a plane, in Russian airspace, with this guy.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
My thoughts exactly. If I'm saying "Honey, I'm heading out on a business trip with my boss -- you know, Yevgeny Prigozhin -- see you at the end of the week," I'm also saying "And for no particular reason, I've been meaning to tell you that you can find all of our financial passwords in a file in my sock drawer."
August 23rd, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
Ding-ding!
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:55 PM ^
Not just Prigozhin but Commander Utkin, whose love of Nazi culture inspired the Wagner name, also died in crash.
August 24th, 2023 at 11:15 AM ^
Stuff of nightmares.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^
8 bodies found from a plane with a 10-person manifest?
I’d bet he was never on that plane…but he’s dead nonetheless.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:08 PM ^
Putin: "Move along folks, nothing to see here. That is not a plane crash, its a bon-fire for roasting marshmellows".
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:27 PM ^
Dude has a ton of body doubles so was he even on the plane.
August 23rd, 2023 at 4:59 PM ^
I had the under at 90 days. Winner!
August 23rd, 2023 at 5:11 PM ^
Thoughts and prayers. Only Putin could make him into a sympathetic figure. (With apologies to noted board poster...)
August 23rd, 2023 at 5:13 PM ^
We finally have an answer to the age old question “what air defense doing?”.
August 23rd, 2023 at 6:20 PM ^
Prigozhin was so distraught that he shot himself in the head, twice. One of the bullets ricocheted, striking both the pilot and the copilot, and the plane just happened to careen into a live fire SAM exercise area. Very tragic...
August 23rd, 2023 at 6:30 PM ^
Occurred to me that he may have also faked his own death. Though most likely he was assassinated. Not sure how he could have thought this would end any other way.
August 23rd, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^
Putin is really slipping: Offing Prigozhin took a lot longer than I expected.
August 23rd, 2023 at 7:12 PM ^
What to do with a country like Russia. Easily the greatest political and military threat to mankind.
August 23rd, 2023 at 9:19 PM ^
China has entered the chat
August 23rd, 2023 at 11:36 PM ^
3,2,1…it was obviously the Ukrainians behind this.