OT: Terrell Owens doesn't make NFL HoF again...
Downright disrespectful at this point.
LaDanian Tomlinson, Kurt Warner, Jerry Jones, Terrell Davis, Jason Taylor and Morten Anderson made it in.
So the writers thought that Morten Anderson, a kicker, deserved to get in before TO? Just ridiculous.
I know he was a douche as a player, but that has nothing to do with his credentials for the hall.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:45 PM ^
February 4th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
Pretty ridiculous. The guy's numbers speak for themselves. Yeah, he was a douchebag, but never failed a drug test, was never arrested, etc....
I'm more upset that Ty Law didn't get in this round. A kicker over Ty Law. Come on.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:50 PM ^
I mean no disrespect to Morten Anderson, but come on, unless you're Adam Vinatieri level I have a hard time believing you deserve it over a top 3 WR all time.
February 5th, 2017 at 7:30 AM ^
I have a bigger problem with TD getting in over TO. TD was good while he played, but he didn't play that long. He played 4 full seasons and then 17 games in his last 3 seasons. To be a HOF'er you need longevity to go along with the greatness IMO.
At least Morten Anderson was one of the best kickers every year for a long long time. Shit he played for 23 seasons - that is crazy. He is not as deserving as TO but way more deserving than TD.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
Morten Andersen deserves to be in though. He's the NFL's all-time leading scorer. Sure, TO deserves to be in, but I don't think Morten getting in is a problem.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
February 4th, 2017 at 10:05 PM ^
annoying about Odell?
February 4th, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^
Also obligatory:
February 4th, 2017 at 8:54 PM ^
Morten Anderson deserves to get it in.
I think TO eventually will too.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:54 PM ^
I would pick Owens over Terrell Davis. Davis only had three "great" seasons and that was while playing with Elway and a Denver team that had a great offensive line.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:14 PM ^
February 4th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^
when Davis was going he was unreal. I'll take 3 years Davis's 3 great seasons over nearly any other 3 season stretch ever.
February 5th, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
Those three years were 1996, 1997, and 1998. Unquestionably terrific.
Barry Sanders outrushed Davis two out of those three years, on a team that was... not as good.
February 4th, 2017 at 8:57 PM ^
February 4th, 2017 at 9:04 PM ^
Try, try again.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:56 PM ^
Taunint, disrespect, arrogance... everything I dislike about athlete behavior. And yet I loved this sequence when it happened, and I still love it today.
Guess I'm just not consistent on this. Oh well, loop it again.
February 4th, 2017 at 10:15 PM ^
So brilliant he broke how you think/moralize about football. The Cowboys too - they signed him!
February 4th, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^
It was charismatic jackassery. Like, I'm not sure that I'd want any of my home team players acting that way, but it was still a spectacle to behold that kind of behavior from afar.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:04 PM ^
February 4th, 2017 at 9:11 PM ^
That is wonderful and all, but the facts are that is second all time in receiving yards (15,934) and third all time in touchdowns (153). He also played through a major injury in the super bowl and would have won the MVP in that game if the Eagles won. If you are to judge if he belongs, those numbers speak for themselves, at least to logical voters
February 5th, 2017 at 2:01 AM ^
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February 4th, 2017 at 10:14 PM ^
I heard Kurt Warner was a jerk at bagging groceries. Breads beneath things, eggs ajar, cold beverages sweating through paper bags. Just awful.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:05 PM ^
If he makes the HoF, fine. He has great numbers. But if he doesn't, I don't really care. He's as self centered as it gets.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
I understand your argument, but the problem is that being elected to the HOF is about how you performed on the field, not your personality off of it. He deserves to be in.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:06 PM ^
It is even more of an abomination when Terrell Davis and his short career gets in...how does one vote for him but not Owens...
February 4th, 2017 at 10:32 PM ^
That is my thought, he played 7 seasons, after the 4th where he rushed for 2000 yards, he played a total of 17 games and rushed for 1200 yards and 4 TDs. Essentially he got in based upon 1 exceptional year and the fact that his career was cut short due to injury. He gets in, and an all-time top 3 numbers wise does not. That is a joke.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:32 PM ^
Morton Anderson's induction means that Adam Viniatieri just went from "good chance he's the first kicker in forever to get in" to "stone cold lead pipe mortal lock." Which I am ok with.
Warner and Davis getting in together is appropriate, if it can be said Davis belongs there at all (I personally don't think so, but Davis was successful at a time in the career of Barry Sanders and a time of my life in which I am completely, utterly, and totally irrationally biased against him and cannot render an objective opinion. But Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson both had huge seasons behind that OL after Davis got hurt and their zone-blocking philosophy completely took over football, and he had John Elway and Shannon Sharpe and Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith on the same offense, so maybe Davis was just in the right place at the right time and oh man I'm doing it again sorry).
Both Warner and Davis had smaller windows in which their production was HOF worthy, but they were astonishingly productive in those windows. I was a huge Warner fan from the moment that SI "Who Is This Guy?" cover dropped in 1999, so if Davis getting in is the trade I have to make, I will take it.
But the HOF committee, which I generally respect and think does things well, has a serious receiver problem. Davis might deserve entry, but not over Owens. And the NFL is increasingly becoming a passing-dominated league, and there are already a ton of great receivers coming down the pike. And guys like Owens were on the forefront of it. They need to induct these guys.
February 5th, 2017 at 7:37 AM ^
I agree that Viniatieri gets in no doubt. Eddie Murray and Jason Hanson were two of the best kickers also for the Lions and were in place for most of my lifetime. Benny Ricardo was the kicker when I was 6 years old followed by Murray and Hanson. Hanson retired when I was 42. Those two won't get in, but they would be on the next tier of the greatest kickers of all time IMO. Just wanted to throw a little love their way as they often get forgotten.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:34 PM ^
Yeah, I don't get this either - we can debate Terrell Owens the person all we want, but I don't think anything that he's been or done speaks louder than the numbers that he put up in his NFL career. That he can't seem to make it into the Hall Of Fame is just ridiculous at this point, in my own opinion.
February 4th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^
Maybe his numbers warrant him getting in, and I won't debate his talent. But he's a self centered diva who made more headlines off the field than he did on the field. And he never won a Super Bowl.
Moving on.
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February 4th, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^
You could argue the that unprofessionalism and locker room cancer somewhat mitigate individual statistics in terms of wins and losses. Not saying that's for sure specifically true to him but it's worth looking accessing.
February 4th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^
Ok, Skip. Did his teams lose a game for every 100 situps in the driveway? 1,000?
He did snipe at McNabb a few times to be fair, but so did the Eagles (before McNabb handled all of the reputation damage himself late in his career). The worst thing about TO's behavior was the absurd moralizing by pundits.
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February 5th, 2017 at 2:50 AM ^
they make a story line for a player (either he's a good, hard workin' joe, or a bad me-first diva) and then every story revolves around that same stupid story line. like anyone here knows what kind of "teammate" he was. even so, it's not a 'best fucking teammate' hall, it's about production on the damn field. and TO was legend. worked damn hard and could ball. end of story.
February 5th, 2017 at 6:11 AM ^
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February 5th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
The dude was a complete DICK his entire career to the very people who vote on the HOF and people wonder why they are sticking it to him now? Election to the HOF is vote by people, people with emotions and memories, of who they "feel" deserves entry. It's not empirical by any means (see the sheer number of Minnesota Vikings from the 70s not in versus the Steelers from the same era and compare their lifetime stats) and yes - personal agendas do play a role.
FWIW let Owens serve as a learning lesson to anyone still in college. Once you start your career be nice to people on the way up cause you very well may pass them again on the way back down.