Tunneler

June 23rd, 2017 at 12:35 AM ^

Just want you to know that I have enjoyed your posts lately.  Someone said that you were brown-nosing for a moderator position a while back.  

And I say: Here Here!

You have been brown nosing for the position, & deserve an unpaid (at first) internship.

Case in point:  You suggested Obama for honorary captain at the OSU game.  And we win the game!

Gold

 

 

Tunneler

August 1st, 2017 at 11:50 PM ^

My point?

I think it would be great for recruiting if Obama was Honorary Captain for The Game won by the good guys.  Sorry it got lost in clumsy attempt at humourous translation. George would be sad.

No trolling, I thought Mr. Yost's post on another thread was gold.

stephenrjking

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^

ASU hasn't seriously competed in the Pac 12 under Graham and the field has been wide open with USC and UCLA both failing to reach their potential for most of his time there. ASU isn't Michigan or anything but they do care about football and they want to win, and he's not even in the top tier of his conference.

 

JHendo

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:17 PM ^

ASU cares about football? I must've missed that in the 5 years I lived literally right down the street from Sun Devil stadium in Tempe. I never once got the impression it was ever more than a social gathering with football simply in the background for students, alumni and other "fans" alike...to go along with general apathy from the athletic dept and administration.

ElBictors

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:30 PM ^

That's sort of my point. As someone who travels to AZ often and for 12yrs now, I think it's a stretch to say either is in a Hot Seat. I do agree ASU got a taste, but neither program has the BS arrogance of ND or A&M when it comes to 'pressure and expectations'

Blueblood2991

June 22nd, 2017 at 10:55 PM ^

The positive side is that signing day isn't until after the season. If their seat gets hotter, there's a good chance there will be some decommits.

Although I'm not going to lie, I want Kelly there in 2018 so Harbaugh can make him turn purple.

WolverineHistorian

June 23rd, 2017 at 12:29 AM ^

Indeed. ND fellatio often involves picking convenient years and numbers. In this case, they point out that Notre Dame has won fewer than 5 games in a season only 5 times since 1950. But they have also won no more than 5 games in a season a total of 17 times since 1950. So it's not COMPLETELY unusual for them to suck an entire season. We remember Weiss, Willingham, Davie and that time they hired Gerry Faust because of what a dominant high school coach he was, That worked out well.

mtzlblk

June 23rd, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^

by M losing recruiting battles to Mora has never been to Westwood. We aren't losing to Mora, we ARE losing to Westwood/L.A. and the allure of SoCal/Hollywood. If you imagine what a recruit from some non -descript part of the country probably gets to see and do in L.A. on a recruiting trip...and I don't mean just the women, though there is that and these are 17 year-old males, UCLA is hardly a terrible choice.

Mr. Yost

June 22nd, 2017 at 10:52 PM ^

Brian Kelly is an odd one...but it's ND. Mora...ugh, how we keep losing recruits to them is insane.

Sumlin doesn't make much sense until you consider he coaches in the SEC. I don't like the guy, but it could be a lot worse and they're not going to find anything better.

Butch Jones is on the hot seat every year just like Sumlin.

 

Farnn

June 22nd, 2017 at 10:57 PM ^

Funny they say that ND is a tougher job than those they compete with because of academic issues when they play Stanford annually. 

stephenrjking

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^

Yeah, that got overplayed. Stanford takes academics and discipline seriously, too, and they win. I will say this in ND's defense: It's hard to get into like Stanford, without being Stanford. I don't know exactly what the respective rankings are, but if you're a quality football player that can get into both places, and you're thinking seriously about your education, how is Stanford not a better choice? It's got a GREAT academic rep and people who go there are wildly successful in their chosen professional fields. 

That said, the problem with ND isn't academics; it's Brian Kelly.

Tuebor

June 23rd, 2017 at 8:32 AM ^

Depends on circumstances I suppose.  A catholic kid from Chicago land that gets into both Stanford and ND is probably going to chose ND.  A california kid from the bay area is probably going to chose Stanford. 

 

Stanford is a great school no doubt about that, but I get the sense that an ND Degree probably carries more weight in the midwest.  

Tuebor

June 23rd, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

Culturally in the midwest if you look at professional networks, etc. An ND degree will probably get your further than a Stanford Degree.  Especially in the legal profession or financial industry.

 

There is no doubt that Stanford is a higher ranked school.  But there is more to it than raw rankings.  For example, Ohio State is a higher ranked school than Colorado State, but if I were looking for work in the Front Range Urban Corridor I think I'd rather have a degree from Colorado State.  Kind of an odd example I will admit.

 

So if I wanted to get into tech, and work in silicon valley then Stanford wins hands down.  If I wanted to be lawyer in Chicago then ND wins hands down.  

cheesheadwolverine

June 22nd, 2017 at 10:58 PM ^

Funny as ND being 4-8 was, I think Bill C had them like top-30 or so on advanced stats, so I assume they had a lot of bad luck which will revert to the mean for BK.

Kliff Kingsbury still having a job never ceases to amaze.  Is he just too goddamn handsome to be fired or what?

Mr. Yost

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:05 PM ^

It's Texas Tech.

You have to think to yourself...do they have a better option?

They fire him and who do they hire?

Well now I suppose they can say fuck any little bit of moral compass and get Art Briles. But realistically they're about Sonny Cumbie or Kendal Briles. A coordinator. Are those options THAT much different from Kingsbury?

If it's Texas or Texas A&M...I get it, but realize we're talking about TTU in Lubbock effing Texas. All they can do is hire the next hot OC who knows how to run the wide open Texas HS offense.

Mr. Yost

June 22nd, 2017 at 11:40 PM ^

Agree 100%...

That said, he was the best of the OC types.

Lincoln Riley at OU is a lot different than Lincoln Riley at TTU. That's kind of my point, you have to know who you are.

Even though he may be a slightly better coach, is it enough to move the needle for Texas Tech? At the end of the day, they're still Texas Tech.

stephenrjking

June 23rd, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^

Maybe with "the occasional year where they (compete to) win the Big 12."

Basically their ceiling under Leach, and about the best they can hope for with any coach that's not some kind of miracle. In their best season they still wound up out of the conference title game and the BCS thanks to the Big 12 rules prioritizing BCS standings (that was the year of the incredible Michael Crabtree TD catch to beat Texas--they also got smoked by Oklahoma, who themselves lost to Texas).