OT: Sports Illustrated's college football coaches on the hot seat
A few coaches of interest here:
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/06/21/coaches-hot-seat-most-pr…
Like amazing in that you can't stop watching this afront to major college football. Patrick Mahomes passes for 600 yds and 6 TDs but Kingsbury's defense gives up 700 yds and 7 TDs to the opposing QB to lose 63-60. It's amazing to see but also awful. Texas Tech can probably do better, or at minimum they can force Kingsbury to hire a competent DC
Freeze is just keeping the seat warm right now; they know he'll be fired, but why hire the next guy when they're still dealing with all of these penalties when they can keep Freeze on and hire a guy when he actually has a chance to win? He's a lame duck.
I'm surprised that Butch Jones is so far down the list. The program has been embarrassed off the field, and after the luckiest half-season I've ever seen in college football to begin the year, they settled into mediocrity for the rest of the year. Tennessee is a good enough program to compete to win the SEC East every year and they haven't come close and probably won't while Jones is there. I doubt he makes it to 2018.
I think UA is probably a lot less interested in firing Richrod than people nationally think they are. Butch Jones not only sucks as a coach, but is also an embarassment to the university with persecuting whistleblowers and handing out the ol' Champions of Life rings. I feel like anything short of a double digit win season probably sees Butch gone
I won't touch the off-field stuff, because UT doesn't seem to care about that. And FWIW, I agree with you 100% that he is a bad coach.
However, he's led them to 9 wins the last two years. The last time Tennessee had won 9 games was 2006.
After the failed experiments with Lane Kiffin and Dooley, I think they might be a little skittish to fire him if he doesn't win 10 games like you said. After RR and Hoke, say we hired someone else and they win 9 games. Do you go on your 4th coaching search in a decade or do you give another year? It's a tough call because they don't have a Harbaugh in the waiting.
That's a valid counterpoint, though I don't think 9 wins is what Tennessee fans envision as success, and I don't see him ever doing much better than that.
Plus, they lose some key players, like Josh Dobbs.
On the upside, they also shed their anchor OC Mike Debord.
So who knows? Maybe the offense improves this year.
Rich Rod is gone.
He just has a huge buyout and it's not really worth it (now).
But he's especially gone now that he has a new boss who didn't hire him. It just all depends on how much money they want to eat.
I think I read he had a $9M buyout last year...not sure how much that goes down this year. But it's Arizona...you're not paying a football coach $9M to go away unless Saban, Harbaugh, Meyer, Petersen, etc. are coming. We know that's never happening.
Again, whenever people want to talk about firing a coach...I first ask who are you hiring?
Who is Arizona hiring? And when they hire that person...is it worth a $9M buyout? Hell no.
Realistically Arizona gets what as a head coach? Bryan Harsin? Sonny Cumbie? Tim Drevno? Lane Kiffin? Rocky Long?
Any of those names worth $3M...let alone $9M? Not at all. So you keep what you have and hope for the best.
Rodriguez comes into this season squarely on the hot seat after going 4-14 in the Pac-12 the last two years...
I'd be surprised to see Dawkins last the entire season at QB given that whomever is back there is going to take a lot of hits, but also because the offense is going to struggle brutally again against competent defenses who get to pin them back with poor starting field position. Rodriguez will be coaching for his job so he'll have a short leash, especially if a game starts to get out of hand at home.
If you were to call out one of these games as a must win for Rodriguez it is probably the UTEP game. That seems like a low bar, but Arizona isn't likely to be good enough to just show up and beat the Miners on the road and a loss probably gets Rodriguez fired mid-season.
The other key for Rodriguez to keep his job through the end of the season is not getting blown out, especially at home. Arizona wasn't like UCLA last year; unlucky and struggling on one side of the ball, but talented. Arizona was just mostly non-competitive in conference play last year and there is a danger that will be the case again. Outside of the offensive backfield Arizona has not recruited Power 5 level talent under Rodriguez and you can see the team's deterioration as more of his recruits age up and Stoops's recruits age out.
They're not talking here about whether he'll be coaching the team in 2018, they're talking about whether he'll still be coach of the team this November.
And if it's typical of the fanbase sentiment, he's in trouble. They'll likely only be favored in three games this year (Northern AZ, UTEP, OSU) and even RR's best teams have a habit of losing via blowout when they lose. The last time he got through a season without at least one 30-point loss was 2009.
You're probably right. I don't think Ol' Miss is very high on the radar for established coaches as a job they would like to get. I'm guessing a lot of possible candidates would be hesitant to accept that job with the NCAA investigation still ongoing.
Notre Dame academics is what the Domers hide behind to try to justify why they've been largely irrelevant for almost 30 years. They act like they're friggin Harvard. There are plenty of other FBS schools that are just as academically rigorous who do fine. Notre Dame's problem is hiring Ty Willingham, Charlie Weis, and Brian Kelly
And Bob Davie and George O'Leary.
This will only be his second 3-9 season. Apparently you need to have between 3-9 3-9 seasons to get on this list so he should be on there heading into next year.
I believe this to be true. It mirrors Urban leaving Florida for "health concerns" and to "spend more time with his family", just to take a job at ESPN that has him traveling 40% of the time in the summer and fall. I think Stoops is lining himself up very well.
Move to Chicago didn't hurt either....
"spend more time with his family and less time naked with cheerleaders". But I get what you're saying.
Les Miles to Oklahoma?
Dantonio should have been already fired for letting his program turn into a clown show. A lot of people let him off the hook because he didn't interfere or hold up investigations. Big whoop.
It amazes me that people in charge, the people in control of the program get to escape blame.
I hope they crash spectacularly this season.
that buildings will be named after Dantollio (god I hope they misspell his name once)
Off-field issues aside, would you have fired Bo for one 3-9 season? Thats how they look at him.
The problem with your argument is that the off field issues are so enormous that they can't be ignored. Even if he's looked upon as their Bo. This is not something like a few bad eggs getting arrested for DUIs. This is a culture problem with his entire team.
If this kind of scandal had occured under Bo, there would be calls for his head too.
has to be high on the list. He has to beat 2 of Florida, Alabama, and LSU for people not to be calling for his head. If he loses to Alabama (expected) and Florida (less certain), he would have a razor-thin margin for error. I'd put him after Kelly, Sumlin, and Freeze, honestly.
Kelly would be on the hot seat after one down year. He has had a ton of succes at ND and I can't believe his seat is hot after one bad season. I think for him to be in a position of getting fired he would have to have an even worse season of like 2-10 and I don't see that happening.
I think that is debatable and probably depends on what you define as a ton of success. His record at ND is:
2010: 8-5 (won bowl game, 7-5 regular season)
2011: 8-5 (lost bowl game, 8-4 regular season)
2012: 12-1 (lost BCS title game)
2013: 9-4 (won bowl game, 8-4 reason season)
2014: 8-5 (won bowl game, 7-5 regular season)
2015: 10-3 (lost Fiesta Bowl)
2016: 4-8
He's only had 2 regular seasons where he hasn't lost at least 4 games.
Who knew you could be 16 games over .500 at Marshall and be on the hot seat?
Every coach in the SEC that's not named Saban on that list. That league is going to hell thanks to him
Weren't all of these guys being debated as candidates for the UM job at one time or another?
I noticed that too.
There but for the grace of Harbaugh go us . . .
Dantonio not being on this list is shocking. But also is the fact that Malzahn isn't on the list either. The guy has really flamed out since the run to the title game in 2013, as most everyone seems to have his offense figured out.
This year really seems like make or break for him.
I don't want Dantonio on the list, and he shouldnt be - unless its for the off field problems. I want him around for many years of losing to Michigan. "Pride comes before the fall"