OT: Noose found at UM Hospital...Not actually a noose.

Submitted by ScooterTooter on July 16th, 2019 at 7:29 AM

Wanted to post this since it was a topic of discussion several weeks ago. Looks like the most logical answer was the right answer. 

Worth posting because there's often a lot of hand-wringing and "oh, the racism everywhere" when one of these stories comes out and almost no interest from the same people in what actually happened when the investigation is complete. 

Good news all around. 

trustBlue

July 16th, 2019 at 10:32 AM ^

Very weird flex.

Here, I expected to find a few comments expressing relief at learning that a potentially racist incident on campus turned out to be false, and reaffirming the pride in upholding Michigan as a place that is safe and welcoming of students of all creeds and colors.

Nope. Apparently this is just an opportunity to slam everyone who dared show concern over the possibility of a very serious racist incident on campus, because obviously that is the important takeway here.

trustBlue

July 16th, 2019 at 11:21 AM ^

That's B.S.  Nobody in the original thread claimed to know anything more than was in the email distributed by the University. 

The email itself was exteremely straightforward:

1. A noose was found on campus.

2. We will take immediate action to have this investigated.

3. Racism and hate crimes are contrary to the values of the University and will not be tolerated. 

That's it. No individual was accused, nothing more than showing that the University will treat this incident with the seriousness that it deserves. Nobody claimed to know anything more that that.

These takes about "concern trolling" and "what will people find to be outraged at next" are shitty, shitty takes. This was a very concerning incident, and people were right to be concerned. Chastising everyone who cared about this as "concern trolls" severely downplays how serious this could have been. 

Bluezen

July 16th, 2019 at 8:21 PM ^

Your assumption that an innocuous piece of rope would somehow make Michigan unwelcome to people of "all creeds and colors" is ridiculous.  Dont you thin kn it would take something *much* more significant to have such an impact.  If anything is a "weird flex" here, it's the concern drama such as yours.

trustBlue

July 17th, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^

How about this? CNN is reporting that this was found on Stanford's campus yesterday:

The noose was found on a tall bush.

I've learned that I shouldn't believe in racist incidents on campus, so how do I avoid jumping to conclusions? I mean, someone just used this innocuous piece of rope to help themselves climb a tree and accidently left it behind, right?

Someone please tell me what to believe here:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/us/stanford-investigation-noose/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2yMKFSDmo2Fk_e7UyWXh9KdCj_OqTTsBzW4xbC2QilFobdEscu3RL-rAw

Chalky White

July 16th, 2019 at 10:30 AM ^

I've heard a few noose stories over the years. This is the first one that wasn't legit. Maybe there have been others. I don't know. In my experience, when a noose shows up, it's usually a hate crime. 

If this is a normal occurance, why isn't it common knowledge that ropes tied in loops may be lying around in random places in the hospital?

 

GoBlue456

July 16th, 2019 at 8:30 AM ^

Sometimes I wonder if the poster “Bambi” is just a very dedicated troll. Taking into account the username and how this person acts, it’s tough for me to believe there is an actual person out there with those opinions and instantly assumes the worst about everything and everyone.

Tobias_Fünke

July 16th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^

"The people who put that notice together have more facts than you or me. So telling everyone to wait for the facts, when right now you have none and the people who do have facts think this is an act of hatred, is really backwards"

 

That comment of yours didnt age well. 

Mitch Cumstein

July 16th, 2019 at 8:02 AM ^

So is Marschall Runge going to be reprimanded? Granted it followed the AA/UM protocol on virtue signaling and assuming anything that could possibly be a racist hate crime must be... his response wasn’t exactly even keeled. 

Qmatic

July 16th, 2019 at 8:10 AM ^

The sad part is, based on some of the comments in the original post, there seem to be people who might be disappointed that it wasn’t a noose.

WGoNerd

July 16th, 2019 at 8:20 AM ^

So a couple things:

1) Looking at what a uni-knot looks like I 100% can see where someone may think it’s a noose.

2) You shouldn’t be so flippant about people that were concerned about this. Racism is real and is a real issue. If this HAD been a noose meant to intimidate would you have said anything about how people were correct in being upset?

3) (On a lighter note) I work for the university and when this email we couldn’t help thinking of the amateur fisher that had saw the initial email and thought, “Oh shit...”

blue in dc

July 16th, 2019 at 3:24 PM ^

I believe it was found on a shared workspace, not in the storage area.   If I am understanding the chain of events, person #1 was practicing fishing knots and left it in the storage room.   Presumably person #2 (maybe one of the people with the shared workspace), brought it to said workspace, person #3 found it on the shared workspace and reported it.