maineandblue

January 15th, 2021 at 4:25 AM ^

You’re a garbage organization, Gentleman Squirrels. Gase was a terrible hire that the fans unanimously hated and the last GM was disappointing, but the GM of 1 yr Joe Douglas is widely respected, had a solid draft, and fleeced Seattle getting 2 first rounders and a safety for an overrated and disgruntled Jamal Adams. The Jets have tons of draft capital and cap space, this was one of the more appealing coaching vacancies and the Jets got their man before Saleh had s chance to fly to his interview with Detroit. 
 

As for Darnold who knows, but they do have the #2 pick so can go with Fields or Wilson, or can get Darnold oline help and other weapons with their picks and cap space. 

In reply to by LewisBullox

xtramelanin

January 15th, 2021 at 5:08 AM ^

lew, maybe you were just trying to be humorous, but of all the folks that post here SRJK is literally the last guy in the line to take shots at. 

mackbru

January 14th, 2021 at 10:48 PM ^

Seems like a fine defensive coach. But no head coaching experience + no experience with offense in an offense-based league = big gamble. Hiring him -- local guy, pandering to the masses -- would have been very on-brand for the Lions. Glad they passed.

bhughes81

January 15th, 2021 at 12:03 AM ^

because 2 of their last 6 coaches in the last 20 years had any head coaching experience? I'm trying to figure out what you mean that hiring an old, outdated retread is so Lions.

4 of their head coaches are:
Marty Mornhinweg -- SF OC with no experience

Rod Marinelli -- TB DL coach with no experience

Jim Schwartz -- Ten DC with no experience

Matt Patricia -- NE DC with no experience

 

It really seems like hiring a defensive coordinator with no experience is actually more "so Lions-like"

DTOW

January 15th, 2021 at 11:40 AM ^

I'm saying the Lions have a history of making crappy choices to become head coach and a guy like Marvin Lewis is probably the next to join that list.  My wording could have been better, I wasn't trying to imply we continually hire old retreads, just that hiring this old retread would be the next in a long line of awful hires.

To me, Marvin Lewis is nothing more than a Caldwell redux.  Sure, Caldwell won more games than most coaches we've had but that's like pumping your fist about being the smartest of the stupid people.  I'd much rather roll the dice on a guy that might have a higher ceiling.  

Some names that I'd much rather have/would have wanted more than someone like Marvin Lewis or Darrel Bevell:

- Robert Saleh

- Joe Brady

- Eric Bienemy

- Brandon Staley

- Brian Daboll

- Urban Meyer

I guess to me the obvious choice in Detroit was going to be a Dodds/Saleh combination.  Dodds, one of the best talent evaluators in the league that has been a significant piece in completely building the rosters for two different organizations.  Saleh, by all reports and excellent motivator and leader of men.

DTOW

January 15th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^

Not particularly, no.  That said, I already know what Marvin Lewis gets you so I'd rather take a chance on Bienemy over him.  From my list above my order of preference would probably have been:

1. Saleh

2. Daboll

3. Meyer

4. Staley

5. Bienemy

6. Brady

mackbru

January 15th, 2021 at 12:52 PM ^

Leader of men. Motivator. 
These aren’t kids. They’re professionals. What they need is an excellent tactician and talent evaluator. There’s no way you could know that about Saleh. He’s an absolute blank slate in terms of running a team. The Lions don’t need a cheerleaders. They need a genius. 

bronxblue

January 15th, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^

Since the Wayne Fontes era, Detroit has gone to the playoffs exactly 5 times, 4 using "old, outdated retreads" and 1 time with anyone else.  Like, as a Lions fan I'm sort of tired of this team always thinking being competent for a bit is some awful purgatory and instead they should take a "big swing" and bring on some unproven assistant coach who then wins about 35% of his games.

bhughes81

January 15th, 2021 at 12:06 AM ^

LOL.. you really cherry picked there. I'm sure we could all find about 20-30 head coaches in the last 20 years that fits "no head coaching experience and limited assistant coaching" that bombed out of the league.
i.e. Marty Mornhinweg, Rod Marinelli, Jim Schwartz, Matt Patricia... There's 4 right there.

M-GO-Beek

January 15th, 2021 at 8:30 AM ^

I think the point is that it is more about the organization and its ability to find/hire good coaches, regardless of their experience. While I'm sure experience helps, if you find the right coach, it doesn't really matter.

Grampy

January 15th, 2021 at 9:29 AM ^

The more relevant comparison for this board's pack of wild animals might be hiring Juwan Howard as MBB head coach with no prior experience.  That seems to be working out for us.  Coaches with a proven track record and experience in the league aren't about to take the Jets job, so I applaud the new regime for taking a shot at getting the next new hotness.  Good luck, Coach Saleh.

LSA Aught One

January 14th, 2021 at 11:08 PM ^

Me.  I agreed to work for three pennies and a ball of lint.  Offense will be nothing but flea flickers and shovel passes.  We’ll blitz on every defensive snap.  We will save money by eliminating the punter position and go for it on every fourth down.  All players will play Ironman to keep costs down.  No Gatorade, only water.  No assistants.  I’ll have a PS2 with NCAA 2008 plugged in to call plays. We’ll go 8-8 and I’ll be extended