OT: The Kindest Person You Know

Submitted by evenyoubrutus on August 26th, 2022 at 5:42 PM

I've been listening to the podcasts and the roundtable and every time I hear from Seth and Craig Ross I can't help but notice how kind those two men are. That isn't to say that nobody else on those shows is also kind. But the way that both come across as being virtually incapable of being mean spirited - Seth always sounds like he's talking through a big smile. Craig has what feels like congenital humility, like he could have a conversation with anyone and be genuinely interested in hearing what you have to say. This sort of kindness needs to be recognized far more often.

I don't consider myself a kind person. I can be kind at times, I think, but I also have found snarky asshole remarks flying out of my mouth before I even realize the thought has crossed my mind. I would love to be the sort of person who is always happy and always interested in others. Aristotle said:

Excellence is not an act, but a habit

I'm curious to hear from you all about anyone you know or have known whose kindness stands out as an unusual virtue. 

(Sorry if this post feels odd or too Reddity. It's been on my mind and I'm not on Reddit)

potomacduc

August 26th, 2022 at 5:55 PM ^

I also admire kindness. I also often fall short in being kind. 

Society values winning over kindness and that sets up a lot of easy traps to fall into.

Blue@LSU

August 26th, 2022 at 5:57 PM ^

Shit, EYB. I was just writing up a negbang when you posted this. I don't think it's possible for the substance of our two threads to be further apart. 😊

I will say that I second everything you said about Seth and Craig. You can just feel the good vibes flowing from both of them. One person I can think about is my uncle who just passed away recently. Never heard him say a bad thing about anyone. Always had a smile on his face. And even though he didn't really have a pot to piss in, he'd always do what he could to help you out.

BTW, I'll bet you're a damn good person. Snark doesn't make you bad unless you intend to hurt. 

Wendyk5

August 26th, 2022 at 6:00 PM ^

My husband is deeply kind. I've never heard him say anything mean-spirited or petty about anyone. He thinks about other people's feelings, is a very good and loyal friend, has lunch regularly with his elderly mother. He's the nicest person I know. I'm definitely more snarky and judgmental. (Edit: I had to add that he is very kind to animals, and became a cat person when he met me, loving my cats as much as any previously dog-only person could. He's the kind of person who notices when someone is having difficulty with something, like a heavy object or pushing a door open, and will stop to help them, almost absent-mindedly, as if he's just programmed to do that. He remembers all his friends' birthdays, too. Like I said, he is just deeply kind. Lest you think he's some kind of a pushover, he's not. He's a security guy at Wrigley and will throw you the hell out if you're breaking the rules.) 

XM - Mt 1822

August 26th, 2022 at 6:06 PM ^

EYB, very interesting OP.  I’ll play.

mom died when we were kids and my best friend’s mom was my mom for most of my life.  If you can imagine a true doppelgänger for Kathryn Hepburn, wicked smart (U of M grad, don’t you know), loving, generous to a fault, made the most amazing cookies and countless days I sat in her kitchen after sports or school or whatever.  I was considered the fifth son of the family. Oh yeah, she’d smoke a pipe in the evening.

she passed right after our 4th was born and never got to meet most of our children.  I would have liked that a lot, and I’m sure she would’ve, too.

evenyoubrutus

August 26th, 2022 at 6:39 PM ^

These sorts of moms are always impressive to look back on when you're an adult, and you realize that the things they did that seemed so effortless and enjoyable to them are actually laborious and exhausting to us. The joy they got from serving others have them the motivation to keep doing it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

XM - Mt 1822

August 26th, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^

She was a widow, her husband dying about the time my mom did.  One summer we went on a cross-continent trip to the Yukon and b.c. We had a canoe trip you wouldn’t believe and the conditions were pretty hard core on that river. She went with us the whole way and she had to be 59-60 at the time.

she and I made it a thing to eat banana spilts at DQ’s across the US and Canada on that trip. Yum.

she visited me when I lived in cal.  She came to our wedding up here, and of course visited us later up in the UP when we started to be blessed with kids. God I miss her, and heaven knows I would’ve been an even bigger jerk than I am now (if that’s possible) without her.

Blue Vet

August 26th, 2022 at 6:10 PM ^

My mom. With five children, no money, an ambitious husband, and moved far from her family and friends, sometimes she was probably pushed by life, at least I think so now, but she stayed sweet and nice.

HighBeta

August 26th, 2022 at 6:13 PM ^

This is from back when there were a few trolleys still running in NYC. I will never forget this.

I lived in a decent neighborhood that bordered another sorta, kinda meh neighborhood that bordered a holy crap neighborhood. There was a deli owner whose shop was right on the corner between nice and meh. He was, to me, a very nasty, grumpy guy. Barely tolerated kids like me (we were quiet kids from the neighborhood), he just wanted our coins. 

Every day, a rambling, mostly crazy woman, the kind that loudly argues with no one, the kind that even loses the argument with the voices in her head, would walk in, sit at the counter and order a coffee with a "toasted bagel and a schmear" (that's cream cheese for those that are confused). The owner would patiently serve it to her, she would quietly sit and enjoy her meal, sometimes get a refill on her coffee.

And. After she was done, she would say something to him along the lines of "good", or "fuck you", or anything in between and just walk out, never paying. By the time she got to the corner, she was back in her loud arguments.

I watched this go on for probably the dozen or so years I lived there. He never called the cops, she never was a problem in the deli. It was just the pattern at the corner deli.

In those moments, the man had a heart of gold.

Lorch Hall

August 26th, 2022 at 6:27 PM ^

I studied in undergrad at a school not University of Michigan, but also on the Great Lakes, so prone to cold, unpredictable weather. It was the 1980s, so to use a computer, you had to use a university computer lab. I was in a university lab at 3:00 am finishing a project. All of a sudden a buddy walks in, having trudged 2 miles across campus in six inches of snow and howling winds to deliver an apple he'd taken from the cafeteria earlier that evening. I asked what he was doing here. He just said I knew you'd be here; figured you'd probably be hungry. He left the apple and went home. Who does that?

Kewaga.

August 26th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^

My parents!  They are one in a million and I tell them that often.  One of my affirmations cards on my doors is:

Be Humble

Be Grateful

Be Compassionate

Just one example: When I was 19 in 1987 and ABSOLUTELY agonizing about coming out to my parents... I went into their bedroom.  They were in bed reading a magazine/book, I told them I had something I needed to tell them.  They put down their magazines, I blurted out "I gay".  They paused for a second and then said "Well, we still love you" and went back to reading.  I was outraged at the grief I went through, thinking I'd could be disowned or kicked out of the house saying "What, That's it?!".... to which they again put down their magazines and said "Well' we can be mad if you want us to".  To which I chuckled and that was the end of that.

rob f

August 26th, 2022 at 6:41 PM ^

My nomination is my high school track coach, Coach Bob Misner.  A master motivator, academic counselor, teacher and coach, a genuinely enthusiastic rah-rah guy who has always had time for everyone whose life he has touched.

When I saw him just a few years ago for the first time in about a decade it felt like we had never missed a beat, he immediately recognized me and we proceeded to have a 15 minute conversation. Same thing this year when I arrived early to watch a district track meet at my old high school and saw him setting up the hurdles for the first hurdling event---he spotted me before I spotted him and immediately called out my name. And again a good conversation.

Full disclosure: I wasn't a track star by any means, instead just a "guy" on the team who ran track as a freshman, sat out much of my soph season after suffering an injury, then didn't rejoin the team until my senior year. 

Star or scrub or non-athlete, no matter who you are/were, Mr Misner always has had time for everyone and still does so, well into his 8th decade of a joyful life.

rob f

August 26th, 2022 at 10:50 PM ^

And I'll third it.  All of the above and then some, nothing less than genuine and generous hospitality.

I've been a guest of XM and had the privilege of meeting his wonderful family up at the family farm, besides meeting  up with him and a few of his kids on assorted Big House Football Saturdays.  

Durham Blue

August 26th, 2022 at 11:34 PM ^

I am in agreement.  I only know XM from the banter on this board, which isn't squat in the grand scheme, but he does seem like a genuine salt of the earth guy.

As for people I know, I have to nominate my immediate family, including grandparents and aunts and uncles.  I am fortunate to have grown up surrounded by so much love.

Don

August 26th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^

My wife.

We're celebrating our 43rd anniversary tomorrow, and how someone as kind as she is has been able to put up with a cantankerous, pessimistic, vile-tempered, loud-swearing, intolerant jerk for that long is amazing.

Sam1863

August 27th, 2022 at 7:04 AM ^

I'm gonna guess (and this is completely out of left field since I don't know either one of you), but ...

If you told that self-description to Mrs. Don, she'd probably reply, "Yes, but you're MY cantankerous, pessimistic, vile-tempered, loud-swearing, intolerant jerk."

Here's to the women who put up with guys like us.

Happy Anniversary.

Kapitan Howard

August 26th, 2022 at 7:16 PM ^

My dad was incredibly kind and generous. He always ensured the people around him were taken care of and was very sweet with animals. His friends, family, and coworkers always remarked on how their lives were improved by his generosity and sense of humor. I think he was a good example of the difference between "nice" and "kind" because he was often far from polite and could be a rude and bitter old man!

CR

August 26th, 2022 at 7:22 PM ^

Ah, and you Brutus. Your note is one of kindness and for myself I have had lapses that haunt me. But thank you. I will try to pay it forward.

My brother John, an MD, is much kinder than I am, I know that. I have never seen him lapse in generosity in time or money or effort. I have never seen him be rude or selfish or thoughtless. Quite remarkable.

CR

August 28th, 2022 at 3:36 PM ^

John has been on with Sam a couple of times, talking about COVID since he also has a Masters in Public Health and has been chair of the Dept of Public Health in Lucas County (Toledo) over the worst  of the pandemic.

But your idea seems plausible to me. He played football at Cornell but his MPH is from UM and he is a huge UM fan.

Thanks (again).

 

 

 

Colt Burgess

August 26th, 2022 at 7:34 PM ^

Can't think of anyone current. The kindest person I ever knew was my friend's dad. He genuinely wanted to know all about me the first time I came over to his house. Even told his wife that maybe they could help me find a job. I cried like a baby when he died. I was sort of in shock when my friend told me, but everything came out when I saw him in his casket. Heard Elton John's Funeral for a Friend on the car radio as we drove to the cemetery. Was really cool, though sad too.  Forty-plus years later and I've never met anyone like him. He was from Finland.

Brightside

August 26th, 2022 at 7:39 PM ^

I had the great fortune of taking my daughter on a 2 week “business” trip to India and Thailand. Can’t tell you how many kind and generous people we came across. Can’t recall a single ass hole on the entire trip. 

UMgradMSUdad

August 26th, 2022 at 8:06 PM ^

Bob passed away a few years ago, and in life was very humble, unassuming, and kind to everyone. He was a secretary where my wife worked at a local university. 

Late in life he got sick and married his nurse, and she provided great comfort to him, and they were devoted to each other. He adopted her daughter and became a wonderful influence in her life. Unfortunately, they only a few years together before he passed.

Then came his obituary. It was a bizarre Walter Mittyish list of exploits that were wholly fictional . He invented heroic deeds in Vietnam (he never served), advanced degrees he never earned , and a position at the university as a professor (as mentioned earlier,  he was a secretary). 

May he rest in peace.

MGlobules

August 26th, 2022 at 8:52 PM ^

Both my dad and my wife are incapable of meanness. I'm lucky to have spent so much of my life in their presence. I'm not anywhere near so virtuous, but they make a powerful example that hauls me up often when I am given to resentment or sarcasm. 

I too appreciated this question. 

AlbanyBlue

August 26th, 2022 at 9:29 PM ^

My Dad's best friend Jim. He was a Godly man, but his kindness went far beyond that. He took care of his elderly mother (90s) and also assisted his wife, who had MS. I never even saw the man get angry.

We used to play golf.....Dad, Jim, and I. In my teen years, I couldn't handle my temper after a bad shot, and Jim was always the one to calm me down. I totally looked up to that man, and I always will. What a great person and role model.

Louie C

August 26th, 2022 at 9:40 PM ^

My mom, and my wife's step mom. They have the most beautiful souls that I have ever encountered. It makes me tear up sometimes when I think of how kind and sweet they are. 

Hotel Putingrad

August 26th, 2022 at 10:49 PM ^

Probably my brother-in-law, which is a good thing, since he's a 6'5", 250 lb former Marine, and I'd hate to see him angry.

I've known him for over 30 years now, and I can't recall a single incident of hostility.