OT: Could 2020 bring aliens next?
Obviously 2020 has been a wild year. As if things couldn't get any weirder it looks like we may be in for some major news regarding UFOs...
It started back earlier this spring when the Navy officially confirmed that the following 3 videos were real, captured by military personnel from 2004-2015 off the east and west coasts of the US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1uLwUTDA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVRg7LLaQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rWOtrke0HY
It's pretty interesting to hear the genuine reactions of the pilots in these videos. These objects are purportedly performing maneuvers well beyond the capabilities of our current technology. It's been proposed that this could be advanced tech from another country like Russia or China, but experts have expressed doubts that either of these countries could have leapfrogged the rest of the world so drastically. In addition, Russia and China are both studying the phenomenon behind closed doors as well.
The next bit of news came several weeks back when the New York Times broke the news that the Pentagon has not only been studying UFOs under a team called the "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force" but will actually begin making some of their findings public.
Here is a link to the Department of Defense announcement: https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2314065/establishment-of-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-task-force/
And finally, a CNN news segment where they interview a former defense official on the matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTdCDfEu6x0
Is it aliens? *shrug* maybe. Either way the US government has documented objects crossing into restricted airspace and that's definitely cause for concern as a matter of national security.
August 27th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
Knowing humanity, I assume the aliens are trying to give us the cure for COVID - and all other viruses, and cancer, and death itself - and we’ll instead shoot them down and start a planet-ending war.
August 27th, 2020 at 8:57 AM ^
Can they play defensive tackle?
August 27th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^
made my day, that was perfect
August 27th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^
Regarding UFOs , I find the phenomenon interesting. It’s certainly possible we have and/or are currently being visited by extraterrestrials.
As it relates to life elsewhere, I find it hard to believe there is not any intelligent life form out there anywhere. There are just too many planets around too many stars for there not to be something out there somewhere. I just don’t think we’ll find out before humans end up going extinct, though I think we’ll leave Earth to colonize elsewhere before that happens. We’ll likely have the technology to do that within the next 100-200 years. Our descendants thousands of years from now may discover it.
As for these recent incidents? Man is that tough to explain. What else could it be? I always say though, “just because you can’t explain it doesn’t mean there isn’t an explanation.”
August 27th, 2020 at 10:01 AM ^
The possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is high, IMO, as you state. Alien visits and technology goes back the ancient Egypt. The real proof eludes us.
August 28th, 2020 at 8:16 AM ^
It’s not just high, it’s almost mathematically impossible there aren’t other worlds. Lot’s of evidence out there too. I think we may have possession of advanced alien propulsion systems that crashed and are still trying to figure it out.
August 27th, 2020 at 10:23 AM ^
I'm something of a UFO buff but I'm very discerning when I check out a case. Usually, I look for credible sources and in these cases - the Navy and DOD are pretty credible. And there have been a lot of other legit sightings/reports by naval and commercial airline pilots over the years. Military and government officials on ships and in radar control towers have also had some very credible accounts.
To me, the most compelling case out there is the Rendlesham Forest incident on a US military base in the UK in the early 80s. One of the firsthand witnesses was a colonel, a very distinguished and no-nonsense kind of guy. Plus, the "official" explanation was extremely weak. Thought I would throw that out there - check it out!
August 27th, 2020 at 11:40 AM ^
Except the Navy and DoD would want us to believe it was alien if it were in fact our own.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:13 AM ^
Sure, why the hell not.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:21 AM ^
Profile picture checks out.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:17 AM ^
Those aliens are just tourists. Earth was rated as best planet for ass eating by Tripadvisor.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:22 AM ^
Everyone knows real aliens probe asses anyway.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:30 AM ^
Yeah, with their tongues! What did you think they were doing all this probing with???
August 27th, 2020 at 9:27 AM ^
Ok. I’ve seen these ass eating comments quite a bit recently. Where did this emanate from? It’s clear I missed something somewhere.
August 27th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^
you guys are onto something, the guy in the 3rd video was an
ass trode physicist
August 27th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
I'll give you credit for trying. It didn't quite work, but you gave it a good try!
August 27th, 2020 at 1:14 PM ^
appreciate that.... I go for volume and not quality with my jokes
August 27th, 2020 at 1:54 PM ^
Might I say that I am thoroughly enjoying all the ass eating comments being added into the majority of the message boards ....im dying laughing
August 27th, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
Not if they like to eat ass.
EDITED: Hatter beat me to the punch.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
I would gladly welcome intelligent life forms to this planet, though I don't see why they'd want to visit the ass end of multicellular life.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
I’d sure love to see it. It would be (up to that point) the defining moment of human history. Far bigger than anything that has ever happened up to this point. But I doubt it’ll happen in our lifetimes.
That being said, the idea that we are alone in the universe or that there is not other intelligent life out there is (to me) asinine. You have billions of other galaxies out there, and within each of those galaxies, billions of stars and then billions more planets. You mean to tell me that you don’t think at least one planet out there harbors life? I’m sorry, but Earth is not that fucking special. There have to be countless habitable zones out there. And then who’s to say there isn’t life out there that hasn’t evolved so much that it’s learned to live outside habitable zones.
I will say, though, that if any aliens do show up here and get to us first, we’d better hope they’re not hostile. Because if they can find us, that means that they are far, far more technologically advanced than we are at this point. Which also means they could enslave or kill us all very easily if they wanted to. There’s certainly plenty of times in our history where we’ve done the same to our own kind. They might look at us and decide we aren’t worthy to be considered equals with them.
But it will be truly fascinating to see if they understand and apply the laws of physics differently than humans. If they can find us does that mean they’ve achieved FTL travel? Could they help us achieve it? Would they even want to? And this doesn’t even go into the elephant in the room of what this would do to our world’s religions if aliens arrive. If they show up, does that mean Jesus died for the aliens, too?
Endless conversations to be had here.
August 27th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
If you have ever listened to Joe Rogan on his podcast talking about extraterrestrials, I think he has a pretty good take on it.
Imagine if humans found an island filled with primates who had discovered how to use TNT... wouldn't we be keeping an eye on them? UFO sightings and reports picked up dramatically after humans began detonating nuclear weapons, especially over military bases.
I don't think it's it a leap of logic to think perhaps some intelligent life is keeping an eye on the planet full of primates using nuclear weapons.
JMHO.
August 27th, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^
I haven’t listened to his podcast but a lot of folks tell me I should.
That’s not at all a bad take. It’s a very good and very interesting one. But the one hole in that idea that I can think of is that humanity has already explored and covered the whole planet. There’s a very finite amount of space we have to work with and we’ve already seen and covered all of it. There’s no area of it that we don’t know about.
Outer space is, shall we say, considerably larger. I don’t at all question the premise of more intelligent beings wanting to monitor us and make sure we don’t nuke ourselves into oblivion. The bigger question (to me) is have they found us yet in order to be able to do that? Maybe they have, but they’ve sure got a lot more ground to cover in finding us if they haven’t. Humanity already knows every corner and crevice of this planet. It would be a lot easier for us to find an island of dynamite-using primates than it would be for extraterrestrials to find us in the vast emptiness of space. But maybe that’s not the point.
As I mentioned, this Topic brings up a lot of very interesting questions.
August 27th, 2020 at 1:28 PM ^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ
That link is the full episode of Rogan's podcast with Cmdr. David Fravor, one of the Navy pilots featured in the OP's video links. It's a fascinating interview, and as far as credibility goes, I don't know how you more credible than a Navy fighter pilot with video evidence, and admission by the Pentagon that they don't know what the object captured on the video really is.
As for if "they" have found us, I have no background to speak on that. My only thought is if they have the ability to travel here, they very likely have detection technology far more advanced than we can conceive at the moment. Go back 100 years and tell someone that in 2020, we'd have the ability to walk around and communicate with anyone, anywhere around the world.. and that we'd have access to a global network that contains billions of users and almost limitless knowledge (and BS as well). They'd probably have a pretty hard time wrapping their head around that... just as I'm sure we'd be blown away by what humans are doing 100 years from today.
August 27th, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
Perkis, we've explored 65% of our planet and 5% of the ocean. Come on man why would you say the exact opposite like it was a fact? Humans,lol
August 27th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
We’re not alone in the universe...
August 27th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
If not now, when? Let us have it! I think 2020 has prepared us all for anything.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^
If we're seeing flying objects defying the laws of physics our biggest problem isn't the flying objects, it's that we fucked up physics. For shame, Newton. For shame.
August 27th, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^
Don't forget Einstein's laws of relativity and E=mc2. Can't go faster than the speed of light.
I have always marveled at Gene Roddenberry's original Star Trek on a space travel warping distance to go faster the the speed of light, and that was in the 1960s. What a concept! Maybe this can be attainable, say 23rd century?
August 27th, 2020 at 9:37 AM ^
It's just swamp gas, weather balloons and temperature inversions. Nothing to see here.
August 27th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
Fun fact: Swamp Gas as an explanation for lights in the sky originated in March 1966 as a result of a UFO "sighting" in Dexter, Michigan. A Northwestern University professor/UFO investigator dismissed the sighting as "swamp gas," and that phrase became the 1960s equivalent of a meme and entered our language as a joking explanation for unexplained phenomena.
https://michigantoday.umich.edu/2014/04/13/ann-arbor-vs-the-flying-saucers/
August 27th, 2020 at 1:35 PM ^
Yes! Dr Hynek is featured on Project Blue Book on History Channel where each case is based on a real event. The intense pressure of the government to keep things quiet led to Hynek claiming these types of phenonemon were the cause as more often than not, the cause was top secret government and military experiments. His story is very interesting and although many of the cases he investigated had a reasonable explanation, but several left him without any explanations and his skepticism on extraterrestrials nosedived.
August 27th, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
Love it when people reason that the objects in the videos are "just drones". Right, my $200 prop driven drone doesn't go 2000+ mph in free air and pull maneuvers at thousands of G's. The most advanced earthly craft of any kind cannot possibly do the things that these UAPs have been witnessed to do.
This shit is real, folks. I won't go as far as saying they are ETs. They could be future human time travelers. But they sure as hell are NOT anything of this planet right now.
August 28th, 2020 at 7:34 PM ^
The advancement of drones in the military sector is very impressive. I’m not stating capability, but look into open source material for what China and Russia recently revealed, after all they copied our models which have been functional for years & are relatively unknown to the general public.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:38 AM ^
I'll take the under (or I guess the over?) Meaning it won't be by the end of 2020.
While I don't doubt there's intelligent life somewhere in the Universe, it took ~3.8 billion years for this planet to produce life intelligent enough to get slightly off its surface and if far more advanced civilizations were in our vicinity they would have colonized any suitable planets far before we evolved to where we are today.
We're probably not alone, but we're probably so isolated from other intelligent civilizations that we'll never be aware of them.
August 27th, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^
Yeah that's pretty much exactly where I land
August 27th, 2020 at 9:39 AM ^
What I find most interesting from these videos is pretty clear evidence that someone, either here on Earth or elsewhere (probably elsewhere) has made a functional Alcubierre drive.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:51 AM ^
If an alien race has been observing us, it can be presumed that their technology is so advanced that they're already aware whether their cover is about to be blown. They are likely so highly evolved that they will either flee immediately, or they will vaporize Earth immediately. OR harvest a variety of humans and other life forms from the planet for the advancement of their scientific research, before wiping out our species.
I suppose there is also a possibility that they might take over control of Earth's governments and enslave us, but if that were their intention they'd likely have done this already.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:54 AM ^
I like to think they're all on some interplanetary safari, just checking us out for the hell of it.
"Look at these little primates. They've nearly colonized their entire planet. OH SHIT they're using propulsion to fling themselves into the sky haha how primitive"
August 27th, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
Well it wouldn't be my fault. I voted for Kodos
August 27th, 2020 at 10:18 AM ^
They are likely so highly evolved that they will either flee immediately, or they will vaporize Earth immediately.
Or, you know, just sit back and not worry about primitive twits shitting where they eat? The farthest manned mission relative to Earth was a swing-by around the Moon. The absolute farthest human presence is a dying probe coasting through the heliopause.
Would you panic over a lobster stuck at the bottom of a well?
August 27th, 2020 at 10:35 AM ^
Aren't there two dying probes in the heliopause? I mean, that's gotta make a difference, right?
August 27th, 2020 at 10:59 AM ^
Isn't it four? Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1, Voyager 2.
August 27th, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^
I guess we could suspect the Pioneer craft to be there, but radio signals were lost long before they would have arrived. No word on where they are, what they might be doing, or who may have encountered them.
August 27th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
I read a lot of Sci-Fi, and have for 30-40 years. Lots of stuff from current back to the 40s and 50s.
There was definitely an era there where the assumption in Sci-Fi was any aliens out there may observe us in this era, but would figure us just as likely to kill ourselves off as to make it to interstellar space.
Those authors usually assumed nukes, but I think we've managed to create a whole host of other problems where we may solve them, we may not. A lot of humans, a lot of tech. All in one spot at one time.
We certainly aren't in any danger of leaving the solar system any time soon, given we can't even get off this rock permanently.
August 27th, 2020 at 11:20 AM ^
Yeah pretty much what you say about the lobster thing. Maybe they don't need to flee or exterminate us. We, or the earth, probably have some value to them, otherwise why would they bother visiting at all. Humans haven't set out to exterminate lobsters, but we also don't befriend them either, mostly humans are ambivalent to other species. They are just another resource with a niche in the environment.
August 27th, 2020 at 1:27 PM ^
"If an alien race has been observing us, it can be presumed that their technology is so advanced that they're already aware whether their cover is about to be blown"
I subscribed to this theory for a while, but after thinking about it one has to consider the alternatives, and I ultimately think that is unlikely. When you consider the human race on a spectrum, it's a bell curve, some hyper intelligent and talented individuals, many in the middle, and some total bozos. The same is true for most organizations. If we're assuming that advanced civilizations exist and have been here, it's probably safe to assume that the "A-team" has been here, or at least some competent form of that civilization.
But consider the alternatives, take an army for example, you have some great soldiers, and you have some people that maybe signed up for a paycheck and are not that committed at all, you might even have deserters. Soldiers make blunders and leave behind gear and equipment in foreign countries all the time, equipment malfunctions. Why would we assume another civilization would not have these problems? Does the other civilization have teenagers? What if alien Chad took dad's alien lambo out for an intergalactic spin and forgot to turn on the cloaking?
IF aliens have been here it's clear they are incredibly more advanced as a civilization, but that does not mean their civilization does not have idiots or make mistakes, same as ours.
August 27th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
The co-founder of this site responsible for this video: To the Stars... Academy of Arts & Sciences is a company co-founded by Tom DeLonge, guitarist of Blink-182 and Angels & Airwaves
August 27th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
Yeah it's honestly part of what makes this whole thing so dang weird and fascinating. The frickin guitarist from Blink-182 somehow got involved with a bunch of former government officials and created this group "To The Stars Academy" - they were the ones to originally leak these videos which have since been confirmed as legit. So there's obviously credibility here.
Even more interesting is the To The Stars Academy actually entered into a cooperative research agreements with the United States Army: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30498/the-army-wants-to-verify-to-the-stars-academys-fantastic-ufo-mystery-material-claims