OT: Bill O'Brien Interested in Maryland?
Ok so I realize this news is a few days old but I haven't seen it anywhere on the mgoboard. Mods, feel free to delete if already posted.
There are conflicting reports that Bill O'Brien has been rumored to be interested in the Maryland job. Testudo Times has the links:
http://www.testudotimes.com/maryland-terrapins-football/2015/11/15/9738…
A division with Meyer, Harbaugh, Dantonio, Franklin, and O'Brien would be insane...
November 16th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^
Trending n the wrong direction?
November 16th, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 9:29 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 1:13 AM ^
It reminds me a bit of the reporting surrounding Coach Harbaugh last year... A whole lot of conjecture and very little sourcing and/or reporting. Just a lot of talking heads certain of their point of view. You gotta wonder where they get these "sources."
November 16th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
You left out Kevin Wilson. Seriously, while IU can't seem to win the games, they sure seem to push everyone to the edge...
November 16th, 2015 at 5:45 PM ^
This is really intriguing. If the UA factor can convince an extra two or three solid recruits on the defensive side of the ball to go to Maryland, can Wilson be what Chip Kelly was at Oregon? I don't see why not.
November 16th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^
Did you mean Indiana? I am confused.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:12 PM ^
Fomo brought up Kevin Wilson as name that might fit at Maryland--or at least I think that's what he meant--and it made me imagine what a Kevin Wilson at UA-backed Maryland would be like compared to what Chip Kelly had at Nike-backed Oregon. I saw a lot of similarities. Wilson doesn't have any problem with offense, like Chip, but he needs more athletes on defense. He just hung 41 points on one of the best defenses in the country last Saturday. Maybe the UA factor at Maryland allows him to get the defensive help he needs that he wouldn't get at IU. If so, I think they'd be real contenders in the conference. The thought intrigued me.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:15 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^
Right! My bad. I just tried to edit my prior message to acknowledge I misread fomo's post, but it wouldn't let me for some reason. Anyway, I'm an idiot and everyone's confusion is justified.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:26 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
Ah, that would make sense. Thanks for the info!
November 16th, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^
There's also a quirk where a mod edited comment (even one of our own) doesn't show as new, but if a user edits theirs it does show as new.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:58 AM ^
Who says there is any "UA factor" at all?
November 16th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^
Would Maryland be a better situation than PSU? Maryland does have Under Armor behind it and at PSU he did have the Joe Paterno era to shrug off.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:48 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
have convinced themselves that Kevin Plank is their Phil Knight and that he is going to turn them into Oregon of the East.
November 16th, 2015 at 10:12 PM ^
Maryland... Fans?
November 16th, 2015 at 4:53 PM ^
Tangible? Not much yet. The plan is for them to do what Nike did for Oregon. We'll see if that actually amounts to anything. article
November 16th, 2015 at 4:52 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 5:45 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 5:53 PM ^
We can stop this before it catches any steam..Anybody else hear the rumor? I heard from a good source Under Armor skins kittens and uses their fur for "Cold Gear" clothing..its true
November 16th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
Plank has a lot of money and he's going to throw it behind the program. UA is also apparently going to have them be like Oregon with different uniforms every week.
November 16th, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 5:43 PM ^
Wasn't he actually a football player for them?
Edit: According to Wikipedia he wasn't, but did play in HS.
November 17th, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^
He was on the football team but I think as a walk on.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^
thought Edsall's job was safe because Maryland couldn't afford his buyout. They didn't even give him the rest of the season to try to turn things around. It looks like a move triggered by a promise to pay for a bigger name coach. There are persistent rumors that Maryland is prepared to do just that and no one is shooting them down. Mostly people are just skeptical that money is enough to make the job attractive.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:02 PM ^
November 16th, 2015 at 7:01 PM ^
Who always think there's some kind of magic bullet or One Weird Trick (TM) that's going to turn Maryland into a nationally elite football program. And, yanno, there just isn't. It doesn't work that way. It used to be OH THE STADIUMS NEED RENOVATING, OH WE NEED NEW RECRUITS, OH THE TOBACCO ROAD POWERS ARE BIASED, OH CLEMSON/FSU CHEAT! OH OH OH.
So they spent a ton of money on facilities, and those upgrades basically bankrupted the department because fans still didn't come (which gets to Maryland's real big problem: competing with all the DC/Baltimore pro teams for entertainment dollar). They switched conferences as if joining the Big 10 would magically make them better, and it didn't. And they traded a conference with two dominant powers for a conference with 4.
Now they've become obsessed with being Oregon East, but what they fail to realize is that Oregon took almost 20 years of consistenly good head coach hires before the Chip Kelly era Oregon Ducks became national title contenders.
But hey, this is a school that switched conferences specifically to make more money, and then ended up having to pay a 40m dollar exit fee that's going to keep them from seeing any Big 10 profits for years and years.
November 16th, 2015 at 7:10 PM ^
This is really interesting and I take it you have some experience with Maryland fans.
I think people look at Nike and Oregon and think its just a matter of money and flashy uniforms and all the kids were hooked. Kids aren't quite that stupid. I'm sure a lot of them were wowed by $Nike but they still want to go to a place where they can suceed and have good coaching, and that's what Oregon was able to offer above all else. If Maryland hires the next Chip Kelly and has the facilities to back it up, then they could be on to something, but great coaching is the most important thing. Dantonio is proof enough of that.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^
has always been strong, for both athletes (e.g., Dan Fouts) and non-athletes. Maryland isn't able, I think, to recruit NJ, OH, and PA the way OU can tap into California. There are 38 million people here. All the good HS football players can't go to SC, UCLA, and Stanford (so they go to OU, OSU, UW, AZ, ASU, Utah...).
November 17th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^
Well they aren't paying a 40m exit they negoiated a settlment for 30 million dollars that was owed to maryland but was never paid and the school doesn't have to make any additional payments to the ACC.
And yes MD football sucks right now. They also have more players currently in the NFL than Michigan and had 3 consecutive 10+ win seasons in the early 2000's including a bcs bowl. So sure it isn't ever going to be a powerhouse but to pretend like MD football never has been good and has no chance of ever being good is a little absurd. MD has better shot at being a good football team in 10 years than msu does.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:12 AM ^
exaggerating things here. Marylands exit fee is $31m, still hurts them but it's not $40m. They will get 70% of the normal B1G revenue sharing this year. Purdue is reporting $32m for 2015. Based on that than Maryland is still getting $22.4m this year which is about $2.4m more than they would be getting from the ACC. Next year that number will increase as the B1G goes to 9 conference games the expected payout is increasing as well. Marylands football attendence increased by 14% its first year in the conference as well. By 2017 Maryland will be bringing in 10 to 15 million more than it would have from the ACC. My point is that if they did this for money, they made the right move and it's not even debatable.
November 17th, 2015 at 9:30 AM ^
Well there is the $155 million performance center being buitl with Under Armour money. Plus Kevin Plank is the one the who is giving the money necessary to fire Edsall and get a new coach. On top of that UA sponsors a ton of high school basketball and football teams as well as the UA all america game. Being the lead school of a brand kids like helps in recruiting, thats part of why everyone here wanted to get out of adidas.
So I would consider a new state of the art training facility, the money necessary to fire a shit coach and bring in a good one, and an increased recruiting profile (already paying off in basketball, see Stone, Diamond) pretty tangible benefits but thats just me.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
Maryland is a better situatiion than the one he had at PSU.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^
I'm not sure that O'Brien is the ingredient that makes that coaching roster insane
November 16th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^
the Rutgers coach is the WOW factor.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
But Franklin is?
November 16th, 2015 at 4:57 PM ^
- simply refuting that O'Brien is
November 16th, 2015 at 5:24 PM ^
O'Brien is a much better coach than Franklin. His work at PSU in the wake of those sanctions was darn impressive and he's really only struggling at Houston because he has no QB.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^
And no discipline. Sometimes this Texans team is only watchable with loads of alcohol.
Thank god for JJ. hew. Hopefully they won't lay an egg tonight.
November 16th, 2015 at 6:17 PM ^
No QB? He had Mallett.
/S
November 16th, 2015 at 6:24 PM ^
I think that has a lot to do with the GM/Owner as well
November 16th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^
if you listened to the podcasts, you would know that this is old news started by Jason La Canfora.
/entitled
November 16th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^
Can Maryland afford Bill O'Brien? Hell, can Maryland afford me?*
*Maryland, I have zero football coaching experience but you will find my terms reasonable ($100,000 per year with a $5,000 bonus for each B1G win, a $25,000 bonus for finishing above .500 in the B1G, a $75,000 bonus for going to the B1G championship game, and free 100-level tickets to Wizards games), and I already live in the area so relocation costs are not a worry. I'm ready for a new challenge! Call me.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
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