nerv

June 20th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^

Im pretty much with you on that. Though I will give Two Hearted a nod as that is one I actually don't mind.

That list is essentially 80% IPA's though. In most cases I will happily take some random cheap beer over a much more finely brewed pale ale.

ijohnb

June 20th, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^

neither.  IPAs are just too heavy, body, taste and alcohol content.  They are just too much, IMO.  A lot of times I am drinking beer when I am doing yard work and stuff.  IPAs just stop me in my tracks. 

Rabbit21

June 20th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^

I thought the exact same thing.  I get why people who like IPA's like them, but the list being that heavy on IPA's is a bit disappointing and, to me, speaks to the hive minds IPA drinkers get in thinking that only IPA's are a worthy beer(one reason I dislike the Pacific NorthWest beer scene so intensely).

joeyb

June 20th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

I do like IPAs and stouts, but I'm so very disappointed that this list has so few other types of beers. I wouldn't expect to see sours on there, but reds, ambers, browns, and belgians are just a few popular styles that I would expect to see a lot more of on a list of best beers.

MgoHillbilly

June 20th, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^

If one of my favorites and my friends down here in Georgia agree without me introducing them to it. It has become pretty popular and is on tap more often than I would have expected around town.

PB-J Time

June 20th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^

Yes, and it is good. Both the Elder and the Younger are good. But there are many other good DIPAs. I'm not sure I'd put them in my top 10 (but admitedly I would have far fewer IPAs) entenial and Two Hearted are IMO the best, but I prefer Centenial hops (used in both) over the other Cs-Columbus, Cascade, Chinook commonly used in IPAs

drjaws

June 20th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

It's better than 2-hearted IMO.  2-hearted isn't even my favorite IPA.  My favorite brewery is probably Dark Horse so I do love me some Smells Like a Safety Meeting and the Crooked Tree.

 

I do think that Founders is one of the top breweries around (them and New Glarus) just based on overall quality of all offerings.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

June 20th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

I love two-hearted. That it's named after a Hemingway short story** about the upper peninsula somehow makes it even better.

 

**(written before Ernest felt he had enough talent to include multiple characters and therefore dialogue; it's about a young WWI vet, Nick Adams, who can't bring himself to discuss what he saw and heads off to nature for its regenerative characteristics; he winds up fishing on the Fox river. The story's title -- Big, Two-Hearted River -- encapsulates a metaphor. That the Fox river is braided (has two hearts) in the area where Nick fishes. One of these is clear; the other, swampy. And he only fishes in the clear, in much the same way as he refuses to actively remember the war)

Everyone Murders

June 20th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

Which one is best is a matter, of course, of opinion.  I finally tracked down a Pliny the Elder through a friend in CA, and found it superb, but also have fond memories of downing a couple of Two Hearted's at Old Town on several occasions.

What's nice to me is that there is such a wealth of great beer out there these days.  You younguns should appreciate what you've got - it wasn't that long ago that a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale or a Liberty Ale was about as exotic as things got on the U.S. ale front.  We live in great beer times.

Also, my favorite MI brewery is New Holland on the stout side (although Founder's Breakfast Stout is rock solid too), but probably with #TeamFounders on the IPA and Pale ale side.

Everyone Murders

June 20th, 2017 at 5:27 PM ^

Only the Huma Lupa Licious, which I thought was quite good.  Sort of a flagship IPA - well-balanced, fresh hop taste, etc. 

I don't mean this in a bad way, but it was one of dozens of excellent highly-hopped IPA's I've had the chance to enjoy in the past ten years or so.  Which is what every decent ale brewery should have, and many ale breweries lack. 

Based on the H-L-L I'm guessing that Short's has some other excellent offerings a bit more off the beaten path - I'm just no longer in the area, so I've not been able to sample much else.

HireWayne

June 20th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

Nothing like cooler full of Bells Best Brown, Two Hearted, and Oktoberfest at Pioneer HS on a crisp fall morning.

Man, I need football season. 

BlueMan80

June 20th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

I do think Two Hearted is very good, but best beer in America?  There's just too many great beers out there and this list is a group of craft brewers with pretty wide distribution.  I was surprised to see the 3 Floyds beers on the list.  Zombie Dust (which is quite good and deserving of its ranking) is usually hard to find, but I have noticed their beer is becoming more plentiful at our local Binny's.  They must have kicked it up a notch or two in the past year.

Chicago has some great craft brewers that don't have wide distribution yet (Pipeworks, Revolution, Metropolitan) with a bunch of little guys still building their business (Solemn Oath, Penrose).  That's the great thing about craft beer.  You have regional/national players and small local guys all making great beer.  I love the local guys and try to be supportive.  Practicing the lessons of Harbaugh, competition is a good thing.  Can't wait for the Naperville Ale Fest next month.  I always find something new and interesting every year.  Urban Chestnut from St. Louis was there a few years ago.  They do German styles with a twist.  Their Fantasyland IPA is quite good.  If you see Urban Chestnut beer on the shelf, give it a try.

cadmus2166

June 20th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^

As much as I enjoy both Two Hearted and Hopslam, where the fuck is Oberon on this list? As far as I'm concerned it's the best Bell's beer by a mile.