OSU (YTOSU) G/F Roddy Gayle commits to Michigan
OSU transfer Roddy Gayle announced his commitment to Dusty May's program this morning. Seems like there was a planned rollout of commitments, starting with Pippen and Jones on Friday, Wolf on Saturday, and Donaldson on Sunday.
Things are coming together nicely for Dusty May and company!
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:29 AM ^
Glad I double checked before I hit save on my post.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:30 AM ^
Wow, this is payback for Andrew Dakich.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:31 AM ^
with interest
at today's rates
...ok early 80s
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:30 AM ^
Eat shit, Fuckeyes.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:31 AM ^
Hype train for everything Coach May does is flying
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:31 AM ^
Seems like there was a planned rollout of commitments, starting with Pippen and Jones on Friday, Wolf on Saturday, and Donaldson on Sunday.
Hopefully this means Goldin drops either later today or Tuesday!
Then get Mahaney out of Omaha without a commitment (he posted Sunday on Instagram that he was there) and bring him to A2 and close the deal.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:32 AM ^
How do you feel, Roddy?
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:36 AM ^
But I was told that Michigan could never get a transfer player without admissions shooting them down and that NIL was so bad that no one would be interested anyway.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:45 AM ^
What's up with admissions? Donaldson will have two full years at Auburn, Gayle will have two at OSU, and Wolf two at Yale.
I thought it was basically guys with one year of experience or grad transfers that could get through admissions? I believe that was because generic courses transferred but any major-specific course likely didn't. I guess it's possible they mostly took generic courses for two years, but seems a little unlikely.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:51 AM ^
2 is possible, and trends on likely if the player is willing to give up some academic progress.
You need 48 credits completed after 2 years to be eligible to play. Michigan will accept up to 60, and most people will have finished ~64 by that time. If there are any issues with getting to 48, you have the summer to make up any differences.
There will only be an issue if a player has taken a large number of remedial or otherwise non-transferable classes (such as esoteric seminars). The big problems for upperclassmen (transferring 3/400 level courses and hitting the 60 credit transfer limit) usually aren't issues for sophomores.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:59 AM ^
I'll add that almost every athetlete can get admitted. We use "admissions" to simplify it but the truth is people are admitted without looking at the credits, and then a counselor from that college looks at credits and calls the potential transfer to discuss.
The issue with a jr or sr transfer is they can be admitted, but:
- They will need to retake so many credits (as they need 60 to graduate at Michigan) that their eligibility and scholarship will expire before they can get a degree.
- They could have insufficient progress towards their degree and run into NCAA eligibility issues.
A sophomore with 60 credits will probably get 50 accepted, maybe more. They will need to retake freshman English if in LSA. A Jr with 75 credits only gets 60 accepted, etc. UM requires 60 credits at the University to graduate (plus a certain amount 300/400). That's an entire extra semester to eventually graduate - that may not be covered by scholarship. Some other schools require 45 or 30 credits at their school (much easier to graduate on time and maybe also get a master's degree).
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:12 AM ^
What is special about freshman English?
Speaking from personal experience, 30+ years ago, I transferred 3 trimester courses from MSU to UofM. I received some credits, so that was nice. 3+ years into my UofM studies, the college reviewed the syllabi of the MSU course and the equivalent UofM course, decided that the MSU course was lacking something and docked me a credit. This was so late in the game that I had to stay an extra semester in undergrad. I ended up transferring all but 1 of those final semester credits to grad school, but it was kind of a bummer.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:52 AM ^
I don't think anything has super changed. The staff is just doing due diligence a d targeting the right guys.
Sophs have always been in the Frosh/Grads bucket of getting in. Under 60 credits is doable, as is having a degree already.
Remember, it's about earning a UM degree mainly, not that their grades aren't good enough.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:56 AM ^
Guys with 60 credits or less won't have issues.
Guys with more than 60 credits will only transfer 60 and that makes them run into "academic progress" issues.
1-2 years in college or grad transfers get in. 3rd+ year players can't transfer enough credits
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:57 AM ^
It looks like it wasn't nearly the barrier we were led to believe. After watching 3 weeks of the Dusty May tenure we should be retroactively much angrier about the Juwan Howard tenure. It appears that while admissions is a hurdle, it's not the brick wall we thought it was and NIL while not like Kansas/Kentucky, is also not funded by Iraqi Dinars like we were basically told.
The job requires effort and May has been an A+ there and by the reports a stark contrast from the lacking effort of Juwan and that should make people angry. If you try and fail, sometimes that just happens, but to barely try is so maddening.
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:14 AM ^
Juwan was targeting the wrong kids. It's too bad that someone with institutional knowledge couldn't have provided better advice for him, or that he couldn't figure that out on his own.
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:10 PM ^
The narrative that admissions was making it impossible to succeed was always hard to swallow when our football program won a national title while facing the same standards.
In retrospect, hiring a coach who had no college experience at all (other than as a player) was a bad idea. Communicating with admissions is one of a number of things that simply don’t exist in the pros. I don’t think we’re going to run into too many more Shannon/Love-type situations.
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:59 PM ^
Yeah, not only did they win the NC they had a lot of transfers who contributed - Wallace, Hausman, Stewart, Tuttle, Barner, the kicker (Tucker?), Hinton, Nugent, Henderson.
Harbaugh had figured out how to make the portal/transfers work. For whatever reason, Juwan struggled.
Thanks for the helpful responses here. It sounds like Michigan can primarily target players who have:
- One year of experience
- Two years of experience
- Graduates
It's only the three-year players where we are at a disadvantage (or four years and haven't graduated).
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:36 AM ^
First, we take your souls
Next, we take your coaches (except you Ryan, you stay there)
Then we take your players
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:37 AM ^
Is the expectation now make the tourney? I don’t know how this team is gonna gel but they have some nice talent on this team
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:42 AM ^
I think the last two spots will be the difference. If we get Goldin and another big fish, could be really interesting. Without him and maybe another piece, I think it will still be a solid transition team to a more stable program (early Zak and Stu days anyone?). Going to be competitive and much less consistently painful to watch though, so there is a positive!
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:00 AM ^
I'd say the expectation is be in the bubble conversation going into March. Getting in is a reasonable hope, but I wouldn't say it's reasonable as an expectation. If I'm actually paying attention to Selection Sunday, then I would consider Dusty year 0/1 a success.
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:20 AM ^
My expectation is to get at least 10 wins.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^
I'm liking Dusty "Zero F's Given" Mays
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^
Sounds like from that 24/7 article that he is to be in that FAU Davis role and shoots pretty well from beyond arc. Another player trending in the right direction. Bet he is one of our top 3 scorers next year. Love it.
Goldin next and we are looking at a pretty amazing overhaul.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:48 AM ^
He was 28% from three last year, but he was 43% as a freshman. For his career, he's a 33% shooter (he took more last year). I think there's a chance he settles into a mid-30% shooter on primarily catch and shoot threes. I don't think he'll be a knockdown shooter though.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:53 AM ^
He shot 83% in FT so there's upside. Plus, he played with a wrist injury on his shooting hand which complicates things in shooting and ball handling. He lost confidence in shooting, but I'm confident that he can shoot in the high 30s to low 40s with more volume.
He shot 60% at the rim and can defend. This is a good pick up for Michigan.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:39 AM ^
One Transfer Per Day for Coach May comes through again.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:42 AM ^
Has such a transfer happened before in either sport? I'm...I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel LOL
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:54 AM ^
Justin Boren is the first that comes to mind.
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:01 AM ^
Didn't Joey Vazquez JUST transfer to OSU like 2 months ago?
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:14 PM ^
Yes, as a grad transfer walk-on. Makes sense since he had no FB stats last season and is from Ohio. If he's looking for a masters he gets in-state tuition.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:43 AM ^
Good get
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:49 AM ^
Sign of the times. First we get OSU rb coach. Now we get one of their top hoops players. Great news. Cannot imagine how this must burn their ass.
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:49 AM ^
let me guess.... he was a bum, they didn't want him anyway.....
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:16 PM ^
Lol! That's exactly what they are saying. There are already almost 100 comments at 11WHINERS about how much he sucks...
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:53 AM ^
happy because he's an impact player. but it feels weird
April 22nd, 2024 at 10:55 AM ^
let the eleven warriors meltdown begin !
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:20 AM ^
i took a look over just for shoots and googles. They said that its only because we're paying more and he wanted a pay day! Oh, the irony.
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:08 AM ^
Hell yeah!!!
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:19 AM ^
Got your signs now suckeyes.
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:40 AM ^
Buck the Fuckeyes!!!
April 22nd, 2024 at 11:56 AM ^
walters is dropping later today
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:34 PM ^
Ryan?
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^
Diane
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^
This one would be fascinating, because bama is now a top program, and to take one of their up and coming young guys would be impressive. Granted its a good sell with being the starter at 4 here, but still, to go from a program that is rising to ours that is retooling...
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:01 PM ^
Pretty damn impressive what May has done with the roster given the smoldering crater it was, definitely tournament bid is not out the question at all now if Goldin comes and depending on how well the pieces gel.
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:36 PM ^
The whole 'gel' thing is the big question at this point. If they do, it's (probably) back to the NCAA tourney. My money says they do - everything we've seen from May says the guy wouldn't take a bunch of singular players. Seems like he knows what he's looking for, and that those guys would all be looking for the same thing.
Sorta reminds me of how JmfH put together a roster after the 2020 debacle...
April 22nd, 2024 at 12:22 PM ^
Hope he gets out safely!