OOC Games Against Texas and Oklahoma

Submitted by FlaWolverine22 on December 3rd, 2023 at 2:56 PM

Should we keep them or replace them?

2024 home vs Texas

2025 at Oklahoma

2026 home vs Oklahoma 

2027 at Texas

In my opinion, there's no incentive to keep them. Even with the 12 team playoff, seeding matters especially if we end up with a QB injury like FSU. With the new Big Ten schedule they should be replaced with cupcakes.

jmblue

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^

especially if we end up with a QB injury like FSU.

Travis's injury was simply the fig leaf needed to sneak an SEC team in the top four.  If the Alabama QB had broken his leg, they'd still be in.

Sir Guy

December 3rd, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^

I would like to disagree here. It's devastating, but they're still Conference Champions. That does mean something. Michigan is a Conference Champion. That means something. Especially with the advent of super-conferences, it should mean even more. 

Let's not forget how great of an accomplishment a Conference Championship is!

mfan_in_ohio

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:10 PM ^

More reason to have them now. A loss is not season-crippling, but a win insulates you against a loss elsewhere. Michigan will have Texas, UW, Oregon, USC and Ohio State on the schedule. 3-2 in that group gets them in the playoff, and even 2-3 gives them a chance. LSU almost would have made it this year with 3 losses and their only good win is Mizzou.

AlbanyBlue

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:10 PM ^

With the influx of good teams into the Big Ten, they are not necessary, but I'm not sure it would be easy to shed them. 

Our schedule will be hard enough going forward.

ZooWolverine

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:13 PM ^

With 2 or 4 teams, a tougher schedule with more losses might knock you out, with 12 teams I don't think it hurts you as much. And even this year it goes both ways: if Texas didn't play a strong OOC schedule and beat Alabama, I don't think they're in the playoffs this year. Next year we have a gauntlet in the Big Ten, but I'm generally in favor of more real games. 

Blueisgood

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:22 PM ^

This is a legitimate question to ask. Especially with USC, UCLA, Washington and Oregon going to the B1G and OU & Texas going to the SEC. Theres no incentive playing these games. The conference schedule is going to be enough. The extra W isn't worth the risk of an extra L. Now, I'm not saying have a non conf schedule like the did this year, but schedule a low end P5 non conference opponent, a regional Mac-ish opponent or something along those lines. No need to go out and schedule these high end opponents because it's not going to help. 

LSAClassOf2000

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^

As much as I would love to actually see these teams in person (again, in the case of Texas - I've seen us play Texas in my lifetime), I ask myself as well if the new look Big Ten makes it difficult to justify keeping these matchups, at least the ones that wouldn't be too troublesome to shift or cancel. Part of me would want to ditch them for selfish reasons, but I hesitate because the new playoff format means we can stumble once, maybe twice and still get in with the correct resume. It comes down to what allowable risk would be, in Michigan's estimation, I would guess. 

three_honks

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^

The 2024 schedule includes:

  • Texas
  • USC
  • @Wash
  • Oregon
  • @OSU

This year, the 12 vs 13 rankings cutoff just about coincides with the 2 vs 3 loss line.

I think dropping Texas with that schedule and all of the departures to the NFL would increase the chances of making the playoff.

Mike Jones

December 3rd, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^

I’m all for these home and home series.  Big games in the big house.  No one wants to sit and watch another MAC slaughter.  Ticket prices on the secondary market prove this.  

SMFH58

December 3rd, 2023 at 4:53 PM ^

I hate how football fans want to set up horrible football games. Play games against good teams. So what if we are not national champions. We could go join the MAC and dominate all our opponents. There are way too many weak opponents in the B1G as it is. 

bnoble

December 3rd, 2023 at 5:04 PM ^

The rational decision would be to drop them. But I would rather risk losing a game once in a while than play a bunch of boring-game cupcakes. I'm really looking forward to next year's home slate. It is a solid improvement over some of the dreck I sat through this year.

 

Yostal

December 3rd, 2023 at 5:26 PM ^

Given that Texas and Michigan was important enough to Fox to get the order of the games flipped so that Michigan hosted in 2024 so Fox could televise the game, thus allowing Texas to move a year early to the SEC, I do not see how Michigan is going to get out of this game.