December 7th, 2017 at 9:21 AM ^
The waivers will come or the ncaa and ole miss can plan on a class action lawsuit from ole miss players. They were openly lied to by Freeze about what the sanctions would be. I highly doubt the ncaa and especially ole miss want federal investigators uncovering more wrong doings in a case they are sure to lose. They really have no choice unless they want everthing that was going on at ole miss revealed to the public. This could hurt the ncaa and ole miss in so many ways, I personally feel the waivers are a done deal.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
"I personally feel the waivers are a done deal."
I think I agree. The way both sides (the 3 players and UM) are talking, visits, etc., and the smoke around the whole thing seems like they know it already.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 9:53 AM ^
So does Harbaugh, or he would not be spending all this time and effort in freaking Mississippi.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:23 AM ^
Correct. And I believe it wasn't just Freeze who lied to them but also the NCAA as well when they were contacted prior to last season. That is why waivers would be a lock. There's no way they want investigators to have an in so to speak that will lead to discovery and depositions. They don't want their cash cow crumbling.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 9:40 AM ^
I really don't understand how the numbers for this are going to work without forcing some committed kids out of this class and that feels real shitty.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
Nubmers I've seen thrown around on this site indicates room for 20-22 incoming. Currently there are 16 commits from HS, with these thress we'd be up to 19 incoming, so still a little room.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
There is also Jarret Patterson who is visiting, the ath from georgia that wiltfong put in a crystal ball for and Tyler Friday that most people expect to show up in this class. Getting to 22 also involves giving firm handshakes to guys like JBB and Lawrence Marshall which seems a tad bit risky to me given the extremely young depth along both lines.
Its just starting to get incredibly tight in this class and sort of walls of the ability of being able to bring in a surpise late elite recruit. What happens if Chase wants to commit in addition to the guys listed? What about Petit-Frere?
December 7th, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^
i don't think JBB will be getting a firm handshake.
December 7th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
And I think that's AK's point. If we have room left for 6 guys total, and we take 3 transfers, that leaves 3 spots max.
Jamarr Chase, Tyler Friday, Eyabi Anoma, Nick Petit-Frere, Talanoa Hufanga, Tommy Tremble, Luke Ford, Michael Barrett, Rick Sandidge, Jason Oweh, Chris Olave, etc.
There's some longshots in there but we're in the thick of it for a bunch of those guys. If dominos fall and they want to come to Michigan, you're either telling them no, processing current commits, or looking at 5th year guys like JBB to make room.
The numbers look sketchy to me as well. I'm not sure why AK is getting downvoted on this one.
December 7th, 2017 at 12:08 PM ^
Visits and interest don't equal commits.
Michigan may not lead for any of these players so we may be projecting a problem where one doesn't exist.
The numbers are a bit tight, but this feels like looking for a problem.
Frankly, if this helps balance out class sizes then I am all for it.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
A lot are speculating that Otis Reese doesn't stick so that would drop the HS class to 15, freeing up one more spot.
December 7th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 10:02 AM ^
We have had at least 3 transfer announcements, maybe some unexpected, so I think there is room.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:04 AM ^
Assuming the Depth Chart is updated. We are at 85 schollys with the current 16 commits. There are a few players up for 5th year that might get the ole handshake. There ought to be a couple "getting late early" players that see the writing on the wall. That happens every season.
Latest updates have class size at 20-22, so with 3 transfers, assume 17-19. So 1-3 more recruits.
Some kids may get 'forced' out, but I think Harbaugh knows the right/less wrong way to do that.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:46 AM ^
I enjoy assimilating quarterbacks who can run and throw.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
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December 7th, 2017 at 10:14 AM ^
is played by Hugh Freeze in today's update.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^
It's about time we get feared again. Adding All-Big players will always work.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
It will be helpful to get the extra depth. I do think we should pump the breaks a bit on their impact. I'm not even sure Patterson wins the job. But the exrtra depth will help at all three positions.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
Brakes. And if Patterson is eligible, he will win the job most likely. But if he doesn't, great. That means we have BP lighting it up and playing at his best.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^
He'll be eligible. Jimmy did his HW. What makes you think BP can light it up anyway?
December 7th, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^
People forget that Peters entered the year as the 3rd string QB, and has played only 2 full games with obvious training wheels on.
He may indeed wind up ahead of Patterson, but there is no direct evidence to support the assumption that that is a given.
December 7th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
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December 7th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^
The 2018 team is a playoff contender and can't afford a learning phase. Someone has to start in South Bend on Sept. 1 who knows what they're doing.
For the record, I don't care who it is, just that they're competent and ready to go. Not having adequate time to learn the O is a legitimate concern to have about Patterson, but who knows. Maybe he's a savant. It happens.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:37 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
will shed additional light on where Peters is in his evolution as "the man" at QB. Peters is not much older since the Badger game, but probably a little wiser, especially when it comes to that "sixth sense" while in the pocket. And the O-line might have undergone somewhat of an epiphany (i.e., a sudden, intuitive grasp of reality) when it comes to covering D-line stunts and linebacker blitzes.
New Year's Day should see a decent if not good pass-pro O-line and a starting QB who (after a good performance) believes he's ready to take on any challenger for his job, however much hype that challenger might bring with him.
December 7th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
They're already All-B1G players? Damn!!! They must have been really good at Ole Miss last year!!!
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December 7th, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^
As long as they come in and are ready to earn their playing time, this is all good by me.
December 7th, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^
Oops, reply fail.
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December 7th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^
...that sounds creepy and disgusting. And hence, Kevin Nash does NOT sound like a great guy.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
Lighten up, Frances. 1986 was not 2017 ... but I’m guessing you wont get that and will call me creepy too. Lol.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
The assistant bball coach, who I would peg somewhere in the 30-yr old range, 'popular' with the cheerleaders, who would still be in high school.
That's kinda creepy whether its 1986 or 2017.
December 7th, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^
Fact they pursuing 3 instead of the 7 that some are reporting. He did say he felt really good about Patterson and Van Jefferson, and had no real feeling about Deontay Anderson. He said he is definitely a take, he just wasn't sure of his level of interest.
December 7th, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^