Ohio State vs. Alabama: Who deserves to be in? Who will the committee put in?
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
Except that the next time there is a choice between a Big Ten team and some other team for the Playoff . . . and that Big Ten team is Michigan, it won't be ideal for us.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
It’s better for college football if the conference championship games actually mean something. Make them part of the playoff.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:17 AM ^
they should take Alabama
on the positive side, either Nick or Urbs will be whining, so there's that
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^
How would all of us Michigan fans feel if we had osu's resume and just beat an undefeated Wisconsin to win the conference title?
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
Ridiculous. I would remember that we got in last year, despite not winning our conference. I would also remember that we choked our asses off against Iowa.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:25 AM ^
If Alabama gets in, people will say the committee is biased. They are putting Alabama in as a "lifetime achievement" award, not on anything legitimate.
They are going to get axccused no matter what they do. They are in a no-win situation.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:26 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:36 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:40 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^
Whereas, on the other hand, if Bama gets in, the Big 10 is shut out completely. I’m telling you: given who is on the Committee, that isn’t going to happen.
I’m not advocating one over the other; I’m just confident that OSU is in.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
The Big Ten is capable of raising holy hell as well.
Somebody influential and powerful is going to scream bloody murder.
The committee can't worry about that.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
You gotta be kidding me.
You lose in November to a 7-5 team by 31 and you deserve to compete for a national championship? That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all year, and I've heard some whoppers this year.
They have an additional loss.
That additional loss, when compared to Alabama's ONLY loss, is worse.
Alabama lost on the road. OSU's loss was AT HOME.
What, regular season losses don't count anymore in something as restrictive as a 4 team playoff?
This isn't CBB, where quality wins put you in a 68 team field.
This is CFB, where you're supposed to have little, if any, margin for error. You lose at home and get boatraced by a 7-5 team in November? Sorry, but fuck you. Actually, not sorry. FUCK OHIO STATE.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
in November to a near .500 team.
You don't look to "at least" to put a team in 4 team playoff who is guilty of that sin.
If it were a one off loss, in this year, maybe.
But it was their second loss and it was a mama hide the children style whupping.
It's disqualifying. And once you're disqualified, you don't look to the "at least" category.
Also, fuck Ohio State. Or are you not clear on that point?
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
Rematch of OSU vs Clemson. Might be a *little* closer this time.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^
If OSU gets in they will get throttled worse than they did last season. Clemson is awfully good, perhaps better than they were last season.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^
I think OSU is quite a bit stronger in the run game. What'll be interesting to me is how effective JT will be vs. Clemson -- a team that's quite a bit better than Wisconsin -- and how long a leash he'll be given. If I'm Meyer, I'm not hesitating too long to pull him for my backup if needed, because we've all seen what he can do.
If I had to pick a score now?
Clemson - 35
Ohio State - 23
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^
According to Sagarin, OSU's strength of schedule was 12 spots higher (42, as opposed to 54) even before OSU played Wisconsin, so it seems unlikely that Alabama could have a stronger SOS by any measure at this point.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
Make no mistake, OSU got in last year becuase of the name of their head coach. They would've got in this year too, but unfortuantely for them, the spot they are going after is also the same spot Nick Saban is going after. And there is a hierarchy of coaches.
It's pretty much why we were ranked this year, no? The Harbaugh factor. Only teams with name brand head coaches get ranked regardless if they only have one returning starter or not. Seems like getting into the CFP works the same if you are on the bubble.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^
I should've clarified - when I was refering to the Michigan ranking - I meant the AP/Coaches polls earlier in the year.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
One loss, no real game changing wins. that team was left out.
I know we hate OSU, but I just don’t see what the majority of this board is seeing saying bama deserves to be in.
Their best win is LSU and Miss st
That is the equivalent of beating MSU and Michigan.
OSU also beat psu.
Better wins > bad loss
Conference champion > non division winner.
Let not be delusional OSU should be in before bama.
I will go throw up now that I have wrote all of this.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^
I could live with that.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
I can't believe it's okay to get fucking steamrolled by a near .500 team in November for your second loss and still get in to a FOUR team playoff.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
The committee left B1G champ PSU out last season mainly due to their 39 point loss to Michigan. I can see the committee doing the same thing to OSU this season with that Iowa massacre being the main reason. Clemson - Alabama is a title game rematch and it makes for better TV than Clemson - OSU. I think there is about a 10% chance OSU gets in.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^
Except that last year the decision to swap OSU for PSU was low-cost. They were putting in a Big Ten team regardless.
This year, that decison has a very high cost. They would be leaving out a Big Ten team in favor of two SEC teams.
That's the nuclear threshold, and they know it.
December 3rd, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
to a mediocre Iowa team, how about that?
Fuck the Big Ten. Sorry, some years a conference has no worthy representatives. They have two losses, one at home, and one a blowout plus to a 7-5 team. It's ridiculous.