bronxblue

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^

Yeah, my guess is the latter because neither party wants this to go south.  Warde because he wants a coach and Howard because it would look pretty bad if he messed up an opportunity to coach at a major college program where he has deep connections.

This feels like one of those tweets where a guy puts in scare words to get more attention.  The only relevant information is the first sentence.

True Blue Grit

May 22nd, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^

Almost certainly the latter.  The days of the handshake agreements with coaching hires is long over.  There are many terms to reach agreement on - salary being the biggest - but many other important ones as well.  Michigan is likely to have all kinds of incentive clauses for certain achievements like making the NCAA tournament, graduation rates, etc., as an example.  Then there's the requirments, pay, etc. for assistant coaches.  The list goes on.  It doesn't get done in a few hours.

JHendo

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^

Firstly because your expectations seem a bit high.  But also because Harbaugh was a foregone conclusion from pretty much day 1 even though it officially took a month to happen.  We all honestly were unsure what was going to happen with this job until yesterday when were a little over a week in.

jmblue

May 22nd, 2019 at 1:08 PM ^

Harbaugh was a foregone conclusion from pretty much day 1

I don't think we saw it that way at the time.  There were lots of "He'll never leave the pros" articles and sound bites in circulation.  And of course Oakland was still in play.

It wasn't until about three weeks in (around Christmas) that it clearly seemed like it was happening.

1VaBlue1

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:48 PM ^

We knew Harbaugh was the only candidate before he was even available!  It took a while for San Fran to ex-employ him.  Jim wasn't going to resign, and thus lose a lot of contract value, so we had to wait forever for things to 'officially' start moving...

bronxblue

May 22nd, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^

Honestly?  I think because people were coming off of the Hoke/RR eras and so a chance to not go through another couple years of shit made people more patient.  The basketball team played for a title 2 years ago and made a good run last year.  Nobody wants to move on from Beilein.

Also, Maizen hadn't figured out the internet yet so you had fewer shitposts.

ldd10

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^

Based on what?  Not saying Howard won't be a decent coach, but he was one of the few people that would likely accept the job no matter what.  Warde appeared to have inquired with other coaches that declined.  He then went to Howard who brings plenty of positives as well as negatives as a candidate. 

Not Warde's fault - the timing was awful - but not really sure what classifies this as a "hell of a good job".

grumbler

May 22nd, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^

It wasn't the spot that he should have been shouting about.  The spot was at least plausibly correct.  What was infuriating was that the refs gave OSU a free hand to mug every Michigan receiver in the fourth quarter (to the point that the BiG had to later apologize officially)..  Warde let that pass without comment.

grumbler

May 22nd, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^

It wasn't the spot that he should have been shouting about.  The spot was at least plausibly correct.  What was infuriating was that the refs gave OSU a free hand to mug every Michigan receiver in the fourth quarter (to the point that the BiG had to later apologize officially)..  Warde let that pass without comment.

CRISPed in the DIAG

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:48 PM ^

I was giving this some thought and it deserves a better post by someone more intelligent than me. But it seems like Warde has been unremarkable during his tenure so far.  There has been some legitimate concern that he didn't do enough to keep Beilein earlier this month when he reportedly knew about the Cavs offer. There wasn't a dance with one of the big names - not that any of us really expected one - but it seems disappointing to not even get any interest from a single upper-tier coach. At the end, it probably doesn't matter.

Posters have also grumbled about the football scheduling (eg not advocating for the series with ND to restart at home or not scheduling a tune-up before heading to S Bend to play under the lights).

Otherwise, he hasn't done anything that we can point to as a smashing success, for what all that's worth. But sometimes that gig is about making the trains run on time and Warde has generally kept things afloat. I suppose if he's able to close this negotiation with Juwan, we could call it a positive accomplishment. Many others (hey, Maizen) will not.

68 Wolverine

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^

I certainly hope Juwan does great if he get's the job (or when). I just don't think he's the best hire at this point. Unfortunately John Beilein didnt do us any favors leaving when he did and left us in this position.

 

#GoBlue

mGrowOld

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^

The other guy.  You know, that dude who's been uber successful everywhere he coaches but has always secretly dreamed of being the head coach for Michigan basketball.  The guy who will assure us of a never-ending series of B1G championships and tournament victories all the while running a program that makes Beilein look like Sean Miller it's so squeeky clean.  A basic cross between the Golden State Warriors and the New England Patriots.

That guy.  

ak47

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^

You don't offer unless you think you can get them to accept. I'd be pretty surprised if he isn't the coach formally by tomorrow morning.

sdogg1m

May 22nd, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^

There will be misplaced enthusiasm on this board for this hire mainly because of the fondness of the fab five era but all I remember is basketball without discipline. Juwan has zero head coaching experience let alone head coaching experience at the highest level with a major program.

The leaders and the best should stop making poor choices that wastes years for the program.