Nebraska eyeing reentry into AAU
Thought this news worthy a thorough looks at some AAU NU admittance requirement hurdles.
OSU new president, NU's last president, established the motto "Everthing AAU" as a goal for readdmission. Sounds like he has/had the support of faculty and the board.
One of the biggest issues was changing how they administratively report their research dollars among their campuses, which they changed in the 1960s and which reversing back again would really adjust thier number back in line with current members.
September 4th, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
They will get in and immediately lose the equivalent of a one score game.
September 4th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
I.e., the AAU notifies Nebraska that it almost qualified but didn't dot an "I" in their application.
September 4th, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^
Their problem will be with spelling: "Application for ReadXission".
September 4th, 2023 at 5:42 PM ^
And that “i” was in an addendum to the original application to correct a typo that had the “i” properly dotted.
They were estimated to have a 98% chance of rejoining until the addendum was sent out.
September 4th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
If Stony Brook, MSU, and OSU can be members, I'm not sure why I've seen the AAU regarded as some kind of elite thing.
September 4th, 2023 at 12:17 PM ^
Come on, man. These are all some of the top research universities in the US
September 4th, 2023 at 12:44 PM ^
Im so tired of Michigan fans being overly-elitist about Michigans rankings. Yeah, its an elite school. But just because some other school in 50 spots behind Michigan doesnt mean its trash
id be willing to bet half the people saying stuff like that are not even alums
September 4th, 2023 at 1:05 PM ^
Didn't you get the manual? It's right there on page one of the Michigan fan instructions even before relentless criticism of our own successes.
September 4th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
Im so tired of Michigan fans being overly-elitist about alumni status. My dad was just a big a fan as anyone I've ever met but wasn't an alumni. There are some who'd say my degree from U of M Flint isn't enough either.
September 4th, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
U of M Flint students are eligible for student tickets. Good enough for me.
September 4th, 2023 at 2:18 PM ^
So they're Walmart Academics?
September 4th, 2023 at 5:55 PM ^
As most on this board know, I'm a stickler for preserving the academic integrity of the university and the conference. Yes, it would be better if every BIG school was AAU and we really should continue with that as it is one of the original signature criteria for membership. But that doesn't mean that I'm elitist about it. Joking aside about Nebraska and others, there are many fine research universities in the U.S. with very talented students and faculty and where you can get a perfectly fine education that are not named the University of Michigan. There's a point where the maize-and-blue goggles become more than just arrogant but obnoxious.
Moreover, we need to get off of our high horse. According to many league tables we are not even the top ranked public university in the U.S. let alone amongst the top 10 overall including private universities (e.g. USNR, Times Higher Education, etc.) Let's regain that throne before we start bagging on other schools. Maybe we can learn something from our competition and make ourselves better.
September 4th, 2023 at 7:48 PM ^
Damn, I forgot you were the academic stickler, I'll do better next time.
September 5th, 2023 at 12:24 AM ^
I don't bad mouth other schools academics and I'm an alum of UM.
September 4th, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^
I'm not sure if you care, but every time your name is on a post I just assume it's going to be terrible. Almost without fail, I am right. You and a few others never cease to make this site a worse place. Please consider not posting.
September 4th, 2023 at 10:54 PM ^
I asked a basic question and despite everyone's incessant bitching not one of you on here bothered to answer it.
You just whine - just like everyone else on here.
I still don't understand why the AAU is good or bad. You just decided to interpret my question as an elitist dig when it wasn't.
September 4th, 2023 at 11:17 PM ^
Point total checks out.
September 4th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
As an alum of Stony Brook, just say you don't know anything about the school and its research endeavors.
September 4th, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^
I have no real opinion on the first 2 (although I am inclined to think you are being overly picky/snobby) but OSU has massively changed over the last several decades. That's a top 50 undergraduate university right there. Gordon Gee changed a lot of stuff there regarding admissions. Your snobbery regarding OSU is definitely out of date.
Ironically the most backlash I saw against Nebraska joining the B1G regarding their academics came from OSU fans I know.
September 4th, 2023 at 12:02 PM ^
How is this not OT tbh? It's a different school, and it has nothing to do with collegiate athletics.
September 4th, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
Unless the AAU is the new name of a conference that used to end in 12, it should be OT.
September 4th, 2023 at 12:52 PM ^
Nebraska is a Big Ten team and anything is anything, hence, this is sadly On Topic.
ONTOPIC
- Anything Michigan sports related
- Anything related to other Big Ten teams or upcoming opponents
- Stuff about the blog itself
- University of Michigan topics that don't relate to sports
September 4th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^
Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense and I should have looked it up myself.
September 4th, 2023 at 11:23 PM ^
It's also relevant to the academic/research prestige of the Big10. The Big10 has been 100% AAU until Nebraska lost it's standing. If they can recover it it would be a good thing.
September 4th, 2023 at 7:50 PM ^
Now that was funny. +1
September 4th, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^
Marginal because it could be relevant to conference expansion/realignment if the B1G decided to make AAU membership a condition.
September 4th, 2023 at 1:00 PM ^
My understanding is that the conference not only works on getting funds for sports, it is also used as a collective for securing research grants. Not necessarily sharing funds, but the access to resources and cooperation.. AAU membership is very important when it comes to being awarded research grants. Nebraska getting readmitted into the AAU effects Michigan, so it's not O.T.
(Edit: There are people far more knowledgeable about how this works, and I could be wrong.)
September 4th, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^
Thank you for just answering my question instead of being a knob.
September 5th, 2023 at 12:26 AM ^
Yes, and the Duke vs Clemson game post was OT?
September 4th, 2023 at 12:09 PM ^
Requirement number one:
-Less corn-based courses.
--AAU
September 4th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^
Fewer*
-- Stannis
September 4th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^
Nice. Upvoted.
September 4th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^
Doesn't look good for Illinois and Iowa then. 😳
September 4th, 2023 at 12:17 PM ^
I'd guess it's maybe Semi-OT. Considering all the 17/18 other Big Ten members are AAU members, I thought it news worthy. My apologies if it doesn't make the cut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities
September 4th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
You beat me to it. It looks like Nebraska was voted out the year they joined the B1G. I wonder if any B1G shcools voted them out as it would have been counter to their best interests.
After doing a small dive it is noted that current members were also founding members (1900) -
Public:
Michigan
UC Berkley
Wisky
Private:
Chicago
Columbia
Cornell
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
Penn
Princeton
Stanford
Yale
Other long time members:
UVA (1904)
Illinois, Minny, Mizzou (1908)
Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, (Nebraska) (1909)
aOSU (1916)
NW (1917)
The B1G has by far more schools in AAU than any other conference 13 of 14 soon to be 17/18
Ivy - 8
ACC - 7 (if you include ND)
September 4th, 2023 at 2:06 PM ^
We should count Chicago as well. Bring back the Maroons!
September 4th, 2023 at 2:37 PM ^
Chicago is still part of our research consortium.
September 4th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^
I've heard this for years, never really knew what it meant but I always picture a locker room that resembles the law library or the hall at Hogwarts filled with nerds.
September 4th, 2023 at 9:58 PM ^
They were, but I'm pretty sure that went by the way side when Rutgers and Maryland on boarded.
September 4th, 2023 at 3:22 PM ^
Chicago is still affiliated with the B1G in many ways. They were certainly there at the beginning. And Johns Hopkins and Notre Shame are associate members today in LaX and Hockey respectively.
Within a decade of its founding the B1G would have more AAU members than the Ivies.
September 4th, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^
Yes. We were reportedly one of two B1G schools that voted in favor of their ouster (Wisconsin is rumored to be the other). And wouldn't you know it, they lost by two votes.
Just shameful if you ask me. We can make up for it by supporting their re-entry now.
September 4th, 2023 at 7:54 PM ^
We must have had a good reason to vote them out.
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September 4th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Good luck, NU.
And for your next initiative: change the University of Nebraska's initials to UN.
September 4th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
But then an even greater force emerged--the UN.
September 4th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
Wasn’t the main issue that they don’t have a medical school in Lincoln (because it’s in Omaha)?
September 4th, 2023 at 2:42 PM ^
That was one issue (because all of Nebraska's med school research didn't count) but another issue was that the AAU gives little weight to agricultural research. Which is dumb and elitist, in my opinion.
September 4th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^
Somewhere, upon reading this, a frustrated MSU guy tears up his grant proposal on cow tipping.
September 4th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
Regarding the Agricultural research, the article says that's it's because those grants are given out by formula and do not need to go through a competive process like the rest of the research grants dollars do.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:25 AM ^
It’s very elitist of them, and one of the main reasons why I dislike the AAU
September 4th, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^
Can you elucidate? I mean Penn State does not have one in State College/University Park either. As a matter of fact, Penn State's specialties are oddly spread out. If you so much as mention business or engineering in a serious way on your undergraduate application you will be admitted to Penn State Behrend (outside Erie) for example, with the option to switch to State College after 2 years. The main medical campus is in Hershey I believe--and ironically if you live in State College they send you to non Penn State hospitals for specialized care (State College itself is a bit of a medical dessert for anything but sports medicine-surprise surprise, but there are better hospitals much closer than Hershey). Penn State is a good school but for those of us coming from other states (in my case Virginia, Ohio and Michigan are the state systems I am most familiar with) it is organized very differently.