The Morning After
November 1st, 2020 at 7:13 AM ^
Fire them all. The program is a laughingstock. The fanbase is in turmoil. There's no hope of becoming relevant in the near future.
Hire Eric Bienemy.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:35 AM ^
That won’t happen. NFL teams are lining up for his services (Jets, Cowboys, Falcons, lions)
November 1st, 2020 at 8:10 AM ^
I know.
But if you ain't got dreams, you got nightmares.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
I got dreams. Now I just need a longboard and some Ocean Spray Cran-raspberry juice and I'm ready to catch a vibe.
November 1st, 2020 at 9:38 AM ^
Let them hire him. Go talk to either coordinator at bama, Georgia or Clemson as a start
November 1st, 2020 at 8:27 AM ^
Serious question -- is an NFL guy really the best approach?
I'm scanning my memory for an NFL coach coming "down" to the college game and doing well. I'm struggling to come up with a name. Most of the great college coaches started out in the college game and "grew up" there. The NFL is a different game, and I often wonder if those from that world have expectations that your average college player can't fulfill. The great college coaches seem to understand this better, and are better suited to design *around* the relative weaknesses.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^
Pete Carroll comes to mind.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
Good point ... I'd overlooked him. But then again, he succeeded in the college game doing things that ended up making him tuck tail and run back to the NFL. Meaning: I don't think he *naturally* succeeded in the college game.
November 1st, 2020 at 9:02 AM ^
Your point still stands. I named one guy. The exception is not the rule
November 1st, 2020 at 9:12 AM ^
Ehhh - the guy had generational talents and was a good coach. Overlooking Reggie Bush getting paid by an agent is not what led to him winning. He locked down elite California recruits. You now have those guys leaving to go to the SEC, including moving out of the state to get into those better programs. It’s all very cyclical.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
I say no to any more NFL coaches. We’ve got an NFL minded coach right now and we can all see the problems that generates. Considering the fact that we are a COLLEGE team, we need a COLLEGE minded coach.
November 1st, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
So nick Saban is a definite no?
November 1st, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
Nothing NFL about Saban. That was a pit stop.
November 1st, 2020 at 10:27 AM ^
Here is a novel concept. How about Michigan looks to hire the best coach available. If that happens to be a white conservative christian with a Southern accent or a Hispanic atheist from Portland just hire the best person for the job. Period.
I know we all thought we hit the jackpot with JH, but for reasons known and unknown it has been an epic failure with the expectations virtually everyone had. I just hope Michigan doesn’t torpedo the next “RR” or do a stupid “Michigan Hire” with a “Brady Hoke”.
November 1st, 2020 at 10:10 AM ^
I would swap a Jim for a John Harbaugh without a moment's hesitation.
November 1st, 2020 at 10:18 AM ^
Yep, we got the wrong Harbaugh.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:14 AM ^
I've been up since 3:30 passing a kidney stone, which was more enjoyable than watching that game.
I don't think there was any overreaction at all, this was a game Harbaugh could not lose and he did. There is no coming back from it. He has lost most of the fanbase, even the biggest defenders.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:26 AM ^
I had one senior year man, those are terrible. Hope you are feeling better and you take care of yourself today.
I'm with you, the idea that "he will beat teams he should" no longer applies. Michigan needs to commit to a rehaul.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:27 AM ^
Oh man, take care of yourself my friend.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:27 AM ^
Is it a matter of not intaking enough fluids?. I never want one of those!
November 1st, 2020 at 7:32 AM ^
Working in a hospital, I would say obesity and diet are huge risk factors. But honestly it could happen to anyone. So keep your fingers crossed.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:37 AM ^
Im switching to light beer
November 1st, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
Light beer?? Hey, wait a minute - let's not talk crazy here!
I've had them on and off for years. Passing them isn't fun, but what's worse is waiting for them to pass. It's like having a severe toothache in your side and not knowing how long the pain is gonna last.
In that sense, it's much like UM football.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:12 AM ^
I've had a recent history with those. I take 2500mg of vitamin c every day and drink a lot of water.
It seems to have helped.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:17 AM ^
Unfortunately that black pit isn't going anywhere until Harbaugh does. Into year six all he has done is bring the program back to decency. He does not have a signature win to hang his hat on, and this team is light years from competing for any type of championship. Their recruiting while not horrible overall has been deficient in key areas of the field. The fiery coach we thought we were getting has turned into a docile old man and the team plays like that. Time to move on.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:17 AM ^
I have been in the Harbaugh corner this whole time. At this time I think its time to start exploring something new. Whether thats showing Don Brown the door or finding someone to replace Harbaugh. But something needs to change. Brown's lack of willingness to adjust his defense when the corners are getting torched by fucking Rocky Lombardi made me want to throw my tv. The offensive playcalling was like years past. If you'd told me that Jim gave Gattis a play sheet to use for this game I'd believe you.
November 1st, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^
I don't think there's any reason to not believe that. I think it's 100% true.
November 1st, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
There is no way Gattis called that game. It was a total departure from last week against Minnesota. I believe that the thought their o-line would be week and they could keep it vanilla and just run the ball. Possibly to eliminate getting film in the offense. Backfired horribly.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:18 AM ^
Embarrassing loss. Do whatever it takes to keep this years recruiting, even if it means announcing an extension but not really doing it, then mutually depart. Worst loss since, I don’t even know. Just embarrassing
November 1st, 2020 at 7:32 AM ^
Do mean announce an extension publicly but in all actuality it is a severance/separation package or agreement to part ways! Not sure that will fly with UM being a public university, books open and all.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:32 AM ^
Do mean announce an extension publicly but in all actuality it is a severance/separation package or agreement to part ways! Not sure that will fly with UM being a public university, books open and all.
November 1st, 2020 at 11:39 AM ^
As if it isn't bad enough that players don't get paid, you want the university to lie and say they are extending Harbaugh in order to trick 17 year olds into keeping their commitment tore UM?
WTF?
Do you think the NCAA would prevent a single recruit from getting out of any commitment in that situation? Did you consider loss of respect, hit to reputation and the harm this would do to all future recruiting classes?
What a harebrained comment.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:19 AM ^
Exactly the same. If anything, I'm more convinced this guy will never win here.
November 1st, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
I knew he never would after the MSU rain game. Each loss like yesterday reaffirms my initial thought.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:21 AM ^
I'm reminded of the scene from "Slap Shot" where Killer Carlson is chanting "I am One with the Universe" while anarchy reigns all around.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:24 AM ^
Nope, it's still the right move to get rid of Harbaugh this year or give him the Kiffin treatment in 2021.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:51 AM ^
Harbaugh should have gotten the Kiffin treatment in the tunnel in Michigan Stadium yesterday.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:25 AM ^
Still want Harbaugh fired, Still want a new young coach who isn't stick in 1980, Still want a coach who fires up his team to play rivals and not 3-3 vs MSU 0-6 vs OSU. 1-5 vs OSU/MSU at Home.
Luke Fickel is still my hope for the end of the year, He has a beef with OSU passing him over for Ryan Day and would be perfect setup of a scorned coach wanting revenge.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:29 AM ^
Harbaugh also 1-4 in bowl games.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:30 AM ^
I didn’t know there was beef there. That makes things interesting. Fickell is the number one option for any program right now I’d say
November 1st, 2020 at 7:35 AM ^
Said it a couple times yesterday, but Fickell would be a great hire.
He would be #1 on my list.
Harbaugh must go. The sooner the better.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:05 AM ^
Its nothing of a public fued by any stretch but rumors are that he was told by Urban when he went back to his old job as a coordinator after the interim year (when Tressle scandal). That if Urban left he would be a sort of associate coach in waiting and would be high on getting a 2nd chance to be the coach of OSU. because he really wasn't ready the first time. after the 2016 year something changed and it was felt that it was no longer the case so he took the Cincinnati Job even with Rumors of Urban's Health scare..
Atleast that is how i've heard the rumor. Again who know's but to think he would turn down Michigan would be very hard to believe and setup a pretty solid rivalry.
or its all bullshit, Ryan Day is the next coach of the Lions and Luke Fickel is OSU's coach next year beating us down.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:25 AM ^
Made an account just to post this, I’ve been lurking for years.
For what it’s worth Urbans son is a walk on wide receiver at UC. I wouldn’t think Fickell would allow that if there was too much beef
November 1st, 2020 at 8:38 AM ^
I’ve read the same rumors as posted above. If Fickell did have some kind of beef against OSU it wasn’t directed at Meyer but probably Gene Smith.
Im not sure who calls the shots on who’s getting hired at OSU but I don’t think it was Meyers decision to make.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^
Made an account just to post this, I’ve been lurking for years.
For what it’s worth Urbans son is a walk on wide receiver at UC. I wouldn’t think Fickell would allow that if there was too much beef
November 1st, 2020 at 9:44 AM ^
I like this and on board with Fickell. Seems very similar circumstances to Bo arriving at UM.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:25 AM ^
The gross feeling of losing to rutgers will be there a while, but the real pain is from knowing how wide the gap is between this sorry ass program and the bigs.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:27 AM ^
We lost to msu... Not the end of the world. This is a full practice season so who knows what will happen.
My main gripe is man coverage. Why do we continually fail our corners? It is the coaches job to train them up and put them in position for success.
What happened to bend but not break?
November 1st, 2020 at 7:31 AM ^
MSU has one of the most depleted rosters in the Big Ten. They were literally scrambling for grad transfers to fill out the roster. They lost tons of players on both sides of the ball. No matter what losses Michigan had, this is not a game michigan should lose if they want to Consider themselves elite.
To be candid, to act like losing to a in-state rival is "not the end of the world" sort of illustrates how apathy has ingrained this program and this fan base.
November 1st, 2020 at 7:46 AM ^
The problem with us as fans is that we believe just because we are Michigan opponents are going to run and cower in fear... The whole week the media shat on msu and we are it up.
If you think we are going to fire Harbaugh this year during a pandemic, it ain't happening. Call it what it is, but UM isn't the big dog in the BIG and never really was. It pains for me to say that.
But I'm not going to cry tears of blood losing to msu by 3 points. Our mistakes are fixable, but Don Brown doesn't want to change his man coverage hard on.