Moore Recruiting Potential as HC?

Submitted by Killer Khakis on January 25th, 2024 at 6:39 PM

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/longformarticle/tmi-takes-a-look-at-the-recruiter-of-sherrone-moore-and-several-of-the-top-ten-commits-he-helped-land-at-michigan-226100225/

With Jim gone to LA, it’s expected Sherrone Moore takes over as HC. A negative of Harbaugh’s NFL saga that has been bemoaned often here was the repercussions that had on recruiting. If Sherrone is HC, he has a track record of being a great recruiter, I’d imagine we may see recruiting see an uptick (especially with that “new coach smell” most programs get when a new coach comes in). Obviously the staff has shown scouting and development to further than starz, but it’s nice to know Moore has been able to identify high level talent and recruit them to UM.

Notable Moore recruits are…

Dax Hill- Primary Recruiter

JJ McCarthy- Primary Recruiter

Donovan Edwards- Secondary Recruiter 

Andrew Gentry- Primary Recruiter 

Giovani El-Hadi- Primary Recruiter

AJ Henning- Primary Recruiter 

Maxi Smith- Secondary Recruiter 

Braiden McGregor- Primary Recruiter 

Tyler Morris- Secondary Recruiter 

Andrew Sprague- Primary Recruiter 

Trevor Keegan- Primary Recruiter 

Roman Wilson- Secondary Recruiter

Rayshaun Benny- Primary Recruiter

Semaj Morgan- Secondary Recruiter 

Blake Frazier- Primary Recruiter 

 

lhglrkwg

January 26th, 2024 at 9:10 AM ^

I think it's a big factor, but Michigan's never gonna be the school buying a top 5 player with a check up front. That's for Columbus and Coral Gables. Hopefully they can find a way to continue with the strong culture we have and also be competitive. You want to get top 100 guys, but you don't want to be TAMU with a bunch of undisciplined guys clearly there only for the check

AnthonyThomas

January 26th, 2024 at 12:11 AM ^

This right here. The way some people talk about recruiting here is as if it should be a point of pride for the program to make the acquisition of talent harder than it has to be. Nothing is guaranteed. There's no rule saying M will find the Mason Grahams and Kenneth Grants of the world at a consistent enough rate to keep up its current success. Recruiting is ultimately a variance game. Get as many high-level bullets in the chamber as you can get and your team will benefit from it over 3-4 year windows. 

bluebyyou

January 26th, 2024 at 7:06 AM ^

 You can't exist as an elite program with "diamonds" as a primary recruiting tool.  Some of those players will not turn out to be diamonds.

Even 5* or highly ranked 4* players may not reach their potential, but the odds are in their favor. JJ, Blake, Will Johnson, Donovan - all were highly ranked.

And of course NIL money.  The regents and others who are living in another time, need to get their heads out of their butts and realize that the game has changed.  We got very lucky with team 145, many of whom came on board before NIL and also had unusual team chemistry.

PopeLando

January 25th, 2024 at 8:12 PM ^

The landscape has changed. You basically restart recruitment every single offseason, literally every college football player is a potential recruit again.

Not being able to land a guy out of high school is no longer a big deal. Just ping him again after his freshman year. And his sophomore year. And his junior year.

Keeping track of EVERYONE you’ve ever been high on, or everyone who looks like they’re gonna to pop, is a big task. Especially if you know you’re probably sitting out on the bidding wars for the obvious mercenaries.

JonnyHintz

January 25th, 2024 at 8:23 PM ^

That’s still not an area we’ve remotely struggled in. Michigan has done extremely well in complimenting the roster with portal additions. 
 

I’m not saying we shouldn’t tweak our recruiting department, but adding more recruiting analysts isn’t going to change the game for us. Keeping up on who the top portal guys are isn’t a hard task that requires some massive staff. 
 

The fan perception of “good recruiting” is based on recruiting rankings. If the goal is to get higher ranked players out of high school, adding recruiting analysts doesn’t accomplish that. It may improve upon Michigan finding undervalued guys like Kenneth Grant, but that isn’t gonna stop the fans bitching and moaning about a 3* DT. But again, that’s something we’re already good at 

JonnyHintz

January 26th, 2024 at 10:42 PM ^

The question isn’t about finding good players. The question was improving recruiting, which in the case of fans, is based on recruiting rankings. Finding more players isn’t improving rankings. 
 

We just won a national championship and the complaint is that we aren’t taking higher ranked commits as a result. More analysts on staff isn’t how that changes. As I said, it improves your ability to find undervalued recruits such as Kenneth Grant. But recruiting rankings aren’t gonna go up. If recruiting rankings don’t go up, people will still complain about the lack of an uptick in recruiting… like we’re doing right now following a freakin’ National Championship 

Speed_in_Space

January 25th, 2024 at 6:48 PM ^

Will he sit in silence across from a WR prospect for two minutes while he's on a recruiting visit? I mean, don't get me wrong I love Jim Harbaugh's intensity and what he did for the program but he could be weird at times. This is the dude that told a recruit he was weird but it grows on you. We loved his quirks because he's a beloved alum but we'd absolutely skewer the heck out of him if he was a Buckeye. His quirkiness is a turn off for many recruits.

Moore, from all reports, is the warmer, more personable of the two. Might help on the recruiting trail. He seems to "get" players more. We'll see.

Double-D

January 25th, 2024 at 6:49 PM ^

I have said this before but I think it’s great insight into our new head coach.

My Buddy’s son played for Sherrone at CMU and then was on the squad at Iowa for two years. He is a high academic achiever and knows the game of football. He is a smart kid.

Sherrone was his favorite coach he has played for. He says Sherrone is one of the brightest football coaches he has been around and has a demeanor that kids respect.

Let’s hope that translates to being a great CEO.  I have no doubt that he is going to be a great recruiter. 

Megumin

January 25th, 2024 at 7:01 PM ^

Your initial point is the biggest difference IMO. I think the clearest recruiting benefit is that the yearly Harbaugh uncertainty is no longer free ammo for opposing coaches to poke at. It was incredible what Harbaugh and his staff were able to achieve via scouting and developmental wins, but the NFL rumors were clearly self sabotage in terms of getting recruits in. No other program in the country had to deal with that because no other program has a coach with genuine NFL success. Saban, Day and Dabo certainly never dealt with it.

We know Sherrone is a zealous recruiter and well regarded by basically everyone. With the NFL cloud lifted things should be smoother. NIL will still be a weak point most likely, but Michigan does well in the other categories on paper.

rice4114

January 25th, 2024 at 7:05 PM ^

One thing I wonder about this is why no current players headed for the doors during these rumors? Why are no players scrambling now that he is gone? I dont know I got a feeling our recruting department was just kind of mediocre if you asked me. If Harbaugh potentially leaving was so dramatic why is him actually leaving not a big deal?

Megumin

January 25th, 2024 at 7:16 PM ^

Maybe this is just confirmation bias, but I would assume the current class was made very aware of the circumstances of Harbaugh's potential departure and since Moore is a continuation of the regime they signed on for, so long as he is in, the majority of them are comfortable.

These previous two classes have been underwhelming for a 3 time playoff team for sure, but the fact people aren't racing for the exits immediately (and maybe there is some attrition coming) I think is more of a endorsement of the current staff and the types of players they grab than a negative. Time will tell if recruiting actually improves but at the very least, NFL negative recruiting is off the board.

mackbru

January 25th, 2024 at 8:39 PM ^

Our recruiting was GREAT at finding underrated players, solid 4-stars, and the occasional 5-star. But there was definitely room for improvement. That we won 1 title does not mean the system was unimpeachable. There's no reason Michigan shouldn't recruit a top 5-10 class every single year. Imagine how good we'd be if we developed the highest-rated players.

rice4114

January 25th, 2024 at 7:02 PM ^

This is going to sound very troll-ish so please forgive me.

What high profile recruits has he brought in from being an OC? We are doing fine but what has stopped him from bringing in high profile recruits before and what makes his track one of a great recruiter?

Killer Khakis

January 25th, 2024 at 7:14 PM ^

I mean since he was co-OC, it’s been Sprague, Frazier, Morris, Morgan, Gentry. And it’s more of “this is my team, I know what I am seeking and can offer you this/that”. Idk who came here because Moore was OC, but to be fair I doubt more than 20% of commits choose the team strictly off a coordinator. The linemen he’s brought in have looked good since he became co-OC, not including transfers like Olu, Hinton, Nugent, Henderson