maizenblueband

October 20th, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^

Agree 100%. He basically rips it saying that he understands the intent is for safety but that it was an embarrassing call, particularly after reviewing it. Says they need to get rid of it.

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RedGreene

October 20th, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^

Back in my day you could target, kick a guy in the nuts, spit in his face, jump on his back, break his leg & never be called for any of it.

The good ol days...

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bacon

October 20th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^

The slide makes the first hit look like targeting, but without the last min slide Morgan is aiming for the chest or the ball. Given the angle of his head when the slide occurs, he probably didn't know he's sliding. Bolden is thrown into the qb by his blocker. It's rediculous.

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mGrowOld

October 20th, 2015 at 10:24 AM ^

Wish I had more than one upvote for you and I sure hope Michigan sends that into the B1G offices exactly like that.

Of course my guess would be the B1G would just look at the pictures and laugh.  The refs responsible for the calls for both plays prolly got a bonus check for their excellent work.

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True Blue Grit

October 20th, 2015 at 11:37 AM ^

The referees do such a horrible job in calling it/not calling it.  There's so much inconsistency in how the rule is enforced, it's as if the refs don't understand it completely and/or haven't been properly trained on what is or isn't targeting.   And of course, this then makes it much harder for the players and coaches to know what they can do or not do. 

I think there should be an ability of the refs to use discretion in tossing someone out of the game for a really blatant helmet to head hit.  But, it should be used sparingly and only in obvious cases.  Abolishing the rule makes sense to me, at least until the NCAA can get consistent and intelligent enforcement of if from the referees and replay officials. 

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JTrain

October 20th, 2015 at 10:19 AM ^

Effing terrible TERRIBLE call. And the fact that they review it. It goes to replay. REPLAY. I can only imagine the conversation in the booth as they watch the O-linemen throw our LB down on top of their qb. Wtf.
Whatever. Moving on now. Just DUMB.



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Avon Barksdale

October 20th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

The Big Ten added Rutgers to its conference. I am not going to get my hopes up that the Delany regime will handle their constant middle school level officiating any better.

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hennesbe

October 20th, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^

People say the Big Ten ought be embarrased.  Who is Big Ten that is going to be embarrased?  The refs are hired by a few adminstrative people that have no accountability to anyone buy Delany and he is a joke.   The Big Ten is the AD's and Presidents of the Big Ten schools.  And you think they care what happens to Michigan?

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Blue2000

October 20th, 2015 at 10:33 AM ^

If Bolden is in the game for the second half, does MSU complete that long pass to the fullback that set up its last TD?  I say no.  Therefore, as a result of the bullshit targeting call, I declare MSU's victory null and void.  

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jwschultz

October 20th, 2015 at 11:34 AM ^

Since the last play featured an obvious and non-controversial personal foul with the obvious result that MSU's fumble recovery and TD were called back, I'm just living my life as though Michigan did, in fact, win.  If I were Brian and Ace, I would refer to MSU's record with a loss and/or an asterisk from now on for the rest of the season, and if I were any voter or observer of CFB, I would regard this game as a Michigan win and an MSU loss.  It may prove to be confusing, but I also intend to maintain, for instance, that MSU hasn't won at the Big House since 2010 — hopefully to the consternation of my Spartan friends and acquaintances.

Obviously this is an unusual step, but since there is absolutely no extrapolation or prediction necessary and the call was so cut-and-dried, this is my plan. 

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metro1

October 20th, 2015 at 10:40 AM ^

DOes anyone remember what down it would have been.im not sure but someone above said it wouldn t have had any affect on outcome of game..15 yard penalty a first down .number one leading tackler out of game and two play later a touchdown.what down would it have been without penalty..i do not remember

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UMfan21

October 20th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^

what I wish would happen: during reviews the conversations are recorded and broadcast on TV so we can hear the explanations and interpretations. right now, there is no accountability for the buffoon "behind the curtain" in the replay booth.

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DavidP814

October 20th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^

While this would never happen, it's a great idea.

My inconsequential conspiracy theory, given:

A) The obvious nature of the replay with respect to Bolden being pushed into Cook by Conklin, and

B) Harbaugh's assertion at the press conference that the only explanation he received from the referee was that "the review people saw it the same way":

The officials on the field never communicated to the replay officials that the original targeting call was on Bolden, not Morgan.  I think the replay officials believed the targeting call was on Morgan and upheld the call believing Morgan's hit was the play under review.  And then, when the officials on the field threw out Bolden, the replay officials were shocked but didn't attempt to correct the call out of embarassment and self-preservation.

I know that sounds wacky, but it's the most reasonable explanation for upholding the targeting call.  The replay officials upheld a targeting call on Morgan when the on-field officials originally called targeting on Bolden.

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InterM

October 20th, 2015 at 1:54 PM ^

This same crew also (i) called a penalty on a player (No. 86) who doesn't exist on Michigan's defense, (ii) announced a personal foul call on the wrong team, and then left the ref's microphone on while admitting to Harbaugh that they had screwed up and the penalty was actually on MSU, (iii) triggered video reviews on three consecutive plays, and (iv) in their best recreation of a Monty Python skit, miscounted (on at least two occasions) the number of timeouts left when each of the two teams used timeouts late in the game.  (And this doesn't even include the several other botched calls.)  So your explanation seems fairly consistent with the body of work we saw on Saturday.

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Michigasling

October 20th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^

from his CFB rewind:

What Was He Thinking, Part II?

We now know players can be ejected for targeting by getting blocked into a fallen quarterback. Look, I am all for the targeting call to keep the game safer. It's a good rule in theory. But how Big Ten replay official Tom Kissinger didn't overturn a targeting call on Michigan's Joe Bolden is beyond me. Michigan State offensive lineman Jack Conklin finished his block, as he's taught to do, and pushed Bolden into Spartans quarterback Connor Cook, who was on the ground. If you're Bolden, how do you stop that from happening? The mistaken call meant Bolden, the Wolverines' leading tackler, was out for the game. College football needs to figure out how to consistently handle replay decisions with targeting.

[Posted this elsewhere after looking for an objective assessment.  Solomon's pre-CBS gigs were as a Clemson beat-writer.]

 

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JamieH

October 20th, 2015 at 1:45 PM ^

of the Big Ten not giving two shits about who they put in the replay booth.

Why would you put a life-long high-school basketball ref in the replay booth?  Nothing against basketball refs, but the replay booth should contain your most experienced, most excellent football official, not some over-the-hill high school basketball ref looking for some great seats to the game. 

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