Michigan to integrate RPO concepts

Submitted by DJMich23 on March 20th, 2018 at 9:19 PM

According to Sam Webb's Spring Preview, Jim Harbaugh was quoted as saying the following about the RPO in regards to Michigan “We're with it and I look to have some of that in our offense”. Link is ($) but I thought it might be note worthy. Nick Baumgardner mentions on Twitter that Michigan used RPO concepts last year continuing with “we shall see if they can develop it”. https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Jim-Harbaugh-says-run-pa… https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/976254632618991616?s=19

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mgobleu

March 20th, 2018 at 9:37 PM ^

Does RPO have the "touchdown" play? I want the "touchdown" play. I think more touchdowns are better for the offense and stuff.

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lbpeley

March 20th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^

intrigued me. I would like to know more.

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befuggled

March 20th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^

I mean, some of those have to be touchdowns, right?

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mgoblue98

March 22nd, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^

had some of those long gain thingies last year that did not end with TD's.

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Bill22

March 20th, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^

How about the ‘complete a pass to an open receiver’ play? That would be killer.

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WeimyWoodson

March 21st, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^

I think the D.E.N.N.I.S. system would really help this team out.

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mlGOBLUE

March 20th, 2018 at 10:44 PM ^

I’ve been using RPOs myself, and I can tell you, they really work! I sometimes have a day without RPOs, and I can always tell the difference.

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Lou MacAdoo

March 20th, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^

I'm still waiting for Bo Jackson sweep right or left. It doesn't matter which way really, either is a guaranteed TD. We just need Bo Jackson to make it work. 1. Bo Jackson 2. Sweep 3. Profit

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Cake Or Death

March 21st, 2018 at 12:27 AM ^

if the "jam it in" play doesn't work.

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B1GGY smalls

March 21st, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^

I had to log in for your comment. LoLzz....I want the touchdown play to be included as well.

Start an online petition and I'll sign it.

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Eng1980

March 21st, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^

Nice touch, strong finish :-)

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LS And Play

March 20th, 2018 at 9:42 PM ^

If you can't block inside zone correctly, none of this even matters.

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DrMantisToboggan

March 20th, 2018 at 10:02 PM ^

Wut

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mgoblue98

March 22nd, 2018 at 1:10 AM ^

blocking schemes are effective on the touchdown play. Gap, zone, pass pro, etc.

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Motel Putingrad

March 20th, 2018 at 9:46 PM ^

except they're calling it play-action

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B-Nut-GoBlue

March 20th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^

Beilein has developed and pretty solid SPO system. Sometimes it's even a DSPO.

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rd2w10

March 20th, 2018 at 9:49 PM ^

I would like to see them tone down the motion and play faster.

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goblue16

March 20th, 2018 at 9:59 PM ^

I’m sick of this crap and I don’t care. Just win on the field and i will love this coaching staff again. All this is useless fluff

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JTGoBlue

March 20th, 2018 at 10:07 PM ^

On a sports board about the offensive strategy of our team. For that matter, I won’t think about my 401k strategy, where my kids may go to college, vacation destinations and the like.

Must suck to be you.

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goblue16

March 20th, 2018 at 11:06 PM ^

I wasn’t talking about the posters I’m just talking about me personally. You can do whatever you want

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JFW

March 21st, 2018 at 9:02 AM ^

but I love them anyway. From what I've read Harbaugh adheres to the rules, tries to honestly expand his players horizons, and has done alot on the football field to help us raise the bar and set us up for the future. One injury plagued winning season doesn't make me value him less.

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goblue16

March 20th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^

Thank you basketball for keeping us entertained and not having to worry about the mess that is our football team. Let’s think happy thoughts. Thursday we huntn aggies!

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jared32696

March 20th, 2018 at 10:26 PM ^

Dude you are like months behind on the rpo news. Total failure.

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lilpenny1316

March 20th, 2018 at 10:45 PM ^

I don't think anybody was worried last year if Speight or Peters took off with the ball. O'Korn may have been our most mobile QB and we couldn't run him much due to the lack of QB depth.

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DrMantisToboggan

March 20th, 2018 at 10:51 PM ^

No. You're optioning the linebacker or safety between playing the run and maintaing his zone for the slant/in/seam/etc. Defender crashes the run, you pull and throw the slant behind him. Has nothing to do with the QB's running ability.

Now, you could add a QB run option to an RPO (really adding an RPO to the end of a read option or another type of option). We ran some of these under RichRod. However, the basic RPO concepts do not involve the QB running.

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lilpenny1316

March 20th, 2018 at 11:37 PM ^

Sorry if I'm putting my web dev hat on, but that's what it sounds like.

I guess I was hoping for the QB run option to be added to slow the defense and make them think for an extra split second.

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funkywolve

March 21st, 2018 at 12:04 AM ^

depending on what the QB sees when they line up for the play.

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Brandon_L

March 21st, 2018 at 1:59 AM ^

Both ore and post snap. QB makes the rad based on specific defenders such as the linebacker and his initial read goes during the handoff action similar to zone reading the end. If the the defender reads run and commits towards the run QB pulls the ball and throws to on of the receivers in the intended route combination generally a void left open by the defender who committed to the run.

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funkywolve

March 21st, 2018 at 12:37 PM ^

Forgive me for maybe a stupid question, but then are these RPO's primarily out of the shotgun? It'd be pretty tough to ask the QB to be under center and move backwards for the handoff while at the same time keeping his head looking downfield at a defender, no?

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DrMantisToboggan

March 21st, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^

Or pistol, but yes. You can still run gap schemes from any snap depth, however. Going into the shotgun doesn't mean you can't run power or traps, you can still run both gap and zone schemes with RPOs from the shotgun.

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Mongo

March 21st, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^

but typically running gap and trap schemes from the gun employs the pistol set (play needs time for the pulling guard and FB to clear the gap). McElwain ran pistol at CSU as did Harbaugh with the 49ers. I could see us go more out of the gun from a pistol set mixed with RPO if Shea is cleared as the starter.

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DrMantisToboggan

March 21st, 2018 at 12:05 PM ^

As lundberg said, it's mostly post-snap. The only read pre-snap for the QB (generally) is which LB he is optioning based on the formation. Then post-snap he reads whether the LB pursues run or maintains his pre-snap zone. If the LB crashes, you throw behind him. If the LB doesn't move or drops back, you hand off.

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Mongo

March 21st, 2018 at 3:16 PM ^

If defenders cover both the RB and slant/seam pass then the QB tucks it around the right end. The WR blocks way downfield on the CB and typically the QB scampers for 10-15 yards. If either of the defenders moves to cover the QB run-threat, then those are the hand-off or pass options. Without a legit run-threat QB, the RPO sets don't work well. If you go back and watch the Super-Bowl, the Eagles ran RPO effectively because of the QB keeper-reads worked for big gainers.

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uminks

March 20th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^

Shea and Dillon can run.

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drz1111

March 20th, 2018 at 10:45 PM ^

Hey, great, we’re only 10 years behind the rest of the [freaking] nation. Maybe Jimmy will take a second look at that newfangled triple option for 2019?

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StraightDave

March 21st, 2018 at 9:51 AM ^

So true. Just about every high school in the country runs this style of offense but for UM it will be too complicated.

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Jwheatie7

March 20th, 2018 at 11:10 PM ^

What a difference one year makes for the opinion on Harbaugh (not trying to defend him) but the hate comes quick

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yossarians tree

March 21st, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^

Was with some State fans recently and they were saying "he's gonna wear out his welcome soon, he's just such an asshole". I was very happy to tell them "No, we want better results than last year but overall everybody loves the guy as the head man of the program and as a representative of the university." Just another Sparty bubble bursting. Lots of those of late.

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Bluetotheday

March 20th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^

Not worry about the football team.

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You Only Live Twice

March 20th, 2018 at 11:34 PM ^

just fine.

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getsome

March 21st, 2018 at 12:42 AM ^

im sure they will try to retool and expand their RPO game - and thats great (as long as they have an identity, im all for whatever).

more importantly though harbaugh has mentioned the need to get the ball to DPJ, evans, etc in favorable positions and take advantage of his athletes

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Maize N' Ute

March 21st, 2018 at 1:28 AM ^

Fans had been screaming that all year. Harbaugh just now notices the need to get the ball to your playmakers?

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JFW

March 21st, 2018 at 8:58 AM ^

It's shocking. It's like he has more information than us and has to make decisions based on all the data rather than game day snippets.

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yossarians tree

March 21st, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^

It's amazing he made three NFC title games and one Super Bowl without knowing to get the ball to his playmakers! NOW everything will be so much better!

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