Maize N' Ute

January 30th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^

I would rather the program go out and play against teams that bring excitement to the fanbase and show a willingness to play against good competition then watch UConn.  The Harbaugh supporters have voiced their opinions that we will never beat OSU nor compete for NC's, so what does 11-1 get us compared to 9-3 while playing a home and home vs PAC-12 teams?  In the end, both scenarios provide us with beat downs to OSU and no NC.  At least make it entertaining.

But if you'd rather be the Kansas St of the 2000s with Bill Snyder, fine.  I just don't see much joy in it.

KC Wolve

January 30th, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^

I think we are in the minority but I agree. I hate the cupcakes. I’m ok with one to start the year, but I don’t want to watch UM beat the shit out of a nobody. There are only so many football saturdays and these games are barely worth watching. I’d much rather watch a good game as opposed to the pipe dream that UM would make the playoff if only they didn’t schedule that damn UCLA game. 

puma

January 30th, 2020 at 1:25 PM ^

Absolutely backwards from what Michigan needs to be doing. They should be stacking the non conference and trying that way if they lose to Ohio State they can still make the playoff with 1 loss. 

Tuebor

January 30th, 2020 at 1:48 PM ^

I disagree. We should be trying to maximize our wins.  Big Ten Schedule is tough enough.  If we are 11-1 with our only loss to OSU we will be a bubble team.  

 

For example in 2018, if we played UCONN instead of @ND we might have had an outside chance at sneaking in to the #4 spot if the conference championship games go our way.

Wolverine Devotee

January 30th, 2020 at 1:55 PM ^

We should’ve opened the 2018 season at a horrible Chad Morris Arkansas team which would’ve been a blowout road win over an SEC team. 
 

Instead, the two goofs made the forward thinking decision to get ND back on the schedule for a grand total of 2 years before going nearly 2 decades without playing them again. 

The Homie J

January 30th, 2020 at 2:59 PM ^

Not to mention rushing the game back on the schedule by giving them the home game first when the series last ended in South Bend. I would rather have waited to play them with us getting home field advantage first than the way it played out.  All for 2 years and a 1-1 record.  If we blowout a horrible Arkansas team in 2018, our season has 11 wins, an outside shot at the CFP despite the Ohio blowout, and Harbaugh looks slightly better going into a pivitol 2019.

KC Wolve

January 30th, 2020 at 3:35 PM ^

Then they aren’t a good team? This makes no sense to me. If they can’t win a road game, they have no business in the playoff or chance at beating OSU. It’s not like hiding for 10 weeks will suddenly make the game better. I’d rather watch good football games. Again, I’m not saying schedule 3 top SEC teams, but that schedule is atrocious. 

A Lot of Milk

January 30th, 2020 at 3:09 PM ^

Lol no. It's the exact opposite. The only thing that matters is number of losses, not "quality"

We have six years of CFP selection data to back that up. The only teams who should schedule competent opponents are mid majors and low level power conference teams like the ACC or Pac 12. Michigan never has to play anyone competent voluntarily as long as OSU, Penn State, etc. are on the schedule. Hell, even the SEC only plays 8 conference games so that everyone gets an additional free win in the non conference against Samford and Georgia State. Is it fun? Nope, but that's the college football landscape that's been created

NittanyFan

January 30th, 2020 at 1:39 PM ^

Warde helping out his old school. 

And UConn will need A LOT of help filling out a schedule over the years, I'm not sure they'll be able to make it as an independent.

Honestly, U-M and Warde likely got a bit of a $$$ discount on this one, in terms of the payout.  That's probably a factor here.

stephenrjking

January 30th, 2020 at 1:54 PM ^

I just can’t believe they think people will just continue to buy season tickets with these slates of games if the team continues to be non-elite. Literally every other program has attendance issues and we have a bigger stadium than they do; unless Michigan starts beating OSU (with players that are already on campus, this isn’t far away) people are going to start looking at those prices and say “no way.”

Wolverine Devotee

January 30th, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^

Already should be saying no way. It’s a freaking joke.

For the 3 big home games in 2019 the LOWEST face value ticket price was $125. 
 

So that’s $750 in just tickets alone for two peoples at face. Then factor in the StubHub prices that are naturally gonna be jacked up even more. This all before you pay $40 for parking and then food for tailgating and whatnot. 

That’s why we only attended the first 3 home games in 2019 and shut it down after Rutgers. We wouldn’t have been able to move recently had we kept going. 

I’m not a football STH but please answer me this: do you get any benefits?

For example, Michigan MBB WBB and Hockey STHs all get STH cards that are good for concession discounts as well as free gifts twice a year sent to us. 

stephenrjking

January 30th, 2020 at 2:28 PM ^

Valid question, I was typing fast. “Isn’t far away” means this discussed 2022 season, which means that there are only a couple of chances to change the narrative. I mean, they’re running out of time.

Re: WD - you’re right, and I wouldn’t be shocked if the 100k streak broke this year, or at least if the athletic department had to resort to some creative accounting to maintain it again.

BahamaMama

January 30th, 2020 at 5:21 PM ^

Right there with you Mr. Jim about giving up our tickets. In fact, there are 5 families in our tailgate group that are doing the same this off-season. Enough is enough and we will support the team by happily partying at each other's homes this fall.

Daleppard

January 30th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

That 2022 Home Schedule is brutal. Only game I am interested in is the PSU game and that is my Birthday so I hope that doesn't ruin my day. Those future opponents is a joke since Washington appears to be the only one that will stand the test of time. I would love to see some of these bigger opponents at the Big House. Makes making the long drive every Saturday seem worth it. 

 

Go Blue!!

Wolverine Devotee

January 30th, 2020 at 2:57 PM ^

That’s who is getting screwed on this one big time. The 2022 home games will be very affordable on stubhub since PSU looks like the only remotely big game as of right now at least. 
 

But face value is face value. 

lostwages

January 30th, 2020 at 3:32 PM ^

^^^^

For once I agree with Don, and this is pretty much what I did during the OSU game after I realized what the results would be.

UNCWolverine

January 30th, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^

First year since 1964 that we haven't had either a P5 or ND on our OOC home football schedule. 

This is an absolute failure by the AD. Any one of us could make 3 phone calls and convince 3 non-P5 teams to come get their asses kicked at the big house for big money and a big tv audience.

I feel badly for the students that have been robbed of fun experiences in their time in AA.

This is why I have started going to big/fun non-Michigan games recently, sigh.....

Don

January 30th, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^

"First year since 1964 that we haven't had either a P5 or ND on our OOC home football schedule."

That's a remarkable—and sad—scheduling stat.

Hard for me to believe that it was impossible to get a Kansas or Vanderbilt or Texas Tech or Wake Forest or Duke or Arizona on the 2022 schedule a couple of years ago, but if you wait the spots dry up.

On the bright side, at least they didn't schedule a service academy.

GoodLuckVarsity

January 30th, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^

I’m a season ticket holder and I love this. Everything about game day is 1000x better when Michigan wins. I don’t care if the school we beat is St. Olaf School of the Blind. I want to go to the game, have fun with my dad and brothers, and get a stromboli from Stadium Liquor on the way back to the car. I want wins and a nice shiny record for as deep into the year as possible and I don’t care who the wins come against so long as the win column keeps growing and the loss column stays at 1 or 0 heading into Ohio State. 

The Homie J

January 30th, 2020 at 3:03 PM ^

Yup, appearances and momentum are absolutely vital in CFB recruiting, and it's a lot easier to sell an 11-1 Michigan team that's literally 1 opponent away from a conference championship or CFP appearance vs a 9-3 Michigan team that can't even make it through the OOC slate undefeated.  The B1G is tough as it is, no reason to handicap ourselves before we even start our brutal in conference play.

A Lot of Milk

January 30th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

Who cares about being playoff caliber? Literally half the teams who ever made the playoffs weren't playoff caliber. MSU, Washington, OSU in 16, Oklahoma in 2 of their 4 appearances, Clemson in 17, Florida State. All got their asses handed to them and weren't even in the same league as the team they played. I couldn't care less if the appearance was a fluke or not, would anyone care if we beat OSU on a fumbled snap as the time expired? No, we just need results. 

The Homie J

January 30th, 2020 at 4:05 PM ^

Yup, at the end of the day, Sparty has a CFP appearance and a B1G title in the last 5 years.  Does it matter if their season was flukey and they needed several miracles and they got blown out by Bama?  Fuck no, 1 B1G title is more than 0 even if that title was undeserved or lucky or whatever you want to call it.

Who gives a fuck if we play a fun schedule if it results in a 9-3 record every year?  Hasn't hurt Bama to play 4 nobodies every year

RickyPowers

January 30th, 2020 at 5:10 PM ^

OOC games aren't our problem.  Last I checked, we went undefeated OOC last year and lost three conference games.  Even if you're referring to 2018, that ND loss is not the reason we missed the playoffs, getting smoked 62-39 was.

Also, Sparty's playoff appearance in 2015 was boosted by beating #7 Oregon OOC.  

4th phase

January 30th, 2020 at 3:00 PM ^

I’m good with this schedule. I like every once in awhile playing random teams throughout the country we don’t see that often. Even though Harbaugh has already played Hawaii and Hoke played UConn. 

Qmatic

January 30th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^

Are we certain UConn will have an FBS team in 2022? I’m not sure they will stay afloat as an independent playing in a 30k seat stadium. 

I guess scheduling road games vs Michigan is good for their financial situation.

St Joe Blues

January 30th, 2020 at 3:27 PM ^

Let me sum up the board reactions:

"Warde sucks! Who wants to play cupcakes? Who's gonna buy tickets for that crap?"

"It's about time Warde gets it. There's no reason to play a tough OOC schedule. It can only hurt you."

Less Filling!

Tastes Great!

lilpenny1316

January 30th, 2020 at 3:30 PM ^

Why are people complaining about the difficulty of the non-conference schedule?  We've lost two non-conference games under Harbaugh, both on the road with QBs new to the program. 

With the exception of 2018, we've lost multiple conference games.  That's my concern because it means we're losing at least one conference game a year to a team that's not as talented as us.  Feasting on Group of Five schools don't matter if you can't win your division.