Michigan 'potentially' avoids whiteout game at psu with announcement of msu v osu on nbc primetime

Submitted by M Gulo Gulo on May 15th, 2023 at 12:54 PM

Title says it all. Both games are Nov 11. Looks like Big Noon had dibs and took Michigan/psu so nbc took msu/osu. Nothing official from Michigan, psu or fox as of this posting.

MH20

May 15th, 2023 at 1:34 PM ^

It is just the night game that needs to be avoided.  That place is an absolute hellscape at night.

Yes! While even non-"White Out" games are still basically white outs (just without all of the marketing and overpriced T-shirts), missing any night game in Happy Valley is at the top of the list for each season we play there.

COLBlue

May 15th, 2023 at 1:22 PM ^

Other road games this year:

  • 9/30 Nebraska
  • 10/7 Minnesota
  • 10/21 Michigan State
  • 11/18 Maryland

Which one(s) do you think is (are) most likely to be at night?  Personally, I'm thinking NBC might like Nebraska and/or Michigan State.  Minnesota is possible too.  Maryland not as likely (but still possible).  Wonder if there is still a night game limit per team in the new TV contracts?

NittanyFan

May 15th, 2023 at 3:18 PM ^

Folks here aren't going to like this, but I'm 95% sure U-M @ MSU will be a night game.  I'd bet $$$ on it.

FOX gets the first 3 picks, as to what weeks they get first pick of games.

Based on today's news, it seems certain that FOX has chosen Weeks 8, 11 (U-M @ PSU week) and 13 (OSU @ U-M week).

Week 8 features both PSU @ OSU and U-M @ MSU.  As long as MSU doesn't get off to a 5-1 or better start, along with PSU and/or OSU getting off to a 3-3 start, I think the PSU @ OSU game will be FOX's pick.  And that would leave U-M @ MSU for 7:30 on NBC.

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As to the Minnesota and Nebraska games --- it's really anybody's guess what network has 1st pick in those weeks (Weeks 5 & 6).  So they're much harder to predict.

Note also that homecoming games typically have their kickoff time locked in May.  Maryland @ OSU is in Week 6 and that's OSU's homecoming.  So whatever happens in Week 6, they'll work around that game.

FB Dive

May 15th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^

Do you have a source on Fox getting the first three picks? Not doubting you, just curious because I haven't seen any specific details on the new media deal yet and I am curious if there is an article/source out there that explains the finer details of the new network/kickoff time selection process

NittanyFan

May 15th, 2023 at 5:08 PM ^

There's a "sports broadcasting" discord site I read --- the guy who runs this site (https://mattsarzsports.com/) has said that on the discord (post below from 1-May):

"I did receive a tidbit about the Big Ten and it's CFB games/slots draft: apparently FOX gets top 3 choices across the season. After that, somehow the others (NBC, CBS, BTN) are mixed in.  But I don't know how."

He IS a pretty connected guy and has been right on these things before, so folks there trust him.  Take it FWIW.

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If you recall, a few months ago, the 2024 Michigan/Texas game was moved to AA and FOX already indicated they'll be broadcasting it.  That would couch w/ the above, them having 1st picks for multiple weeks before NBC/CBS have any dibs (as surely they'll also have U-M @ OSU in 2024 too). 

FB Dive

May 17th, 2023 at 12:01 AM ^

Interesting, thanks for the info. Agree that Fox having the first three picks is consistent with these initial time slot announcements.

I said this when it was announced, but I still am baffled as to what Fox gained from the flipped locations for the Texas series. I get that they'll presumably have next year's game in Ann Arbor, but they would (should?) have had the Ann Arbor game regardless of whether it was in 2024 or 2027. And with Texas in the SEC by 2027, ESPN is will now have the rights to the Austin game -- which would have likely belonged to Fox if Texas had stayed in the Big 12 until 2025 and the games hadn't been flipped. 

The Deer Hunter

May 15th, 2023 at 1:25 PM ^

A decent chance Sparty will 3-6 entering that night game. This will put them out of their misery for 2023. I also have no interest in a night Whiteout PSU game this year. 

alum96

May 15th, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^

After starting 2-0 vs cupcakes no less.  Penix and Taulia back to back vs that horrid secondary.  Then GO to meet Cade in Iowa.  Got a chance v Rutgers.  UM will paste them although it's their Super Bowl so won't be the 50 point spread OSU does against them.  @Minnesota.  3-5 seems very likely.  It's gonna be so hilarious when they are giddy after beating the Richmond Spiders and start 2-0 and calling for a top 20 ranking. 

Swayze Howell Sheen

May 15th, 2023 at 1:27 PM ^

we will have some tough games this year, including PSU on the road. 

It's easy to forget, but even with the last two great years, we were on the razor's edge of notably different seasons. Take, for example, the PSU game two years ago. 

Amazinblu

May 15th, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^

A noon or 3:30 kickoff in Happy Valley is far preferable to a Whiteout affair.   It will be interesting to see what those Iowa Hawkeyes are able to accomplish during the Whiteout in September.

For those who are curious - sunset in State College on November 11th is 4:57 pm.   So, let's kick that game off at noon.

the Glove

May 15th, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^

Is the Big Ten finally protecting us like they have with Ohio State for the last two decades? Jim Delaney did everything he could to make sure that Ohio State had a favorable schedule. Every time Michigan brought up having to play MSU and OSU away on the same year he would tell them to pound sand. 

Wave83

May 15th, 2023 at 2:57 PM ^

I'm in California for a wedding on November 11, so I will be glad to be able to watch the PSU game in the morning and not risk missing a night game that conflicts with the ceremony.

Of course, I'm also glad to avoid a white-out in Happy Valley.

NittanyFan

May 15th, 2023 at 5:23 PM ^

MORE scheduling tidbits, not worthy of a separate thread:

  • FOX will have Colorado @ TCU Week 1 at Noon ET.  It will be a hot one in Fort Worth.
  • E.g., no B1G game on FOX at Noon - that slot is now out for ECU @ Michigan.

MacaroniParty

May 15th, 2023 at 5:24 PM ^

I hope it is a white out game. Their overmatched Dline that they recruited to play fast against Ohio's pass, isn't going to suddenly grow big and strong enough to match Michigan's power run, and the run game travels.

Ezekiels Creatures

May 15th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^

i don't get why this means the Michigan game won't be the White Out game. Iowa will be the White Out game instead?

Why is this affecting that decision?

Perkis-Size Me

May 15th, 2023 at 7:42 PM ^

The game will still almost certainly be a whiteout. What Michigan is likely avoiding is a night game.

Since this is in November, I have to believe Michigan will veto the shit out of PSU requesting a night game.

k.o.k.Law

May 15th, 2023 at 8:39 PM ^

MSU-Ohio at night is a strange decision as that is one of those games where the opening kickoff is likely to be the turning point.