Michigan's Value to B1G
I apologize if this doesn't look right (first time putting in a table).
I went through and looked at the viewership ratings from all B1G teams from the 2022 season to get a proxy on Michigan's value to the league.
Data is pulled from sportsmediawatch.com. In the bottom column is the viewership of the team without Michigan on their schedule, to be fair I pulled OSU off of ours.
Couple of interesting data points I noticed:
- Michigan - OSU game alone gets more or near equal viewership ratings as any other team's SEASON (Except PSU)
- If you removed Michigan from the schedule, 36% of viewership is lost (that does not account for putting a different team in their place, but OSU can only be on one field at a time)
- Except OSU, no two teams' seasons combined reaches the viewership total that Michigan does.
Some caveats apply: Michigan is usually on a larger network (Fox vs. BTN). Our worst rating non-conference game that year was against Hawaii on BTN at approximately 1 million viewers. Team success likely affects ratings (but is it the chicken or the egg?).
Also of note - Oregon vs. Wash last year only got 3.63 million viewers. USC generally got between 2 and 4 million viewers on their schedule. So while there are some big names coming, there is still a clear top two.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:11 PM ^
What’s a stronger word than agree??
November 13th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^
I'm no expert, but if one just starts dry-humping their leg it usually gets the point across.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:08 PM ^
Word!
November 13th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
I won't miss the felons in EL. Fuck them all with the rest of the B00
November 13th, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
If the assumptions about the level of OSU's "involvement" in the jeremiad being pursued against Michigan, then I don't think I'll miss playing them. Would be fine swapping a different marquee game in their place, though it might feel odd at first.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:46 PM ^
Michigan vs Everybody, get your gear, wear it proudly and boldly.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
New literal meaning for that should we go independent: we now get to play everybody. We aren't stuck with Purdue, Indiana, and Nebraska anymore.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:29 PM ^
prepare your anus Austin Peay!
November 13th, 2023 at 5:58 PM ^
Really good work here and it is clear that we have more viewers by far than anyone in the conference than OSU.
I think there is more to than just having more viewers though. I'm not sure how advertisers would measure it, but I would bet that our viewers are also more valuable to them from a commercial perspective than just about any other school in the conference as well. For example, the average starting salary of a University of Michigan graduate is $56,200 per a website called "College Simply". That same sites lists the average starting salaries for the rest of the Big 10 East schools as:
Michigan State: $42,700
Penn State: $41,900
Ohio State: $39,300
Rutgers: $46,300
Indiana: $41,900
Maryland: $47,800
I only looked at a few of the Big 10 West schools (the ones I thought may be high) and they are also lower than Michigan. Purdue's is $47,200 and Wisconsin is $47,100.
Net, I think the overall takeaway is that Michigan not only has more viewers than anyone in the conference other than OSU, but also has more valuable viewers than anyone in the conference period.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:05 PM ^
I think Michigan does well on many metrics, including distribution and income. But there's also sheer size and the fact that it has relatively large and elite medical, business, and law schools. No matter how much Stanford grads make, there will never be that many of them.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:10 PM ^
I also think Michigan keeps its alumni close and engaged, possibly more so than other Big Ten schools. We wear our block M's proudly.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
Most of those eyes are nonalums.
UM has 600,000 alumni. They draw 4-5,000,000 viewers regularly
The sport of major college football is driven by people who aren’t affiliated with their universities.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:51 PM ^
The 10 year salaries would likely show an even greater difference.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^
I am curious how all of this pencils out in the network decision-making process. The networks get their choices and the biggest games get the best slots (e.g, Big Noon). Where there are now good games that usually include one of UM, OSU, and PSU, next year will add Oregon, USC, and Washington. Plus whoever is good among Wisconsin, Iowa, UCLA, MSU, etc. That should easily fill the FOX and NBC slots, with the rest getting the other games.
In an imaginary world where Michigan does not exist in the Big Ten, there are lots of other potentially good matchups to fill those slots. Most will not be as good as UM, and some will be a substantial dropoff, but there is lots of inventory. Of course, UM would also lose its biggest games too.
I have no idea what the numbers might be, but I think the commenters who have suggested that a bigger conference reduces the impact of any single school are probably right. Even if you pretend UM would want out of one of the two best conferences in America, if you include the transaction (and travel) costs, it would likely be quite negative for many years.
I suspect that heads will cool after the next two games (or whatever the resolution is) and that UM will want to work from within to create better safeguards and perhaps try to insure that there's a new commissioner fairly soon. Just my $.02.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:05 PM ^
This is a reasonable, well-argued response, even though I believe Michigan should at least explore other options.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
There is no guarantee that the west schools continue being good. Hell look at USC’s record this season. I don’t think travel costs are as big of a deal anymore. West Virginia is in the big 12 and they make it work. I don’t get your point of “heads cooling off” How can Michigan ever trust the big ten and its members again ? Is Michigan supposed to just get over it? Fuck that.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
As any long-time Michigan fan can tell you, there's no guarantee Michigan will continue to be good. It has not always been CFP season after CFP season. Just look at what happened to basketball, to take one recent example.
All sports travel, so the academic and financial costs tend to add up and they are incurred every year, forever.
When contemplating a change, people tend to assume that everything they like will stay the same and everything they dislike will change for the better. This rarely occurs. And being the new one in the conference does not mean maximum influence, at least not in any conference you'd want to join. You go from one of the big boys to the new guy, unfamiliar with the politics and alliances of the new conference. Plus, less money and the loss of all traditional rivals.
I'm not saying it is an impossible case to make, but leaving something as successful as the Big Ten would require a very high burden of proof.
Perhaps "get over it" is less useful than "let it go." How mad will people really be if Harbaugh is coaching in the Big Ten Championship game in a few weeks?
November 13th, 2023 at 6:33 PM ^
You really think just winning a big 10 championship will make things all better? I think you are a little disconnected from the current pulse. I know Michigan could definitely have some down years. I have lived it as a season ticket holder for the last 15 years. And a fan for much longer. Part of the reason the big ten conference is so successful is because of Michigan. Take Michigan out of the conference and it’s basically the big 12.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:47 PM ^
I don't think there's much that suddenly makes everything "all better." But there's a lot that could happen to make it less bad, including success and time. And the sober evaluation of the other realistic options.
I confess that a wait and see attitude might not reflect the pulse of the MGoBlog message boards. But this board might only reflect a sliver of the overall Michigan community too. I do not know, but my experience is that knee-jerk reactions can be temporarily cathartic but longer-term disappointments.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:45 PM ^
Thankfully fans are not in charge of making those decisions. I think the people in charge will make the best decision given the stakes on hand.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
Like they have so far?
November 13th, 2023 at 9:50 PM ^
I was thinking about the Michigan leadership. So far, a lot of sabre rattling, feeding all fans.
There's hasn't been much of substance from either side.
Let's see how it plays out going forward.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:37 PM ^
When contemplating a change, people tend to assume that everything they like will stay the same and everything they dislike will change for the better.
----Amen!
November 13th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
People resisting change assume that certainty in a bad situation is better than uncertainty in a different situation.
Well ran organizations recognize that there are things that can be forgiven/smoothed and things that are unforgivable and cause for a divorce.
Big Ten crossed that line Friday.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:46 PM ^
I am not saying that I am against any change. I am agreeing with the thought that when things change, it just won't be the bad parts that will go away. Law of unintended consequences. Some things that are held dear by the Michigan faithful might change as well. I don't know what they are. But there will be changes in the currently "good" things.
Michigan should consider different scenarios before making the jump.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:03 PM ^
You can’t remain in a conference where they are backstabbing you. Just can’t.
Does leaving bring uncertainty? Sure, but I would rather deal with uncertainty than the certainty that fellow conference members will Tonya Harding UM at any opportunity.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:37 PM ^
Michigan is currently in a domestic abuse situation. Maybe if I don't talk-back so much next time the B10 won't hit me.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:47 PM ^
Bad take buddy. This is mostly entertainment.
November 14th, 2023 at 7:28 AM ^
Tell that to the players and coaches.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Washington did play MSU that season, it was billed as a prime-time game on ABC and received 2.79 million views. Michigan and UConn got just over 2 million with a noon kick-off, same carrier. Our overall value is definitely diminished by more teams in the league, but I think its still going to be around 20%.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
If the new CEO of a company proceeds to unnecessarily lose 20% of that company's revenue . . . the new CEO becomes the old CEO very quickly.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
I’m surprised that psu-osu is a a significantly bigger game than mich-psu.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:23 PM ^
PSU usually enters the former game undefeated; they rarely exit that way.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:27 PM ^
We played Penn State on the Alabama-Tennessee weekend. Different time slots, but that game was getting all the hype so I expect advertising played a role. We also shared a time-slot with Texas. I also think we picked up a lot of national interest at the end of the year, we got 5 million views against Illinois.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^
we got 5 million views against Illinois
That’s because it's a huge rivalry. At least according to my Illini sources...
November 13th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
Interesting. May be because Michigan won in a blowout, so viewers checked out early. PSU was beating OSU tat half and hung tough through 3 quarters and then all kinds of bad luck happened.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:46 PM ^
'all kinds of bad luck happened.'
Frames happened.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:54 PM ^
Big Game Frames suddenly appeared. He needs to stay home if Penn State is ever going to get the Big Ten Championship Game....*checks list of current and new members as of next season*.....ever again really.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
Michigan may not leave the BIG in the short term, but if*
ND joins a conference not named the BIG and the SEC makes a super league, I don't think the BIG will find an ally in Michigan.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Yeah, I've backed off my "blow the league up" stance (at least in the short term). Financially, it doesn't help us. But, if there's ever a chance to renegotiate the TV contract we should use our leverage. Or the way punishment is handled by the league, de-powering the commissioner, etc.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
The broadcast network and time of day are also a factor in these numbers.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:30 PM ^
They tend to give better teams better time slots on better channels...because they don't want to waste an NBC night game with Rutgers at Indiana.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Imagine being at a BoD meeting of a multi-billion-dollar company and the CEO proudly announces he’s going to set one-third of the company’s revenue on fire.
And everyone loudly cheers. In fact they suggested, nay, demanded it.
It’s time to leave.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:33 PM ^
What a perfect analogy. Just goes to show you how far hate travels
November 13th, 2023 at 7:47 PM ^
Is it a family-owned business? Because, holy shit do they make some bad decisions.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:43 PM ^
Remember that revenue is only on fire IF Michigan leaves.
Otherwise Petiti is seen as CryanTuff® and made ol' arrogant Michigan accept the punishment with it's tail between it's legs.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Would be interesting to find out the AD vote against UM on Friday. If you weight the scores by this table, what is the net-net? I think it's negative for us but the vote tally would be interesting and I am sure Warde knows.
Clearly, OSU voted against UM so cancels UM's weight, but what about the others? For example, if PJ Fleck voted to wait until the NCAA investigation was complete this could be cancelled out by MSU, etc., etc.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:26 PM ^
I'm sure the Indiana Illinois overtime thriller took millions of viewers away from us. /s
November 13th, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^
Michigan has alumni and fans everywhere. We’re a national draw, not just regional.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:43 PM ^
Ohio State gets slightly more viewers, but they're all in Ohio.