Matthew Stafford traded to Los Angeles Rams
January 30th, 2021 at 10:07 PM ^
I'm not a Goff fan but two 1st rounders & a 3rd rounder is better than I thought they would do
January 30th, 2021 at 10:09 PM ^
I like Goff. Kid has moxie. His contract is horrible, but he's still more talented than people give him credit for.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:28 PM ^
Stafford’s contract was huge, too.
Which raises another question: what’s the cap hit if you cut him? The Lions got three picks. Maybe they just want to eat the cap space and build through picks?
Wouldn’t be the worst idea in the world.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:35 PM ^
It was $33MM to stay in Detroit and $19MM after the trade.
January 30th, 2021 at 11:02 PM ^
Sorry, talking about Goff’s cap hit. Wondering if the Lions just plan to cut him since they plan to stink next year anyway.
January 30th, 2021 at 11:05 PM ^
I doubt it. Any potential QB they take will be raw(Lance/Fields) and will need a year on the bench. Goff will fill that. Apparently Goff’s deal gets friendlier in year 3.
January 31st, 2021 at 5:42 AM ^
If we pick a QB in the draft, Goff will allow him to sit on the sidelines a year or two and learn. Goff should be more than serviceable; if he's shown what it takes to be 'The Man' we'll have an option to sign him and trade the new guy. Odds are, we'll let Goff go and let the 'non-rookie' take it from there.
January 31st, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^
Goff also makes taking QB not as desperate. The Lions could build taking the best available approach which typically proves better results.
January 30th, 2021 at 11:13 PM ^
Sorry... my bad. If Goff is cut before 1 June the cap hit is $65MM.
Hence Vald's earlier comment about Goff's insane contract.
January 31st, 2021 at 3:12 AM ^
It's wrong. To cut him, his cap hit would be 27.5 million. If they keep him as a bridge QB and cut him after 2021 season, his cap hit will be 15.5 million. A lot of prorated signing bonuses has been accelerated to the Rams cap space. It's not a great contract but it becomes much easier to move on after 2021 season
January 31st, 2021 at 11:16 AM ^
He's got a decent cap hit until after 2022. Brad Holmes apparently loved him coming out of college so my guess is they're gonna give him a chance to figure it out and if it doesn't work the next two years (when the Lions aren't contending anyways) they just dump him after '22.
January 31st, 2021 at 5:34 AM ^
Maybe they aren't done dealing. The 49ers and Colts still need a QB. More picks baby.
January 31st, 2021 at 6:18 AM ^
Goff will lead the Lions to continued mediocrity, so I am all for this if it were in the works.
January 31st, 2021 at 9:11 AM ^
I smell what you’re stepping in!!
January 30th, 2021 at 11:59 PM ^
LOL...moxie is one thing he doesn’t have. He is a B+ QB. He will win you games, but can’t handle pressure from elite defenses. He throws a beautiful deep ball...but he is a head case and lacks confidence.. Detroit just got John Navarre...solid...not exciting...led feed.
January 31st, 2021 at 7:07 AM ^
Navarre was not a b+ Qb. Maybe c-.
January 31st, 2021 at 7:58 AM ^
How in the world do you have "throws a beautiful deep ball" and "John Navarre" in the same analysis?
January 31st, 2021 at 9:15 AM ^
John Navarre always had a beautiful deep ball, it was anything less than like 15 yards you never knew where it was going.
January 31st, 2021 at 2:40 PM ^
Navarre might have had a ceiling on his talent that meant he was not NFL caliber, but one thing he was not is a head case.
February 1st, 2021 at 6:38 PM ^
You mean every other telegraphed pass batted down?
January 31st, 2021 at 6:13 AM ^
The fact he doesn’t is why he was traded. Had an insider on local radio a few weeks ago. Said there was a game this year that the Rams needed to win. Late in the game and Rams needed a first down. 3rd and long and Goff scrambles and runs out of bounds, 1 yard short of the first down. McVay knew right then he needed a new quarterback to win it all, someone who would lay it all on the line. The guy said don’t be surprised if McVay comes after Stafford in the off-season. And here we are. He was spot on.
January 31st, 2021 at 11:36 AM ^
Stafford has been in Cabo with Andrew Whitworth, the Rams LT, since last Thursday...the writing was on the wall for Goff after some of his late season brain meltdowns.
January 31st, 2021 at 12:34 PM ^
Did Kelly know about this trip?
January 31st, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^
She was socially distancing.
January 31st, 2021 at 12:03 PM ^
Last year, Goff and Whitworth were looking to buy a place together in Cabo for their families. ?♂️
January 31st, 2021 at 10:35 AM ^
How long until the Lions drive him to retire early?
January 30th, 2021 at 10:11 PM ^
This allows Lions to either roll with Goff for a while and draft a QB either in a future draft or draft someone more developmental like Jamie Newman in the 3rd round this year.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:38 PM ^
That's my feel is that the plan may be to roll with Goff during a rebuild & draft a QB or two to develop over time
January 31st, 2021 at 7:49 AM ^
Develop a mid round QB? Why not just play the power ball.
January 31st, 2021 at 10:29 PM ^
Correct. You are wasting a pick if you use a mid or late round pick on a QB "to develop". I know, Tom Brady. There have been exceptions, but not many.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:07 PM ^
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1355712045006655490?s=19
Goff, two future firsts, and a third headed to Detroit. Holmes is absolutely putting his Rams roots to work.
January 30th, 2021 at 11:32 PM ^
The price for a decent not great qb in that league is amazing.
January 31st, 2021 at 8:36 AM ^
January 30th, 2021 at 10:07 PM ^
Holy shit! Do the Lions finally have an actual GM?
January 30th, 2021 at 10:08 PM ^
Fucking kings ransom. Who know Detroit had it in them?
January 30th, 2021 at 10:28 PM ^
Is it really though? My friends don’t share my opinion so I don’t expect others will but this whole deal and the value of it is contingent on Donald and Stafford snapping their ankles or getting some other bad injury otherwise you could be looking at two picks in the high 20’s - or worse - which would be highly disappointing. Not to mention Goff is owed buckets of money and they were all but ready to bench him.
I would’ve rather taken a top 10 pick this year and two thirds if offered.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:30 PM ^
Lions roster is dogshit. Especially with Golladay a FA. They need a lot of help and it has to be long term.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:38 PM ^
First round picks, even low ones, are really valuable. The high picks will be the ones the Lions earn with the losing we’re going to see for a year or two.
Stafford is an older QB who is very good but not the elite of the elite. He’s not even the best QB on the market, since the much younger Deshaun Watson is available. He’s got an expensive contract around his neck. And since everyone knows he’s done in Detroit, they could drive a harder bargain.
I think this is pretty good all things considered.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:39 PM ^
20 million is pretty affordable for a starting QB.
January 30th, 2021 at 10:47 PM ^
Disagree. Absolute best case scenario was two top 100 picks this year. They got 1, plus a top 30 pick in consecutive years.
And Goff isn't exactly chopped liver. So they'll at least be watchable until the fruits start arriving. Imagine having to suffer through Tyrod Taylor or Ryan Fitzpatrick.
This was an absolute STEAL by Detroit. I love Stafford and hope he wins big in LA, but there is no doubt this is a great night for Detroit.
January 31st, 2021 at 12:05 AM ^
I’m a Seahawks fan as well as a Lions fan, Geoff ALWAYS gives us fits. He’s gritty and is good enough to win big games. Is he top tier? I’d say no, but he’s still quite good.
this is an amazing deal for the Lions. Lol
January 31st, 2021 at 10:56 AM ^
Agreed comrade, I didn't want Stafford to go, mainly because I've watched the previous 20-30 QBs for Detroit play. But also because not only was the guy talented but he played balls out. How he wasn't hurt more often is kind of surprising.
But this is a good trade. We get a guy who is at least competent plus 2 number 1s.
We're going to be real bad next year.
January 31st, 2021 at 2:05 PM ^
"Suffering through Tyrod Taylor or Ryan Fitzpatrick"
Through me in the Gulag if you so desire Putin, but both of those guys are damn solid players. I will not abide any Taylor or Fitz-magic slander!
January 30th, 2021 at 11:02 PM ^
Highly disappointing? This isn’t the NBA, NFL firsts have a lot of value. Lions made out like bandits. They can future stars with those picks.
January 30th, 2021 at 11:17 PM ^
The NFC West is no picnic. Seattle is still the best team in that division. Arizona will be better in Murray's third season at QB. And SF still has that defense and running game.
No one would be surprised if LA strikes out the next three years and miss the playoffs.
January 31st, 2021 at 12:08 AM ^
I mean, in 2022 and 2023 the very much rebuilding Lions will have two picks in the first round. That's awesome. Most rebuilding GMs would give their left nut for that kind of draft capital.
Goff is owed buckets of money yes, but he's only a cap nightmare for the next two years - and he'll be a little less of a cap nightmare for us now that the Rams have eaten his signing bonus.
Talk about a win-win. The Rams get a big-time quarterback and get rid of a major headache. The Lions get draft capital up the wazoo for a long-term rebuild and a quarterback who at worst can be a reasonable stopgap and at best can be rebuilt like the six million dollar man.
January 31st, 2021 at 6:15 AM ^
I’d rather have two years with multiple first rounders than one year with two top 10. Hands down. Adding more young, high end pieces in multiple years is ideal and on a rebuilding roster no less.
In a rebuild you want to stagger your young talent through multiple years whenever possible. Getting four first round talents in two years is a great foundation for any team going through a rebuild.
January 31st, 2021 at 10:53 AM ^
I disagree. ANY first rounder is head and shoulders better than ANY 3rd rounder. 8th pick and 25th often dont have much in between them from a talent stand point
January 31st, 2021 at 2:22 PM ^
And yet Vegas has now moved the Rams up to the third most likely team to make the Super Bowl, and at the same time Vegas has dropped the Lions to the last team. ?
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rams-now-third-best-odds-101012331.html
January 30th, 2021 at 10:08 PM ^
Going to be low first round picks, since the Rams should be good, but it’s still two first round picks. And getting Goff is a plus, too; he’s not going to win a SB in Detroit, but he’ll keep the position warm if Detroit doesn’t have a good option to draft a QB, which allows them to draft other positions of need.
Really sad that Matt has to go. Happy for him in LA, a great situation. And this is a good deal, especially for an older guy that is only the second most desirable guy on the market.