MGOTokyo

December 22nd, 2015 at 8:19 AM ^

Maybe I'm too idealistic, but the bottom line is they are here to 'play skool".  The fact that some get to continue on to the NFL and make some cash for a while is great, but not the purpose of the University.  If the percentage of games played allowed is increased much more, eligibility could conceivably last indefinitely.  Our recruiting classes would number about 10.

Magnus

December 22nd, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^

I think it's a little disingenous to suggest that 5 games isn't enough for a player to show his NFL potential. Ojemudia had three seasons and then five games of his senior year to show what he could do. If we're being honest, Ojemudia was not an extremely productive college player. He was fine, but he was not a star by any means. If he's worthy of a shot in the NFL, he'll get one.

I also don't think schools should be obligated to provide a roster spot or pay for the scholarship of a player for an extra year just because he only got to play in, say, 80% of the games in his senior year. That basically means that a sprained ankle or a separated shoulder could earn him a whole extra year of eligibility.

Erik_in_Dayton

December 22nd, 2015 at 11:06 AM ^

They don't have to take fifth year players back now, as you know. Michigan may not have room for Spike Albrecht next year. I agree that Ojemudia didn't show himself to be an NFL player for most of his career, but he was much-improved his senior year. Finishing out that year on an upward trend - or finishing next year on an upward trend - was his best chance at the NFL. A player who finishes a full season is far better situated with respect to professional football than one who plays five games and then tears his Achilles. And this rule takes that from him because...why? As I said above, an 80% rule would be fair as long as it applies to everyone. And college football already has grad students and 25 year olds. This would hardly revolutionize the sport.

Bando Calrissian

December 22nd, 2015 at 1:21 PM ^

Why should the NCAA care about getting you in the best draft position?

It's perfectly reasonable to say if you play more than 30% of the season (and even that is a bit much, IMO) and then get hurt, you shouldn't get another season for your trouble. 

And to say it's "harmful" to players is really misusing the word harmful. 

Erik_in_Dayton

December 22nd, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^

...opportunities for no good reason. No one has defended the rule itself other than to say it's "reasonable" or simply that it's a rule. The restriction of a player's and school's freedom to run their career/program ought to have a good reason. Here, there is no competitive disadvantage with any change in the rule so long as every team has to adhere to the rule equally. What is the harm of Ojemudia returning to play at Michigan? It wouldn't be an issue if he'd sat out his first year, so presumably no one has a problem with fifth years generally. It wouldn't be an issue if he'd been hurt in the third game instead of the fifth. What's it to the NCAA that he played two more games? The absolute worst-case scenario if you change the rule is that guys keep getting hurt and returning. But why is that bad? There are already grad students playing and players who are, say, 25 years old. Chris Weinke was 28 when he won the Heisman. For Ojemudia, on the other hand, not being able to return is a big deal. His professional opportunities are diminished by not being able to show that he's recovered from an Achilles tear and still capable of being productive. It's fair to say something is harmful if it risks costing a guy hundreds of thousands of dollars. People are sued for such things. We don't have to be talking about murder for the term "harmful" to apply. People would find it bizarre if some outside entity told a business major he had to leave school before he was able to complete a potentially fruitful internship. What's the difference here? You ask why the NCAA should care about draft position. But why should the NCAA be intruding at all? And it should care because large amounts of money are at stake for student-athletes. We as a society are good with students trying to position themselves to make as much money as possible. Or maybe I don't understand the purpose of Ross.

FatGuyTouchdown

December 21st, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^

But I hate it when good kids lose appeals due to some NCAA shit. Especially kids like Mario, who probably wont have a long NFL Career. College Football is one of the greatest things on the planet, no matter the level, and it sucks when bureaucracy takes that away. 

Fortran77

December 22nd, 2015 at 2:40 AM ^

I wish they would grant another year but require a school transfer. That way we are benefitting the student athlete and not slimy coaches. I think there is fear of coaches playing games with the system. This would remove that and give the kid a chance. But it does not create more money for the NCAA. So it's a non starter

chatster

December 22nd, 2015 at 6:35 AM ^

An athlete who did not participate in any of the team’s games, matches or meets during at least one of the previous five seasons will be permitted to have a sixth year of NCAA eligibility if, due to injury or illness, the athlete could not participate in more than 30% of the team’s games, matches or meets during the previous season or more than 50% of the team’s combined games, matches or meets during the previous two seasons.
 
Say football Player A who did not play at all during his first year of eligibility competes in only seven of the team’s 13 games during a fourth year of eligibility, suffers a season-ending injury before the team’s eighth game and then competes in the team’s first five games during a fifth year of eligibility, before being injured again on the first play of that fifth game and missing the rest of that season.
 
If the team plays in only 12 or 13 games during Player A’s fifth year of eligibility, Player A will have played in more than 30% of the team’s games during a fifth year of eligibility, but fewer than 50% of the team’s combined games during Player A’s fourth and fifth years of eligibility. Player A then would be eligible to play a sixth season.