Marcus Stokes gets HBCU offer after having offers pulled for using N word
Marcus Stokes is a white 4 star QB out of Florida that was filmed using the N word. He claimed he was just singing to a rap song and meant no ill will towards anyone. However, big schools withdrew their offers. He had been committed to the Florida Gators and before that Penn State.
However, he will still play football in college and perhaps at an unlikely place. Albany State, a Division 2 historically black college has offered him a scholarship. He hasn't committed to them yet, as he has another Division 2 offer, but it sounds like he is seriously considering it.
That is nice of Albany State to give him a 2nd chance to make ammends. If he accepts, I doubt they get lots of 4 star recruits.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:19 PM ^
This is one of those posts that adds anecdotal evidence to the studies that show that FOX News watchers are some of the most ill-informed people in the U.S. Garbage in, garbage out. And I say this as someone who thinks liberals spend far too much time reacting to conservatives--ending up, sometimes, in a looking glass world too much like that of their perceived political antagonists--not enough time thinking for themselves.
I do draw a line at Baby, It's Cold Outside, though, at least the Ray Charles and Betty Carter version. :)
January 28th, 2023 at 11:31 AM ^
Studies like the "Fox News viewers are ill informed" *might* reach an accurate conclusion. Probably not though, at least not to any meaningful degree. These types of studies tend to be structured in a way that news is viewed through a lens to get the result the researcher wants. The 1/6 riots and the 2020 race riots are likely going to have different interpretations on their relative importance based on ideology.
Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods. Things like supply chain disruptions, Putin, and greedy businesses raising prices to gouge consumers contribute roughly 0% to long run average price level.
It is pretty easy to see if I were a researcher asking a question on inflation conservatives would tend to arrive at the correct answer more often than liberals. But it really wouldn't prove conservatives understand inflation better.
January 28th, 2023 at 10:51 AM ^
It sounds exhausting feeling so aggrieved all day every day. Sorry your life is so hard.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:30 PM ^
The kid had to have another red flag right… right? Singing along to a rap song now bans you from playing Division 1 football, but can play at an HBCU? Someone is messing with the simulation.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
I don't want to defend kids posting videos of themselves saying the n-word, but Stokes did have two other strikes:
- His play at high school looked like it was regressing after his commitment to Florida, and
- Florida had just gotten a commit from 4* QB Jaden Rashada (who has since bailed, allegedly because the Gators couldn't follow through on their NIL promises).
If Stokes had been playing better HS ball, and if they didn't have Rashada, would the Gators have settled for an apology and some diversity work? There's no way to say for sure.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:45 PM ^
That may explain his loss of high level scholarships like Florida, but no interest AT ALL from D1 schools?
Not even Rutger?
January 27th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
According to every account I’ve read, that’s all it was and he immediately apologized. That every D1 school now refuses to touch him vividly demonstrates the USA of today. So many in positions of authority lack even the slightest bit of courage or conviction. All that matters for people like these is avoiding social media backlash and trying to look like they’re one of the “good” people who subscribe to the approved opinions.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
I believe the concern was not in the singing itself but the choosing to film himself singing and then post it.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:45 PM ^
Maybe. But I think this has a lot to do with the fact that many White people are still just plain bad at navigating race in our society. The cancel culture that screwed this kid evolved from the very same puritan ideology that also birthed old school racism. Puritanism never made it into the Black ideological calculus, so we tend to be a bit more forgiving depending on the scenario. Consider all the jokes Black comedians have made that are low key in defence of Paula Deen.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:26 PM ^
Puritans didn’t create skin-based racism. That was the Spanish, Portuguese, and English colonizers/slavers.
It’s appropriate to note on Holocaust Memorial Day that race as a concept is far from skin color alone.
Americans in general have an awfully blinkered understanding of race and racism. Solipsism is a universal trait of Americans.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:45 PM ^
Puritan ideology - not Puritans. May seem like semantics, but it’s not.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
Race and racism developed out of colonialism and slavery whereas Puritanism emerged out of the religious strife of Reformation England. Puritans sought to purify England of Catholics.
Certainly Puritanism became a bedrock of white supremacy in the US, but blaming Puritanism for the creation of racism leaves out the people who actually first developed and applied the concept.
January 27th, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^
Race and racism developed out of inherent evolved human tribalism.
January 28th, 2023 at 10:13 AM ^
“Puritan” used as an adjective would be the same as “puritanical” which refers to strict -intransigent, even- moral standards. That’s how I took MichiganiaMan’s comment, and it makes sense for several reasons.
The privileged, typically white, perspective on race is transparently paternalistic and moralistic, and is not only inflexible but also reinforces essentialist stereotypes of what it means to be one race or another (which is a pseudoscientific concept to begin with). Through a moralistic lens, people are evaluated not on outcomes or actions but on beliefs and identity (I.e. the idea that it’s OK to say the N word if your beliefs or identity fit certain categories, regardless of how its use might actually impact people). What generally gets derided as “woke” is a blend of that shallow, moralistic paternalism & intransigence with corporate pandering to emerging markets & liability avoidance. It being described as Puritan fits the bill, not as specific to that original tradition but in how its beliefs and valuations are irrationally structured.
January 27th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
dude, i appreciate your obvious and substantial understanding of history, but racism didn't start in the colonizers.
racism has always existed. humans tend to dislike "different" and we are, and always have been, capable of enormous amounts of hate towards things that are different and/or misunderstood.
January 27th, 2023 at 8:08 PM ^
How dare you even try to suggest racism isn’t solely the province of white Americans.
January 28th, 2023 at 10:19 AM ^
Entirely incorrect. Belief in races as a biological concept emerged in colonial-era Europe, with the term starting in the sixteenth century and the biology-themed pseudoscientific tradition of it not forming until the 18th-19th centuries. You don’t see references in antiquity to “negroid, caucasoid, mongoloid” etc.
Your argument about suspicion or hate towards what is different is irrelevant. Race is an artificial category for distinction. People historically viewed differences based on religion, ethnicity, language, nationality, traditions, etc. None of that is race. Race and racism are colonial-era ideas.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^
It’s hard to navigate race in this country because the rules are always changing and are controlled by fanatical ideologues that won’t accept anything other than full compliance immediately.
January 27th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
It’s a trap
January 27th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
(1) Get him on campus
(2) Make him feel safe
(3) Destroy Him
(4) Profit
January 27th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
Down here in bayou country you better not sing along to Lil Boosie and Set it Off.NSFW
January 27th, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^
I know my 98 year old Grandma would get cancelled, because she uses the N word all the time.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^
so does mine .... nincompoop
January 27th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^
A white American named Marcus is pretty rare.
I have always found it curious why certain European names(Ex: Marcus, Cedric, Andre) are used far more by black Americans than white Americans.
January 27th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
I dont quite understand all the outrage to begin with, he didnt say the word with an "er" and it's a rap song...are white people not allowed to say that in song lyrics now?
January 27th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Political correctness is fascism pretending to be good manners
-George Carlin
January 27th, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
“Everything is fascism.”
—-People who are unaware that fascism is just one type of authoritarianism
January 27th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
Does he get a pass now? 😂
S*** this boy probably just crapped his jeans!
He's going to be the Rachel dolezal of pig skin...
January 27th, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^
It's a complicated issue - one of my law professors wrote a book about it. It's just better not to use it - even if you don't mean ill will, you are likely to cause it.
I give credit to Albany State for making the offer.
January 27th, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
Maybe we need warnings : the following song contains lyrics that Y can not sing along to, only X can sing along. Thank you for your purchase.
January 27th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^
Well, with the Rashada recruitment blowing up in their faces, maybe UF reconsiders here.
January 27th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Or maybe he’s not a major conference D1 caliber QB and the NY Post is creating controversy. We have seen QBs regress before and we have seen schools offer way too early only to later discover it’s not the player they thought.
January 28th, 2023 at 12:18 PM ^
Not anymore:) scholarship revoked