December 14th, 2022 at 3:23 AM ^
Proximity may also play a role. More power to him...except against UM.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:30 PM ^
I'm tired of these young kids chasing the new shiny object despite it not remotely being the logical choice
Sounds like a teenager. Hell, I am 50 years old and still do that shit.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:36 PM ^
I know it feels like decades ago now, but Rashan Gary and Jabrill Peppers chased the shiny object as well.
December 13th, 2022 at 11:23 PM ^
Jabrill grew up a Michigan fan though. Rashan followed his high school coach, multiple Jersey guys in the same class and Jabrill who he played with to Michigan. Also I think Jabrill was already at Michigan when Harbaugh was hired.
December 14th, 2022 at 6:23 AM ^
He was. He was part of the 2014 recruiting class and his freshman season (when he redshirted) was Hoke's last.
December 13th, 2022 at 11:57 PM ^
Also maybe don't try to put your values on other kids. You have no idea what might draw a recruit to school A or B. This "Michigan is the greatest and all other schools must be cheating or NIL harder" needs to die.
December 14th, 2022 at 5:30 AM ^
this. are there kids that chase the best $ deal? absolutely. coaches do, too. those kinds of decisions have happened for decades. literally.
still, kids commit for all sorts of reasons, some good, some bad…ascribing every decision to The Bag (TM) is reductive and un-useful.
December 14th, 2022 at 11:40 AM ^
What a weird pathetic and paternalistic take. How the fuck do you know what the logical choice is for these kids.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:25 PM ^
Good for him!
You have to admit, it would be fun to hang around Prime Time.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:48 PM ^
Not for anyone currently on the team
December 13th, 2022 at 9:53 PM ^
Until he doesn't need you because he found another shiny thing.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:25 PM ^
Usually a mirror.
December 14th, 2022 at 9:31 AM ^
Really? Seems like it would be exhausting and get old really quick. Especially as he speaks about himself in 3rd person as “prime time”.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:26 PM ^
Crootin'
December 13th, 2022 at 9:30 PM ^
nebraska and colorado are next door, and geography makes a big difference in recruiting. it certainly has in our household.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:29 PM ^
I doubt Deion will stay 4 years in CU. These guys will need to be “portalled.”
December 13th, 2022 at 8:37 PM ^
Maybe but I am not convinced he is a coach that will be good enough to elevate beyond where he is. He did a nice job of getting talent in a league that was not deep with it. Now he is competing on level playing field, for the most part. We will see if he is actually able to coach soon enough.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:44 PM ^
He's going to recruit well and with the PAC-12 gutted he won't face much competition. Oregon and Utah are all pretty much all that's left. So he's still going to be in a league not very deep with talent and he likely won't have to compete on a level playing field unless he makes the playoffs.
I don't know how good of a coach he is, but if he's able to keep recruiting at this level and he hires talented assistants, he should at least be making regular playoff appearances.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:53 PM ^
Oregon should out recruit him and Utah will definitely have better coaching. It will be interesting. I'm not rooting against him but not really for him either. Could he bounce to Mississippi State next year or the next if Leach's replacement flames out? Yep. Not sure that is coaching up though.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:16 PM ^
Wonder if he regrets taking the CU job (not that anyone saw Leach's tragic passing coming)? CU has much more history (although they've been bad for going on two decades), but Prime is a better fit for the SEC and SEC-like schools (FSU, the U, Clemson, etc.), and he was already coaching in Mississippi...
December 13th, 2022 at 9:24 PM ^
I think for Sanders's future the Colorado job may be the better choice than jumping into the SEC. The SEC will chew you up and spit you out if you don't win right away, and the recruiting competition would be fierce if he wasn't at one of the traditional blue blood SEC programs. I think he is better off for now in a conference like the ACC or Pac-12 where he might be able to recruit a personnel advantage quickly over most of the conference.
I think an ACC program like FSU, Georgia Tech, UNC, or Virginia Tech would have been the ideal landing spot, but there was nothing open this year for him. I don't think he could afford to wait another year with his son going into his junior season.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:07 PM ^
Two things... Do we know who is on the staff at Colorado? We can't say for sure that Utah will be better coached. It wouldn't make sense for him to go to Mississippi State. Why compete in the SEC when he can compete in the Pac 12? Is an easier road. Coach Prime will have his pick of who he wants to come there. The only reason JSU want packed with talent is because it wasn't a power 5 school. I think Colorado will compete relatively quickly.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:52 PM ^
Deion has made some decent hires already. He hired the head coach at Kent State to be his OC (I was pretty surprised he got Sean Lewis to do this), and he took Charles Kelly from Alabama to be his DC. He kept Darian Hagan on staff. He brought Tim Brewster with him to help recruit. He's trying to recruit Willie Taggart to take an assistant job for him. It's not a bad start.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:05 PM ^
I wouldn’t go that far. He will attract talent - but, the playoff - that’s a top 12 team. Will the PAC-12 place three teams in the expanded playoff? It’s not something I would bet on.
Oregon (Nike), Utah, and Washington are three clear hurdles in the PAC-12.
The SEC, B1G, and Clemson aren’t going too far away. FSU is entering the competition in the ACC. The Big 12 will offer a team - possibly two.
It will be interesting to watch. I don’t have a horse in the race.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:13 PM ^
Agreed. Starting in 2024 with USC and UCLA to the Big Ten, there is the potential to have an easy road to the playoff from the Pac-12 IF you win the conference. Sanders has the potential to outrecruit the rest of the remaining Pac-12 except for maybe Oregon.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:58 PM ^
He did raise the talent level at JSU and seems like he's already getting started on that at Colorado. But he went 27-5 overall and undefeated this year, so I think he can actually coach.
With the talent influx you mentioned, next year I could easily see Colorado leapfrog the 5 teams ahead of them in the conference, and I am very skeptical that Oregon State is a long-term thing. Even a replacement-level coach with that talent infusion could likely get to above .500 in the conference. Then it's about stealing wins against UCLA, USC, and Oregon, all of whom are better teams but have weaknesses that can lose them games. Those to me are the real tests.
Except they also play TCU for the first game of the year. So... we really will see soon enough!
December 13th, 2022 at 9:07 PM ^
Denard, Jackson State had FBS talent, playing an FCS schedule / conference. I don’t know if Jackson State even played a single FBS school while he was their head coach.
(added) - Jackson State did play at UL Monroe in 2021. ULM is an FBS school in the Sun Belt conference. Jackson State lost to ULM.
And, the 247 Team Talent is also interesting. Though the ‘21 Jackson State team had less “overall talent” than ULM - the average “rating” for Jackson State was 86 points, whereas ULM’s rating was 80.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:26 PM ^
I think we're missing the point here, him getting Colorado competitive in 2-3 years would be a coaching win. Him getting them to the upper half of the conference once USC and UCLA leave would put him on many coaching lists a step or 2 above. Lower floor and PAC12 schedule seems far more attractive than MissSt with an SEC schedule for a jumping off point. Ask Mel.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:09 PM ^
Matt, this season’s record is just a data point. The top half / six teams in the PAC-12 had records of 9-3 or better.
I’m not saying he will get there next year, or in a few years - nor, am I saying he / Colorado won’t.
It’s going to be interesting to watch, for sure.
And, as others have pointed out - coaching and scheme will definitely be a factor. Texas A&M recruited a lot of talent - and, that resulted in a 5-7 record this season. To be fair, the PAC-12 isn’t as competitive or challenging as the SEC.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:09 PM ^
I think Sanders can coach a bit; he was apparently on the short list for the TCU spot until they settled on Dykes.
But the thing is his success thus far has really been based on talent acquisition and in the HBCU that's significant. But in the Pac-12 it's going to be tough to accumulate enough talent, and have that talent gel enough, to make that leap in a year or two. Yes they'll be better than Stanford and Cal but after that who knows. Arizona St. and Arizona both have some talent, Wazzou had some injury issues but seem to have a foundation, and I'm more of a believer in Oregon St. than some because they've been slowly building to this level for some years now. UCLA honestly feels like a team that might take a step back; they were really senior-heavy and relied on the portal a fair bit to fill holes. Doesn't take a lot for those holes to burst with new players coming in.
The thing with Sanders is that when stuff goes wrong he tends to bail. He ran that shady prep school and bolted when the state started investigating it, leaving players and families in a lurch. He apparently strangled and kicked multiple business partners over disagreements. It sounds like some JSU players were find with him leaving and if so that's good, but there have been other reports that players didn't really know what was happening until they saw it on ESPN or online. He's trying to make a splash in Boulder and that's good but CU isn't a place that invests a ton in their football program (Mel Tucker said as much when he left) and even if there's renewed focus with money it takes some time for that to ramp up to the degree Sanders probably wants it to be. So is he ready to really build a program up and deal with multi-year rebuilds and struggles? Maybe, but until he shows that I think there's some real skepticism about how he's going to handle those struggles.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:25 PM ^
Those are all fair points, I guess I just don't have a ton of respect for Pac12 football outside of Utah / Oregon / Washington, and they don't even play the latter so it feels like Colorado could make some noise quickly. The LA schools are only relevant to the competition next year, so as mentioned above there is opportunity to gain traction in that league very quickly, which would make it easier to become established and stay there for a few years. But who knows, if as you say he tends to bail and Norvell doesn't pan out he could have big eyes for home sooner rather than later.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:35 PM ^
You don't have respect for Pac 12 football outside of three teams. Do you have respect for the B10 outside of 3 teams because most of the Big 10 sucks.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:41 PM ^
This year, yeah Big10 was not great so I'd agree. But there are a lot of good new coaches and we're taking away a renewed recruiting power in USC from them so we'll see.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:01 PM ^
I think he will be there at least two years if his son transfers there. I think it is more likely Deion is there in 4 years than he is not. He would have to win big for another Power 5 program to sign up for him in under 4 years, I guess unless you are MSU.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:34 PM ^
Some guys like playing for 4-8 football teams. Nothing wrong with that.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:59 PM ^
Yep, right in between 3-9 and 5-7.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:39 PM ^
That's it, we need to bring Woodson on as a coach. We can trump Colorado's 2nd best DB of all time with the best.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:05 PM ^
I love Woodson, but Deion Sanders is a different level of personality. Few players like that. It would be more the equivalent of Tom Brady taking a college football head coaching job.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:17 PM ^
Treadjack: people always talked about Tom Brady coaching and it sort of seemed crazy to me. Married to a super model and all the money in the world. Why would he coach? …but knowing what a competitor he is and that he’s divorced what else does he have to do that would feed that fire?
December 13th, 2022 at 9:30 PM ^
I'm not saying he would--people like Tom Brady and Deion Sanders almost never sign up for coaching, especially in college. The work is so much more than what someone at that level usually needs to do at that point in their life. I don't see Tom Brady walking away from his 10-year $375 million deal at FOX Sports to talk on TV. That is what makes Deion Sanders at Colorado so unique.
December 14th, 2022 at 9:34 AM ^
The hypothesis is that great players don't make great coaches. They could do great things and have a harder time relating to mere mortals struggling.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:28 PM ^
Deion is in his own league as a hype man, but I would have more faith in Woodson's coaching abilities. Similar with Brady. Brady and Woodson strike a more serious impression than Prime, whose comes across as a shameless self-promotor (and who may very well be a good coach to boot, but that remains to be seen).
December 13th, 2022 at 9:32 PM ^
very fair take. i'm sure he can coach some, but i agree with you SS33, most likely lots more sizzle than steak.
December 13th, 2022 at 8:41 PM ^
This is going to be an interesting experiment in Boulder. I expect it to be entertaining.
December 13th, 2022 at 10:14 PM ^
Make sure you have plenty of popcorn…🍿
December 13th, 2022 at 8:43 PM ^
He gone.
December 13th, 2022 at 9:28 PM ^
I came to say this exact same thing...
December 13th, 2022 at 11:40 PM ^
Then say it!!!
December 13th, 2022 at 8:58 PM ^
Yeah, I can see the appeal of Sanders and CU right now. Not much you can do about it.