Louisville men's bball national title *may be* vacated
Per the NCAA, Louisville's national title has been vacated due to the scandal surrounding the men's bball team. Dan Wetzel from Yahoo notes that this isn't a forfeit so Michigan doesn't get the national title. There's no winner.
So do we pull an Okie St football and start acting like we won a game we didn't?
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/former-louisville…
EDIT: Per a correct note below, only wins during the specified timeframe in which ineligible athlete(s) participated will be vacated. Louisville has to provide the NCAA with this info. Not sure who the atheletes are, so not sure if that will include NCAA title win.
Well, we're No. 1 among teams that didn't employ a madam as part of their support staffs.
Rioting tonight. Meet me at China Gate!!
SMU got the death penalty. But that was because CJ killed the hookers... all 5 of them... allegedly. Am I mixing that up?
If it becomes the case that there is no official champion then, I say we hang a banner anyway and then simply pretend that the officiating in that game didn't happen. I am actually almost more traumatized to this day by that as opposed to the loss itself. I mean, it was a clean block and who knew there was a Hancock Variance when it came to the number of fouls you could carry.
the dong punch on McGary that magically resulted in the guy NOT getting kicked out of the game. Dong puncher winds up with 10+ points in the game too.
"Hancock Variance"
Is that in the rule book?
Hancock's 5th foul was erroneously called on someone else. I think Hancock scored 5 or 6 more points before he got another foul and was then asked to leave the game.
My God we sure got screwed in that game. Makes me sick just thinking about all the BS that went against us.
was going to win that title no matter what UM did. Refs made sure of it.
Doctor JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWS.
You're an actual adult and you are saying this. Wowee-zowee.
you suck
I saw the game back in 2013 and we lost. We got royally fucked by the officials (shocking yes i know-almost never happens to us) but we lost. Game was played and we lost it.
But you know who else played? These guys. I watched them too and while they didnt win their last game in 92 & 93 they won a shit-ton of others and were more fun to watch than any basketball team Michigan has produced in my lifetime. You vacate the record book but at least so far, you cant vacate my memory
Agreed. Louisville was just the better team that night. At least during the second half anyway, when it mattered most.
Not to say that we couldn't have won the game, but Luke motherfucking Hancock just COULD NOT MISS the entire game. Three after three after three. Spike disappeared, McGary wasn't himself, and even though Trey went full hero ball, he just couldn't do it all by himself.
Even if the title were vacated and miraculously given to Michigan, it wouldn't feel right. It wouldn't be like Louisville won because they had a legitimate unfair advantage like PEDs. Pound for pound, they were just better that night. Or at least better when it mattered most.
To anyone who thinks Michigan will be named champion, you're wrong. That is not how vacating wins works.
Be more fatalistic about it, you fucking psychopath.
Take it easy WD.
There are this many people who want to remain bitter about a sports item? A little frightening.
Yes?
Oh it's normalized here then.
Is it as appealing as it looks? Teach me to not let go of things I had no control of four years ago!!!
You're not going to last a 2nd week around here with that type of attitude. Embrace the bitterness!
I don't like the people here. Don't like their values, their vicarious self-satisfaction or their sense of "humor." I'll confront them with how shitty their realities actually are until some geek mod has enough.
Why? Are you trying to make us better people?
'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA WORK!
If I didnt know better I'd swear you sound just like a guy who used to post quite frequently here until recently. I know this is just a wacky coincidence but he also had issues with the folks around here and he too was looking for Mod intervention.
Crazy coincidence that is.
RING.
is that the penalties affect Louisville in no way going forward. A measley scholarship lost per year for four years.
The NCAA does not give you any real reason to not cheat in any way anymore. You can do anything you want and the most you are going to lose is one scholarship per year. Woopty do! Losing that 12th man who only plays when you're up by 30 and there's 3 minutes to go is a huge blow to a program.
According to AP, updated 1140EST:
"The NCAA wants Louisville to vacate records for any games “in which student-athletes competed while ineligible from December 2010 and July 2014.”
Louisville "defeated" Michigan April 8, 2013 for the record.
Hard to see how this doesn't get vacated.
Sweet, so I went to another Michigan national championship game!!
From AP:
11:40 a.m.
The Louisville men’s basketball penalties from the NCAA include scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions, though some of these penalties were already self-imposed by the university.
The NCAA is requiring Louisville to reduce scholarships by four during its four-year probation. The school had self-imposed a reduction of two scholarships for 2016-17.
Louisville will be allowed no more than 16 official visits during the 2017-18 school year.
Prospects on unofficial visits won’t be allowed to spend the night in any campus dorms or school-owned property while Louisville’s on probation.
The NCAA wants Louisville to vacate records for any games “in which student-athletes competed while ineligible from December 2010 and July 2014.”
The NCAA says Louisville must provide a written report within 45 days detailing which games were impacted.
I think I'm actually surprisingly satsified with this. Anyone else in agreement?
And now I'm reading that Louisville is pissed and will appeal the infractions. Haaaa. What the crap? They ran a prostitution ring out of their campus for recruiting purposes. Who cares who knew what. Accept it and move on, and don't let it happen again. Man I wish the NCAA could harshen the penalties for being cry-babies, especially for something as egregious as that.
Does this mean Rick has to get his tattoo removed?
Louisville is trying to determine which games the ineligible players participated in. Do we know which games Webber played in where he was "ineligible"? If it happened after freshman year, it seems like we should still have a banner up.
I always thought it was silly to take down the banners and erase records without knowing when exactly Webber received money.