Line vs Rutgers could be historic
November 5th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^
Is this part of Revenge Tour, as we need to exact some punishment from jim delany for giving us rutgers.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:43 PM ^
Man, that picture gets me every single time.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:32 PM ^
Rutger. From here on out, they will be called Rutger.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^
Oh, that's the *spread*?!
I thought it was the over/under on Rutger's total yardage.
I'd bet it's also the highest spread on a rival game that Vegas has ever seen.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
I'll take the under
November 5th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^
I thought of a hypothetical this weekend, this seems like a good place to discuss....
If you could give MSU any number of points to start out with against OSU, but Rutgers would also get that many against us... How many points would you risk?
I think I'd go 24. Still a safe win for us, and probably an 80-85% chance MSU can pull it off with 24 free points.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^
I think MSU can win with no "free" points.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^
Can and being likely to are completely different. I think OSU is a really bad matchup for MSU. MSU stops the run, not the pass. OSU this year tries to throw the ball 100 times a game and not run. Unless they get to Haskins a bunch, I don't see this game being close.
FPI gives them a 40% shot, which seems way too high to me.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
MSU is the healthiest they’ve been all year at DB right now.
Dantonio will have them in a place to compete.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:29 PM ^
Yes, I don't know why MSU shouldn't provide OSU a serious challenge. The best outcome might involve OSU looking bad and squeaking by, leaving our game a high(er)-stakes matchup. But if MSU craters I've be very surprised.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^
Just look at the way OSU has played their last 2 games. OSU is playing like Brady Hoke is their coach. Playing at the level of their opponent. Nebraska went toe to toe with them. The outcome of MSU and Ohio is a toss up IMO.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:17 PM ^
State always plays osu tough. They’ll play cover against the pass and not let the big play happen. They contained Purdue. Probably deploy a similar strategy against osu. State will be able to stop the run without selling out to keep safeties back and in coverage. They’ll grind the game down and keep it close. MSU should run the ball, keep possession, and limit offensive opportunities for osu.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:30 PM ^
"State always plays osu tough"...until they don't. Wasn't it 48-3 last year and Mike D has never beaten them in EL. Having said that, I do think that it'll be a fairly close game, within 10-14.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
45 seems doable. I’m not sure we beat rutger by 45, but if not it’s because we don’t really care.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:03 PM ^
Interesting hypo.
But it is hard to know how that would play out. We have only seen Michigan and OSU play games that start out 0-0.
Who knows what kind of game plan JH would use if Rutgers is spotted 24 points? Throw it deep to Tarik Black 12 times? Five wide on 60% of the snaps?
Who knows what kind of game plan Meyer would use if MSU is spotted 24 points? Have Haskins throw it 73 times? Oh wait. He already does that.
OTOH, M v. NW was almost like spotting NW 17 points.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:46 PM ^
Even at this point I have a hard time trusting UM's offense to consistently perform. Im so damaged by the ups and downs of the previous couple years So I'd risk no more than 10-15.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^
Hopefully before too long everything about Rutger is history
November 5th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
Those food truck sammiches though.... Mmmmmmmmm
November 5th, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^
I'm pretty sure your youtube friends are wrong, there have been higher road spreads. Don't want to kill your thread, but yeah they are wrong.
I mean, I know it's shocking that a couple of guys on youtube could be wrong in 2018 but brace yourselves for that reality.
November 5th, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
I don’t think you need to apologize if you gave no evidence to back up your claim. (All you have to do is post one example to prove him wrong.) I trust the unnamed YouTubers over some MGoBlog poster.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Not willing to go through the entire OddsShark database team by team, but here's just one example:
Florida State was a 47 point road favorite in the year 2000, and I'm sure there are more examples if one is willing to dig.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
There is no way that is true. When Oklahoma was crushing it back in the day with the Boz, the spreads every week were 50-60 home and away (and they still covered most of the time).
November 5th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
i believe when the betting line hits 51+ its taken off the board (you cant bet it)
2012 Florida St was a 70.5 point fav vs Savannah State (after Sav St lost 84-0 to Oklahoma St)
looks like this is the largest betting line Vegas has had
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1325680-vegas-records-highest-point-spead-in-college-football-historyagain
Im still trying to find a road game at 40+ ive seen 37-38 but thats as high as ive seen
https://www.sportsbetting.ag/sportsbook
November 5th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^
Facts can be a bitch.
*Oklahoma was the road favorite in its games against Kansas State (-57) and Kansas (-54.5) in September 1987, going 1-1 ATS in those contests.
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November 5th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
Yeah now im thinking this was "just betting spread" games you can bet
51+ cant be bet
this was a betting you tube channel
i seen OK 55+ twice and G Tech 54.5
November 5th, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^
Formatting can be an even bigger bitch.
November 5th, 2018 at 3:41 PM ^
Poor Savannah State. Aren't they also the only team that has more than one rutger?
November 5th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
Whether true or not (I doubt it is) this is more of a jab at the B1G than anything.
The very worst teams in college football almost never host the very best teams because these two things are not supposed to exist in the same conference.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^
The spread for the 2007 Stanford-USC game was 41 points.
Don't believe everything you see on YouTube.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
USC was at home. This is for the team on the road. I still don't think it's true, but that game doesn't match the category.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
Sports book lists that game at 37.5 at USC
https://www.sportsbetting.ag/sportsbooksStanford/USC
November 5th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^
I got downvoted for pointing out the error 1st. You follow me with irrelevant facts and get upvoted. 2018 everybody. USC was at home....
November 5th, 2018 at 8:55 PM ^
You didn't get downvoted for pointing out the error. You for downvoted for being a dick about it and not having any facts to back up your dickish comment. And now you're getting downvoted even more for complaining about points that don't even mean anything.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^
Am I the only one who thinks Rutgers is better than they’re getting credit for??
November 5th, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^
Username checks out
November 5th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^
Thanks you for noticing, I spent a lot of time on it.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
I don’t think they are as bad as that 78-0 game. It will be closer than most think. Probably within 28 points. I bet they score more on us than psu or MSU did. I have a feeling we won’t be as pumped up as we have been and just go throw the motions. I would like to see us throw more this week though to see what we have there in total.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^
They wont score more. This offense is 128th in S&P+. They can do anything competently. 126th in the run game and 130th in the pass game. To make matters worse their defense is 114th against the run. Michigan can go through the motions and win by more than 28.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:55 PM ^
Rutgers best chance of advancing the ball 40 yards would be by punting on 1st down and hoping Michigan fumbles the reception.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
Uh huh
November 5th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
I find that really hard to believe that this is the largest Vegas spread ever. Alabama has had to have a spread bigger than this over some helpless MAC team over the last 5 years or so. Or Oklahoma under its heyday with Barry Switzer.
Either way, doesn't change the situation for Rutgers. This defense is just as good as 2016, if not better. And the offense is better. This could be a slaughter on par to the 78-0 beating Rutgers took two years ago.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
"highest road spread"
November 5th, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^
Ah. That explains it a little bit, but that's still somewhat surprising.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
According to this article, Oklahoma was a road favorite by 50+ against both Kansas State and Kansas in 1987:
https://www.covers.com/editorial/Article/c619cb1e-b51e-e711-80cb-44a8423171c1
November 5th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^
Really ? I recall Michigan being 48-53 pt favorites vs Illinois a few times in the 80s.... maybe those were home games.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^
So happy with Michigan right now. But, based on our pace of play, this is a tough number. They may very well cover, but I can see a thousand ways in which they would not even in a well played game.
November 5th, 2018 at 2:13 PM ^
Really? It's hard for me to believe that 38.5 is the highest road spread ever.
Either way, I think the spread is too high given that the offense will probably run the ball (not including Shea, for sure) and eat clock. I wouldn't be surprised if we won 28-0 or 31-0, 28-3, somewhere along those lines.