mGrowOld

November 28th, 2021 at 10:01 AM ^

Not sure which is a bigger fail.  The advanced metrics that the ESPN FPI rankings use or the OPs reading comprehension/embedding skills.

But they're close.  Definitely close.

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JonnyHintz

November 28th, 2021 at 11:21 AM ^

Not really. OSU has been dominant this year. It didn’t lead to a win this weekend, but they have a phenomenal offense and a solid defense. That’s what advanced statistics are there to show/measure. You just have to know how to read them. They’re typically very good at determining what they’re intended to determine.
 

That being said, there’s a reason we play the games. Michigan kicked their ass. That’s not going to outweigh an entire season’s worth of data in the metrics though. 

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Grampy

November 28th, 2021 at 10:05 AM ^

Fuck ESPN and their ass-kissing corrupt “journalism”. Ask Mr. Bucknut if having an artificially higher FPI ranking makes his sorry life any better. 

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Monk

November 28th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^

Those rankings are just computer generated after the weekend's games, there's no ESPN journalist that modifies it.  It says that on a neutral field OSU would be expected to beat an average opponent by 24 and UM by 20 so they're ranked higher.  The description which was written said OSU being #2 was a surprise.    

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mfan_in_ohio

November 28th, 2021 at 10:06 AM ^

Those rankings are going to be dramatically distorted by the wet turd that was the MSU defense against OSU. On point differential they were +34 over the last two weeks combined, which looks pretty good to those rankings.  

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xgojim

November 28th, 2021 at 10:08 AM ^

I have no idea what algorithm or software logic they are using, but they also have Iowa STATE (not Iowa) ranked at #9.  I am not concerned about this report.  It is obviously ridiculous and they should be embarrassed about this result!

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tragictones

November 28th, 2021 at 10:38 AM ^

And 7-5 Penn State at 14. Teams with really good defenses (ISU, PSU, etc) tend to come in unrealistically high on FPI. 

I've first noticed this about Auburn. I noticed that the last couple seasons, FPI loves Auburn. 2021 6-6, 19th fpi. 2020 6-5, 19th fpi. 2019 9-4, 10th fpi. 2018 8-5, 12th fpi.

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Monk

November 28th, 2021 at 12:52 PM ^

As I sort of alluded to in my previous post, point differential is big in this, from what I can tell.  And Iowa outside of the Maryland game, has not been impressive in this, even at 10-2.  And they got blown out relatively speaking by Purdue and Wisconsin.  Fortunate to beat Nebraska and Northwestern.  This says that ISU would beat Iowa today by 5 pts on a neutral field and UM would beat Iowa by 10.  That being said, it does look like h2h is not a big factor, if at all.  

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Wolverheel

November 28th, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^

I’m very on board with the general forum post-worthy thread standard being way lower today. I love how happy everyone is. But come on. How many times do we have to completely misunderstand and throw fits about computer based metric rankings being anti-Michigan before we realize that they are computer based metric rankings?

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MaizeGoBlue

November 28th, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^

we ALL KNOW  losses by Bama or Ohio or ND dont mean as miuch as say Michigan...we lose we plummet they lose a game and somehow its not as bad..take Bama for example.they Lose to a unranked TexasAM and NOTHING..THEIR LOSSES GET OVERLOOKED

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