I hope that he hasn't been forgiven, and it's just that they realize that their LB/DE depth sucks, and he ends up a cancer to their locker room. Keep sowing the seeds of discord in EL.
This is the guy who used the N-word in regards to a teammate who was banging his girlfriend, right?
I think having teammates who will bang your girlfriend and teammates who will use racist words will do plenty of locker room damage
“Spartans Will...Do Anything to Win?”
It's been consistently true through Dantonio's tenure there. Auston Robertson, William Gholston, Glenn Winston... the list goes on.
Not that MSU didn't also pull this kind of shady crap before Dantonio got there; it just didn't usually result in wins back then.
This weird mysticism that Dantonio is some great, morally correct catholic man is pretty ridiculous. Or, at least in relation to his pedestal above all other coaches.
I've said it before, if Harbaugh sub-tweeted and threw pot shots MSU's way like Dantonio does (Harbaugh has been more than respectful of the school and program) it would just be another "Harbaugh is the biggest ass hole in college football. Such a Michigan douche" thing MSU fans would run with.
Dantonio says something sly and then grins, everyone in EL creams their pants.
Same goes for his "moral compass" that had guys like Rucker, Winston, Bullogh, Robertson, Gholston, etc stick around. Not saying Harbaugh has been the best with player discipline (Perry), but to MSU fans, Dantonio is literally perfect.
If the MSU "moral compass" was an elevator, it would only go down.
I'm surprised, but not really surprised. Win at all costs
*Surprised, but not fully surprised. FTFY.
A young man used language he should not have in a very emotional situation. He was severely punished for it. It shouldn't ruin his life.
No, it should because he is a Spartan - MGoBoard
Bold statement to make on the blog, but I completely agree.
The team appeared to have forgiven him, so why not give the kid a chance.
What if it was your kid who made this mistake? Would you really have the same distain? I recon you wouldn't.
I would expect him to probably get kicked off that team and have to find another one to play for. It would be a life lesson in dealing with the consequences of your actions.
He effectively was kicked off the team. Had his teammates said, nope, unforgivable, go find another team, that would have been understandable. But they didn't. They gave him a second chance. It's laughable to me that a bunch of anonymous MGoBoard posters think their opinion on the matter is worth half a damn relative to the kids directly effected.
As laughable as Dantonio being seen as a tough disciplinarian? And I don’t think anyone here thinks their opinion was going to get him kicked back off the team. But it’s not some crazy belief that saying racist things in a locker room full of black athletes is a bad idea and he is probably a distraction. This doesn’t affect me personally but I can still have the opinion that this kid is a shitty human and I hope MSU wins 3 games again because they brought this dickhead back on the team
You don't get it. Those black athletes accepted him back on the team. They haven't written him off as a shitty human. Of course you have, that said, your opinion is worthless relative to theirs.
To put it another way, the kid didn't commit a crime. What happened was a team issue. The team addressed it and resolved it. Just mind your own business. It has nothing to do with you other than giving you a chance to take a shot at a rival and revel in the superiority of your own infallible judgement.
If he's not at practice you can't hit him hard enough to make him ever regret that being a go-to term.
racist comments have negative impacts on white players too, he can stay the hell away from me
We don't know if that's how it happened. If Dantonio went to the locker room and said, look, it's up to you guys, but I think he's learned his lesson and deserves another chance, there's almost no chance that anyone would vote against bringing him back.
Saying this is a team decision is a cop-out by Dantonio to deflect from his willingness to overlook character issues to try to win games.
Saw this thread earlier...did not open it...saw what he said while scrolling Twitter and came back pissed.
You guys are right though.
This is riddled with spelling errors.
Whut du ewe meen?
I would like to think I would have raised my kid to not be a racist dick.
Your children will surprise you.
"Ruining his life" and "not being allowed to play on the football team anymore" are two very different things.
Especially as he could transfer and get a 2nd chance somewhere else, but MSU made their choice let's see if it works out for them.
Could he though?
He had announced he was going to do a grad transfer last year. While it's easy to imagine coaches will take a chance on a former 4* player, maybe they decided he wasn't worth it. Taking heat from the media is one thing. Taking a chance on your team's chemistry imploding is another. There's no "Last Chance U" outside of the Juco ranks.
You mean his teammates made their choice. A distinction it seems no one thinks is noteworthy despite this being a team issue and not a criminal one.
This. His life and chance to earn his degree shouldn't be ruined, but his time on Michigan State's football team should be over. If Western or Eastern or Toledo wants to give him a second chance, good on them, but he wouldn't be back on my team.
For most people, yes, for some they may very well be the same thing. For as multi-variable and complex an issue race relations presents, it is a worthy aim to attempt to evaluate all facts. These facts will not be public, and therefore we are left to speculate.
The answer to abhorrent speech is more speech. Speech is how we formulate thoughts. When we speak, the reaction of the universe within which spoken can inform the speaker if their world choice is driving to proper aims. Intent is crucial to understanding. Further, if the intent was to be as hurtful as possible, which we can agree is detrimental, in a moment of intense battle, for which the speaker immediately recognizes as wrong, that should also be taken into consideration.
I only push back because snapping to judgement without facts is wrong. The conclusions will be wrong, applied chaotically, and will not demonstrate to young men the proper way to act within our free society.
That said, live your logos!
Did you catch a game in Milwaukee this week?
Well said - Abhorrent language is terrible and should be punished in some way, however; our new societal norm of say something terrible or do something silly while drunk and lose your job and be shamed publicly is getting old.
He sat out a year and asked to be forgiven and their coach spoke with the team and they agreed to let him back on. Good for them. There is no weakness in forgiveness.
Now off my soap box.
This topic was talked about on the Michigan Insider earlier today. Dantonio supposedly let the players vote and decide whether to take the player back. The point was made that it wouldn't take much to poison the locker room, and that it would have been better to be rid of the guy and not take the chance.
included in the freep version of the story, the actual text:
"Honestly don't know who for sure but probably (teammate's name redacted) or another s****y f*****g (N-word) with no morals," Reschke wrote in an undated text message obtained via screenshot by the Free Press.
this is not a netflix exec carelessly asking when it's ok to use the N-word. this is a dude specifically calling a black teammate (and vaguely all black people) the N-word. fuck his football career - there's no reason to let him back on the team.
And if a black man had said that?
so you're gonna be that guy, huh?
Just wanting to make sure we're going to be consistent.....that's all.
Are you asking whether a black man calling fellow black men the n word would be treated the same way as a white man calling black men the n word?
Yikes.
You can't (or maybe shouldn't) be this dumb.
"Severely punished" would be getting kicked off the team and being forced to find a new school to play football.
"Ruin his life" would be go to jail or something similar.
This was a slap on the wrist in comparison.
Former teammate Darien Harris said it best after he was kicked off their team:
Harris: “Exactly, when you can’t un-ring the bell. When that happens – it’s gonna be worse if he stayed here, trying to regain trust of teammates and things of that nature. So I think that in just a really unfortunate situation, it’s probably best that he moves on to something else. Obviously nobody at Michigan State would ever wish ill upon Jon Reschke and we hope that he’s able to find peace and find a way to come back from this situation and maybe even one day get an opportunity to play somewhere else again. This is a land of second chances and we’ve seen so many times – especially in professional sports – where guys get second chances to play somewhere else and we definitely wouldn’t want a situation where a kid doesn’t get to play the sport he loves anymore because of one awful mistake he made. But it just can’t be at Michigan State.”
I've been in my fair share of shocking and emotional situations, and I've never busted out the N word on someone.
Situations like that are like being drunk - they can prompt you to do something that you usually would be inhibited from doing, but they don't usually make you do something that you never would think of doing in the first place. If MSU's players are OK with having a racist on their team, even one who has promised not to publicly use that word in the future, that's their decision... but I don't believe for a second that he's not actually a racist and just started slinging N bombs because of the situation.
Just curious.
I’m sure the team had to vote him back on. But was it unanimous? If not, yeah, fractioned locker room for sure, I can imagine. But if it was, well then hey, none of my business if that’s what they wanted....
Apparently it was kind of like a "Survivor" type of ceremony wherein each player carried a torch and wrote Yes or No on a little scrap on paper and then Dantonio opened each and unveiled the answer. It sounded quite dramatic.
A tiki torch?
Did the basset hound get a vote?
Touche. Nice one.
All the upvotes.
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LOL SPARTY
Has he been red-locked?!?!