February 18th, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
I don't want a true freshman to start but to say McCarthy lacks "elite physical traits" seems just wrong.
Also, the assumption that UM won't get a transfer QB doesn't seem right; there will undoubtedly be guys leaving teams in the coming weeks and UM could absolutely take a run at one. Even if it's just a backup, a guy with a couple of years experience never hurts.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:16 AM ^
Going into 2018 we had: Shea, Peters, Dylan, and Milton. The QB room looked stacked for years to come. Pretty sure no one would have bet on entering spring practice 2021, Cade McNamera would be the leader going into camp.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:20 AM ^
This isn't a problem unique to Michigan. The transfer portal has made it such that highly regarded qbs don't ride the bench anymore.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^
99 QBs (who are 3 star or above) have entered the transfer portal. 45 of those 99 still have yet to find a team to transfer to.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:20 AM ^
Harbaugh special
February 18th, 2021 at 11:18 AM ^
Guh, makes the McCaffery transfer even harder to take now to be honest. Also, the timing just seems odd, Spring practice starts Monday.
I genuinely liked Milton while recognizing he was still understandably raw; would simultaneously say that the offense flowed better w/ McNamara under center nearly immediately. Perhaps the writing was already on the wall that this was going to be a race between McNamara and McCarthy for the fall?
February 18th, 2021 at 11:18 AM ^
Dude got his degree from Michigan as a one time starting QB for the maize and blue, then proceeded to get benched, and now he is transferring to continue his pursuit of playing QB somewhere else.
I say...good for him!
February 18th, 2021 at 11:19 AM ^
Honestly not going to miss him.
Can’t throw a deep ball to save his life. Everything low and flat.
Lacking any touch, he can’t throw a short ball either.
And we lost McCaffrey for that?
I’ll go as far as saying he’ll never be drafted.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:20 AM ^
Let's keep this civil. I do not want to see grown men saying negative things about a teenager.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^
He's 21 in 2 weeks
February 18th, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^
It’s a college sports forum. If all comments are required to be positive, it becomes a boring cheering section. Also, these teenagers are legal adults.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:42 AM ^
I say we keep this barbaric.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:47 AM ^
Why do you insist on posting misinformation in every one of your comments?
February 18th, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^
Congrats Joe, best of luck to you.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^
Regardless of what you think of Milton's chances on improving as a Qb next year this still sucks for QB depth. Depth is becoming a concern at a couple spots now.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^
Good for Milton that he graduated so fast and thinks this is the best decision for him.
For the team on the other hand, the QB depth is... uh... well... it's pretty shitty now let's be honest.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:24 AM ^
Rats.
good luck young man!
February 18th, 2021 at 11:24 AM ^
Tip of the hat to Sunshine Sam, the coaches and other program mouthpieces on the hype job last summer. A+
February 18th, 2021 at 11:39 AM ^
Webb is and always will be a Michigan slappy. Same take every year for 14 years now.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^
Brian Griese becoming one of my favorite posters. Very matter-of-fact realist. People these days don’t want the truth, they want sugar-coated ego strokes, but I like hearing it.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
I have no idea why people listen to offseason hype. It's nonsense writing by sports reporters eager to get your eyeballs and clicks in the brief windows you are paying attention. The coaches perpetuate this to get those reporters off their back, plus they know some of their guys are motivated by those press clippings.
I don't know why people buy it every year, you would think after about age 20 or so you'd stop paying attention.
I also pay no attention to the incoming freshmen you all think are going to start the minute they step on campus. More than likely if any new players are going to be in the lineup it's going to be last years freshmen you all were hyped about, but have now forgotten.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:25 AM ^
I wonder if we look at any transfer options. Tyler Shough just left Oregon.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:37 AM ^
Why? I saw an obscure NFL draft blogger giving him some first round hype for next year.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^
wasn't he a former commit or almost-commit?
February 18th, 2021 at 11:26 AM ^
Welp, my expectation for 6 wins just took at hit.
One thing is clear, no one of the staff knows how to handle a fluid QB situation. Another year, another fiasco.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:36 AM ^
So you thought Milton was the best option at QB?
February 18th, 2021 at 11:50 AM ^
Milton transferring helps us if we can grab a grad transfer to provide depth. It brings clarity to the hierarchy to the QB room and frees up reps for JJ to stand out.
It hurts us if we can't secure a grad transfer as our depth is a serious issue. McNamara has already gotten knocked out of a game. JJ will likely need some time to acclimate to the speed of the college game and his body might not be ready to take a beating either. Then we would be looking at Villari, which would be pretty scary.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^
No. I think what we now have is no depth and I know that we can't keep QB's healthy. I also think Milton would have been a dynamic option in certain situations...this is out the friggen window now. I admit I was not in the camp of giving up on Milton and am growing very weary of hoping for transfers year in and year out.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^
He was likely 3rd string.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:26 AM ^
Not surprising. Wish him luck; hopefully he'll find a place, stay healthy, and get a chance to compete.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^
Ugh.
Well, not a huge shock. Milton appeared to get passed by Cade in the Rutgers game, and a blue-chip prospect is coming in. Frankly, upper-level college football teams just do not keep 3 starting-level QBs on their roster, even if they want to. Guys will transfer.
So it's Milton, who had a good chance of being third string next year. I hope he finds a good spot to play; I would guess a G5 role or something, but who knows.
I've never been troubled by the fact that Michigan has had QBs transfer. Harbaugh brings in a QB every year, he does this expecting guys to transfer.
The issue with Michigan's QB room is that the guys that get the starting job aren't very good.
Let's cross our fingers and hope things are different this year.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:30 AM ^
Next man up...
February 18th, 2021 at 11:30 AM ^
Good! Let him tweet out his attitude somewhere else!!! Come on JJ McCarthy!!
February 18th, 2021 at 11:33 AM ^
The writing on the wall was clear. Heard he was always a good teammate, dedicated worker, and to graduate in 3 is impressive. He should be able to land maybe at a smaller school and bolster their room or compete to start.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:34 AM ^
Thoughts.
- As of now, EVERY QB Harbaugh has signed to a scholarship has transferred out of the program before completing eligibility except Cade McNamara (just completed his second year), Zach Gentry (who converted to TE), and Dan Villari (who, God willing, WILL convert to TE).
- We need a grad transfer QB more than ANYTHING. Just a dude who already was a backup and won't mind being a backup again. Otherwise, we'll have 2.5 scholarship QBs on the roster.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:39 AM ^
So you think a guy, who is currently a backup, and is in the portal, or will be in the portal, won't mind being a backup? OK, explain that one to me.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
Ohio State got a transfer QB a couple years ago from a Kentucky QB who had no realistic shot of being the starter absent injuries. Sometimes, dudes accept the fact that they aren't bound for the NFL and just want to play on a good team or for a good school.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
You see a lot of guys who up-transfer from programs who are willing to compete for a spot but don't necessarily believe they have to be starters. And realistically, any guy who comes to UM knows he's competing against a true freshman and a guy with limited playing time experience; even if you're the "backup" its not like you're glued to the bench and won't likely see game time.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
Cade will transfer in 6 mos.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^
Sure glad Harbaugh used him to run off Dylan. Priceless.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^
If McCaffrey was seriously driven away because he believed couldn't beat 2020 Joe Milton (which I don't believe, but accepting the premise of your complaint), I wouldn't particularly blame the coaches on that one.
February 18th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^
Based on discussion it sounds like Milton won the job in the off season before the pads were put on. If true that seems narrow minded and is on Harbaugh.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:37 AM ^
We'll always have the Minnesota game. Good luck to Milton. Please let us have a legit starter by September.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:38 AM ^
I'm going to set my downvote o/u at 15.5
Stats were brought down by a read options on first and second downs, a sieve of a line, and Erick All. He made some impressive throws and had an underrated pocked presence. Check the UFR's.
I absolutely cannot wait for him to set the world on fire. He will be a 1-3 round draft pick with a line and receiver group with more than 2 years of combined starts. I'm excited to see his growth and development. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a Joe Burrow or Cam Newton arc
February 18th, 2021 at 11:42 AM ^
I can't tell if this is serious or not. Tell me you are joking. Kid has no touch, kid can't get off of his first read, and he isn't very mobile, despite what everyone wants us to believe, he isn't a good runner.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^
I'm more than happy to make a friendly wager.
1) He gets drafted higher than McNamera
2) He gets drafted higher than Throw-DMC
Last time I talked like this was the summer after Tate and Denard's freshman year. I talked about a convo I had that summer and made a prediction that Denard would start over Tate. I think I made it on here and either scout or rivals. Everyone mocked me and gave me the my sisters, husbands, cousins, mailman's.... said'. Two moderators were rough.
Of course I went back and referenced in the fall, the one moderator was like, 'you were right.' the other removed the posts.
Obviously we're 10 years removed, but a broke clock is right twice a decade.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:29 PM ^
I would be absolutely stunned if Joe Milton gets drafted into the NFL
February 18th, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^
Want to put 5 shots of Malort on it?
February 18th, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^
Is that how you watched Milton play?
Could be meaningful.